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i do not want to have guilty thoughts anymore.

I am tired and i am mentally ill and I have a depression and I cant follow Jesus.

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

I DO NOT WANT TO SEPND MY LIFE FOLLOWING JESUS AND FEELING GUILTY AND PRESSURE AND THEN, FIND OUT THAT MAYBE MUSLIMS, OR HINDU PEOPLE WERE RIGHT.

I AM ILL AND I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE. I WANT TO FEEL HAPPY AGAIN AND FREE. IF I NEED TO STOP BELIEVING OR THINKING ABOUT GOD FOR SOME TIME THEN, I BETTER DO IT IN ORDER FOR THE SAKE OF MY HEALTH.

cant i have some rest?

I AM ILL!

should i now feel guilty for saying this? should i feel guilty for expressing my feelings? should i feel guilty for having mental illness? should i feel guilty that many religions exist and that I am confused?

and if I make a wrong choice with religion, then do I deserve hell?

so, I live in a corrupted world that suffering and evil exist. I have a depression and many doubts about life. many doubts about religion. Maybe all religion are manmade and false. even Jesus. maybe not.

We cant be sure for anything. so, do I deserve hell if logic and knowledge leads me not to believe to Jesus? Should I use the fear of hell to persuade myself and be brainwashed to believe in Jesus?

I just, cant understand why so many people believe in Jesus. Because the Bible says so? Why you follow the Bible but reject the Qur'An and not the other way round?
 

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I just, cant understand why so many people believe in Jesus. Because the Bible says so? Why you follow the Bible but reject the Qur'An and not the other way round?

Here's a great sermon about this subject. It answers the question "Why exactly do Christians believe the Bible?"

 
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i do not want to have guilty thoughts anymore.

I am tired and i am mentally ill and I have a depression and I cant follow Jesus.

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

I DO NOT WANT TO SEPND MY LIFE FOLLOWING JESUS AND FEELING GUILTY AND PRESSURE AND THEN, FIND OUT THAT MAYBE MUSLIMS, OR HINDU PEOPLE WERE RIGHT.

I AM ILL AND I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE. I WANT TO FEEL HAPPY AGAIN AND FREE. IF I NEED TO STOP BELIEVING OR THINKING ABOUT GOD FOR SOME TIME THEN, I BETTER DO IT IN ORDER FOR THE SAKE OF MY HEALTH.

cant i have some rest?

I AM ILL!

should i now feel guilty for saying this? should i feel guilty for expressing my feelings? should i feel guilty for having mental illness? should i feel guilty that many religions exist and that I am confused?

and if I make a wrong choice with religion, then do I deserve hell?

so, I live in a corrupted world that suffering and evil exist. I have a depression and many doubts about life. many doubts about religion. Maybe all religion are manmade and false. even Jesus. maybe not.

We cant be sure for anything. so, do I deserve hell if logic and knowledge leads me not to believe to Jesus? Should I use the fear of hell to persuade myself and be brainwashed to believe in Jesus?

I just, cant understand why so many people believe in Jesus. Because the Bible says so? Why you follow the Bible but reject the Qur'An and not the other way round?
It's really simple. The Bible is the truth. Jesus is the Saviour. You can be sure. No other religion offers you salvation. All religion does is require you to follow a set of rules. Jesus promises you eternal life. You do not have to be perfect. God loves you as you are. If you will simply entrust yourself to His care, He will lead you and guide you out of the darkness and into the light.
 
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i do not want to have guilty thoughts anymore.

I am tired and i am mentally ill and I have a depression and I cant follow Jesus.

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

I DO NOT WANT TO SEPND MY LIFE FOLLOWING JESUS AND FEELING GUILTY AND PRESSURE AND THEN, FIND OUT THAT MAYBE MUSLIMS, OR HINDU PEOPLE WERE RIGHT.

I AM ILL AND I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE. I WANT TO FEEL HAPPY AGAIN AND FREE. IF I NEED TO STOP BELIEVING OR THINKING ABOUT GOD FOR SOME TIME THEN, I BETTER DO IT IN ORDER FOR THE SAKE OF MY HEALTH.

cant i have some rest?

I AM ILL!

should i now feel guilty for saying this? should i feel guilty for expressing my feelings? should i feel guilty for having mental illness? should i feel guilty that many religions exist and that I am confused?

and if I make a wrong choice with religion, then do I deserve hell?

so, I live in a corrupted world that suffering and evil exist. I have a depression and many doubts about life. many doubts about religion. Maybe all religion are manmade and false. even Jesus. maybe not.

We cant be sure for anything. so, do I deserve hell if logic and knowledge leads me not to believe to Jesus? Should I use the fear of hell to persuade myself and be brainwashed to believe in Jesus?

I just, cant understand why so many people believe in Jesus. Because the Bible says so? Why you follow the Bible but reject the Qur'An and not the other way round?
Quit trying so hard. You do not have to chase God or live up to some standards in order to deserve the love of God. Just accept that God loves you and Jesus died to set you free from sin and death. Let the Holy Spirit work within you, stop trying to save yourself. Relax and let God, trust God, believe that God loves you and will watch over you.
 
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It's really simple. The Bible is the truth. Jesus is the Saviour. You can be sure. No other religion offers you salvation. All religion does is require you to follow a set of rules. Jesus promises you eternal life. You do not have to be perfect. God loves you as you are. If you will simply entrust yourself to His care, He will lead you and guide you out of the darkness and into the light.
how you know that Bible is right?
 
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how you know that Bible is right?

If you’re truly hurting I’d just say be still, be still and just breath, stop letting thoughts run away in your mind and upset you. That’s not from God, deny those thoughts and feelings if they’re harming you.

I picked Jesus and the Bible over Muhammad and the Quran because Jesus was the first and He rejects no scripture.

Muhammad was later and his Muslim people attack the Bible. If I believe in Islam I must also believe God allows his word to be corrupted.

I don’t believe that, God loves truth and nobody can corrupt His word.

Anyhow, my most important point is to be still and stop overthinking. It’s good to think, it’s bad to overthink.
 
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how you know that Bible is right?

The Bible came before the Qur'an, so the judge of whether or not the Qur'an is true, is the Bible itself.

Since they disagree on key points, we know that Islam is a false religion, and Mohammed a false prophet which we are warned of in the Bible.
 
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then, why people are Muslims? Dont they know that its a false religion?

All of my Muslim friends only say they are Muslim because they’re afraid their family will disown them. I’m sure that’s true for many religious people.

Still, you have to stop feeling guilty. Christianity isn’t about guilt. Deny those thoughts, don’t actively deny them with other thoughts inside your head, don’t have a rap battle :p just know the thought is there, and let it go.
 
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I am tired and i am mentally ill and I have a depression and I cant follow Jesus.

The 1 thing that makes Christianity different from any other religion or faith in earth is that we don't work our way into a good afterlife - God came down from heaven, taking the form of man, and did the work we were unable to do.

Christ is Savior... we aren't left here saving ourselves. He did all the work... the only thing required of us is to trust in His work.

God isn't going to judge you wrongly. He knows everything about you, and He knows your sick and have limitations others don't have... and that's okay.

All God requires is that your trusting Him.... Jesus said my yoke is easy and my burden light.

That's the yoke and the burden... trust him to save you. Trust that no amount of work you do can save - only His.

And then pray... pour out your feelings, your fears, your joys, your confusion at His feet... and live.

Live your life, be happy, don't fear. "Fear not and know I am Lord" - says our Lord God (Psalms 46:10, Isaiah 41:10). Live... live and be happy, for Jesus is our Savior.
 
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then, why people are Muslims? Dont they know that its a false religion?

No, they don't know. Most have never even seen a Bible, nor have they ever heard the words of salvation.

Proselytizing is illegal in most Muslim majority nations, and what's not illegal individual families prevent.

They are in a faith that doesn't allow for choices...and are covered by a strong delusion.
 
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Jesus told us that the Christian life would not be a bowl full of soft, delicious caramel chocolates or a bed of roses or smooth sailing. He told us that if we want to be a follower of His we had to deny our selfish desires and take up a cross of suffering. He told us that we would have those who hate us. He told us to keep our eyes upon Him, NOT the storm.
 
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how you know that Bible is right?
How do you know it is not?

I was born again 48 years ago. I was not raised a Christian, although I believed that God existed. I'd never read the Bible. All I knew was some Sunday School stories. I know now that when I was born again, I was made to be new person. I knew that I was different, but I did not know why. Being born again means that you have a new inner man called the spirit. It is not God's spirit. This new spirit has spiritual vision. I knew almost immediately that the Bible was God's word. I'd like to say that I understood everything straight away, but that's not true.I had many doubts, much confusion and not a whole lot of trust in God. It took me many years to discover that I could trust God's word even when I did not understand it. There is a great deal that I still do not understand, but I do know that God is faithful to His promises.

The key to knowing God is simplicity. God says it. We accept it. And that settles it. When we are confused, we can ask God to make things clear to us. He will. He has for me. I was a mess when Jesus saved me. A drunk, suicidal, utterly depressed but refusing to accept that I had a problem. If not for Jesus, I would not be here. I doubt that I would have seen my 21st birthday. What God has done for me He can do for anyone. Including you.
 
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how you know that Bible is right?

It thought God was a judge far away high there, that i needed to follow rules to be a christian and that it was boring, and i didn't even thought that he could interact with people close by.

But God showed himself to me through his Holy spirit and after that i had proof and 'revelation' that God and bible was true, and that he could get close to people i am grateful God 'catched me' like that, and i could never deny him.
God can give us his spirit and makes us new, other religions don't have any equivalent to this, there are not other Gods.
Following Jesus you are safe, and you can have the best friend/protector ever.

Also you should contact a pastor or something, that can teach you about the gospel and maybe help you too with the ocd, i had intrusive thought and obsesions, but i have no more those intrusive thoughts after delverance.
 
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i do not want to have guilty thoughts anymore.

I am tired and i am mentally ill and I have a depression and I cant follow Jesus.

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

I DO NOT WANT TO SEPND MY LIFE FOLLOWING JESUS AND FEELING GUILTY AND PRESSURE AND THEN, FIND OUT THAT MAYBE MUSLIMS, OR HINDU PEOPLE WERE RIGHT.

I AM ILL AND I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE. I WANT TO FEEL HAPPY AGAIN AND FREE. IF I NEED TO STOP BELIEVING OR THINKING ABOUT GOD FOR SOME TIME THEN, I BETTER DO IT IN ORDER FOR THE SAKE OF MY HEALTH.

cant i have some rest?

I AM ILL!

should i now feel guilty for saying this? should i feel guilty for expressing my feelings? should i feel guilty for having mental illness? should i feel guilty that many religions exist and that I am confused?

and if I make a wrong choice with religion, then do I deserve hell?

so, I live in a corrupted world that suffering and evil exist. I have a depression and many doubts about life. many doubts about religion. Maybe all religion are manmade and false. even Jesus. maybe not.

We cant be sure for anything. so, do I deserve hell if logic and knowledge leads me not to believe to Jesus? Should I use the fear of hell to persuade myself and be brainwashed to believe in Jesus?

I just, cant understand why so many people believe in Jesus. Because the Bible says so? Why you follow the Bible but reject the Qur'An and not the other way round?

Jesus stated these words:

Matthew 11:28-30 "Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."

This is completely true. If you are finding a relationship with Jesus to be a burden or in any way stressful,then you are most likely either living in consistent unrepentant deep sin or are trying to conform to a concept of Jesus as opposed to actual Jesus. If you are working to somehow find His favor, then you might as well be following another religion. He never asked that from you.
 
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i do not want to have guilty thoughts anymore.

I am tired and i am mentally ill and I have a depression and I cant follow Jesus.

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

I DO NOT WANT TO SEPND MY LIFE FOLLOWING JESUS AND FEELING GUILTY AND PRESSURE AND THEN, FIND OUT THAT MAYBE MUSLIMS, OR HINDU PEOPLE WERE RIGHT.

I AM ILL AND I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE. I WANT TO FEEL HAPPY AGAIN AND FREE. IF I NEED TO STOP BELIEVING OR THINKING ABOUT GOD FOR SOME TIME THEN, I BETTER DO IT IN ORDER FOR THE SAKE OF MY HEALTH.

cant i have some rest?

I AM ILL!

should i now feel guilty for saying this? should i feel guilty for expressing my feelings? should i feel guilty for having mental illness? should i feel guilty that many religions exist and that I am confused?

and if I make a wrong choice with religion, then do I deserve hell?

so, I live in a corrupted world that suffering and evil exist. I have a depression and many doubts about life. many doubts about religion. Maybe all religion are manmade and false. even Jesus. maybe not.

We cant be sure for anything. so, do I deserve hell if logic and knowledge leads me not to believe to Jesus? Should I use the fear of hell to persuade myself and be brainwashed to believe in Jesus?

I just, cant understand why so many people believe in Jesus. Because the Bible says so? Why you follow the Bible but reject the Qur'An and not the other way round?

Because bible unlike all other religions differ in 2 things.
1) It has prophecy , some given exactly X amount of days untill they will be fulfilled , some giving exactly year they would be fullfilled and they were with 100% accuracy , Jesus fulfilled them giving us proof that God exist because only God can know the end from beginning.

2) Unlike all other religions where u have to do something to please some god , Christianity is different in way that God died himself for you and is giving you free eternal life as gift , this is the only religion that God wants to help you instead of you trying to please God in some way.

And on top of that , you don't have to do anything after that to keep it , being Jesus's disciple is hard work but that is to obtain rewards for afterlife , everybody who believes gets basic free reward which is eternal life , you don't have to follow him if you don't want to.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 , Ephesians 2:8-9 , Ephesians 1:13-14 , 1 Peter 1:18-19

You can check the list of prophecy here AccordingtotheScriptures.org :: 356 Prophecies Fulfilled in Jesus Christ

And the prophecy didn't stop at Jesus's death , there are many fullfilled last 70 years since Jews got back to their land
 
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Because bible unlike all other religions differ in 2 things.
1) It has prophecy , some given exactly X amount of days untill they will be fulfilled , some giving exactly year they would be fullfilled and they were with 100% accuracy , Jesus fulfilled them giving us proof that God exist because only God can know the end from beginning.

2) Unlike all other religions where u have to do something to please some god , Christianity is different in way that God died himself for you and is giving you free eternal life as gift , this is the only religion that God wants to help you instead of you trying to please God in some way.

And on top of that , you don't have to do anything after that to keep it , being Jesus's disciple is hard work but that is to obtain rewards for afterlife , everybody who believes gets basic free reward which is eternal life , you don't have to follow him if you don't want to.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 , Ephesians 2:8-9 , Ephesians 1:13-14 , 1 Peter 1:18-19

You can check the list of prophecy here AccordingtotheScriptures.org :: 356 Prophecies Fulfilled in Jesus Christ

And the prophecy didn't stop at Jesus's death , there are many fullfilled last 70 years since Jews got back to their land


that does not prove anything.

1) Do you try to prove that bible is true by using evidence that prophecies of the bible were fullfilled? is there any other text besides bible that proves the fullfilment of those prophecies? if no, then you cant prove that the prophecies were fulfilled because the bible says so.

2) Just because it is free gift that does not mean that it is real.
 
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ant i have some rest?

I AM ILL!

should i now feel guilty for saying this? should i feel guilty for expressing my feelings? should i feel guilty for having mental illness? should i feel guilty that many religions exist and that I am confused?

and if I make a wrong choice with religion, then do I deserve hell?

so, I live in a corrupted world that suffering and evil exist. I have a depression and many doubts about life. many doubts about religion. Maybe all religion are manmade and false. even Jesus. maybe not.

We cant be sure for anything. so, do I deserve hell if logic and knowledge leads me not to believe to Jesus? Should I use the fear of hell to persuade myself and be brainwashed to believe in Jesus?

I just, cant understand why so many people believe in Jesus. Because the Bible says so? Why you follow the Bible but reject the Qur'An and not the other way round?

People don't just believe because "the Bible says so". People also believe because they have experienced Him in their lives.

Christians are called to be "martyrs". That term before it became to describe someone who suffers for Christ and the Gospel means "witness". The apostles, early Christians etc. were willing to suffer for the things that they knew were the truth. They had known Christ, they had seen the risen Christ etc.

I pray that you likewise can experience Christ and the Peace of God in you life, so that you will have more than head knowledge but actual faith in Christ.
 
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