The Tree Of Life Is By The Will Of The Father

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Matthew 7:15. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


The ungodly works of the flesh are tools of Satan, but he is a master of deception.
The Holy Spirit gives discernment, because a man of lawlessness can appear a godly man.
The flesh is not so obvious as to always be a man of hate.
Beware of teaching from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
If you are teaching Holy Spirit teaching, your words will be a tree of Life.


Proverbs 11:30. The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life;
and he that winneth souls is wise.

Yes, all have a sinful nature in Adam. That does not mean that people are incapable
of doing good, they are just incapable of doing God. See that?
Good/Evil- Adam.
God/Not God-Christ.
Many people do good without doing the will of God, which is why Jesus will
tell them, "I never knew you".


The Tree of Life is By The Will Of The Father
 
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Revelation 2:7. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.

Everything the Son possesses was given to Him by The Father.

John 6:65. And He said, Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.

Walk As He Walked

John 5:30. I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because
I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.
 
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Matthew 7:15. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


The ungodly works of the flesh are tools of Satan, but he is a master of deception.
The Holy Spirit gives discernment, because a man of lawlessness can appear a godly man.
The flesh is not so obvious as to always be a man of hate.
Beware of teaching from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
If you are teaching Holy Spirit teaching, your words will be a tree of Life.


Proverbs 11:30. The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life;
and he that winneth souls is wise.

Yes, all have a sinful nature in Adam. That does not mean that people are incapable
of doing good, they are just incapable of doing God. See that?
Good/Evil- Adam.
God/Not God-Christ.
Many people do good without doing the will of God, which is why Jesus will
tell them, "I never knew you".


The Tree of Life is By The Will Of The Father

Jesus told them He never knew them because they were workers of iniquity. Notice He continues the message in verses 24-27.


“"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits. "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell-and great was its fall."”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:15-27‬ ‭NASB
 
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Jesus told them He never knew them because they were workers of iniquity. Notice He continues the message in verses 24-27.


“"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits. "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell-and great was its fall."”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:15-27‬ ‭NASB
False prophet=worker of iniquity?
The topic is they must talk a pretty 'good' message to be deceptive.
Contrasting
Tree of Life and wisdom from above
Tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Wisdom from the Tree of Life, to discern God's Will from simply good.
I should point out that I added to the thread in post #2.
 
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False prophet=worker of iniquity?
The topic is they must talk a pretty 'good' message to be deceptive.
Contrasting
Tree of Life and wisdom from above
Tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Wisdom from the Tree of Life, to discern God's Will from simply good.
I should point out that I added to the thread in post #2.

I don’t believe the false prophecies are what Jesus was talking about when He said you who do iniquity. He said this is how we will know that they are false prophets by their actions. Then He went on to say that those who hear His words and act on them are the wise man who built his house on the solid foundation. I believe the moral of the message is that we can know who is a false teacher by taking notice as to whether or not the teacher is actually following Christ’s words.
 
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I don’t believe the false prophecies are what Jesus was talking about when He said you who do iniquity.
He did not. He said that they did not do the Will of His Father.
The ungodly works of the flesh are tools of Satan, but he is a master of deception.
The Holy Spirit gives discernment, because a man of lawlessness can appear a godly man.
The flesh is not so obvious as to always be a man of hate.
He said this is how we will know that they are false prophets by their actions.
I agree that a man of God must live a life that reflects Christ. You may have limited access to
the background of a speaker, but you have the scriptures, and discernment from the Holy Spirit
to know that the doctrine is of God.
John 7:17. If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine,
whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own
Yes, all have a sinful nature in Adam. That does not mean that people are incapable
of doing good, they are just incapable of doing God. See that?
Good/Evil- Adam.
God/Not God-Christ.
The Tree of Life is By The Will Of The Father
Revelation 2:7. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.

Everything the Son possesses was given to Him by The Father.

John 6:65. And He said, Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.

Walk As He Walked

John 5:30. I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because
I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.
 
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He did not. He said that they did not do the Will of His Father.


I agree that a man of God must live a life that reflects Christ. You may have limited access to
the background of a speaker, but you have the scriptures, and discernment from the Holy Spirit
to know that the doctrine is of God.
John 7:17. If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine,
whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own

I also agree that man is capable of doing both good and evil before coming to Christ. I like how Iranaeus addresses this. I believe he has a very good perspective on it.

1. Man has received the knowledge of good and evil. It is good to obey God, and to believe in Him, and to keep His commandment, and this is the life of man; as not to obey God is evil, and this is his death. Since God, therefore, gave [to man] such mental power (magnanimitatem) man knew both the good of obedience and the evil of disobedience, that the eye of the mind, receiving experience of both, may with judgment make choice of the better things; and that he may never become indolent or neglectful of God's command; and learning by experience that it is an evil thing which deprives him of life, that is, disobedience to God, may never attempt it at all, but that, knowing that what preserves his life, namely, obedience to God, is good, he may diligently keep it with all earnestness. Wherefore he has also had a twofold experience, possessing knowledge of both kinds, that with discipline he may make choice of the better things. But how, if he had no knowledge of the contrary, could he have had instruction in that which is good? For there is thus a surer and an undoubted comprehension of matters submitted to us than the mere surmise arising from an opinion regarding them. For just as the tongue receives experience of sweet and bitter by means of tasting, and the eye discriminates between black and white by means of vision, and the ear recognises the distinctions of sounds by hearing; so also does the mind, receiving through the experience of both the knowledgeof what is good, become more tenacious of its preservation, by acting in obedience to God: in the first place, casting away, by means of repentance, disobedience, as being something disagreeable and nauseous; and afterwards coming to understand what it really is, that it is contrary to goodness and sweetness, so that the mind may never even attempt to taste disobedience to God. But if any one do shun the knowledge of both these kinds of things, and the twofold perception of knowledge, he unawares divests himself of the character of a human being.


2. How, then, shall he be a God, who has not as yet been made a man? Or how can he be perfect who was but lately created? How, again, can he be immortal, who in his mortal nature did not obey his Maker? For it must be that you, at the outset, should hold the rank of a man, and then afterwards partake of the glory of God. For you did not make God, but God you. If, then, you are God's workmanship, await the hand of your Maker which creates everything in due time; in due time as far as you are concerned, whose creation is being carried out. Offer to Him your heart in a soft and tractable state, and preserve the form in which the Creator has fashioned you, having moisture in yourself, lest, by becoming hardened, you lose the impressions of His fingers. But by preserving the framework you shall ascend to that which is perfect, for the moist clay which is in you is hidden [there] by the workmanship of God. His hand fashioned your substance; He will cover you over [too] within and without with pure gold and silver, and He will adorn you to such a degree, that even the King Himself shall have pleasure in your beauty. But if you, being obstinately hardened, reject the operation of His skill, and show yourself ungrateful towards Him, because you were created a [mere] man, by becoming thus ungrateful to God, you have at once lost both His workmanship and life. For creation is an attribute of the goodness of God but to be created is that of human nature. If then, you shall deliver up to Him what is yours, that is, faith towards Him and subjection, you shall receive His handiwork, and shall be a perfect work of God.


3. If, however, you will not believe in Him, and will flee from His hands, the cause of imperfection shall be in you who did not obey, but not in Him who called [you]. For He commissioned [messengers] to call people to the marriage, but they who did not obey Him deprived themselves of the royal supper. Matthew 22:3, etc. The skill of God, therefore, is not defective, for He has power of the stones to raise up children to Abraham; Matthew 3:9but the man who does not obtain it is the causeto himself of his own imperfection. Nor, [in like manner], does the light fail because of those who have blinded themselves; but while it remains the same as ever, those who are [thus] blinded are involved in darkness through their own fault. The light does never enslave any one by necessity; nor, again, does God exercise compulsion upon any one unwilling to accept the exercise of His skill. Those persons, therefore, who have apostatized from the light given by the Father, and transgressed the law of liberty, have done so through their own fault, since they have been created free agents, and possessed of power over themselves.


4. But God, foreknowing all things, prepared fit habitations for both, kindly conferring that light which they desire on those who seek after the light of incorruption, and resort to it; but for the despisers and mockers who avoid and turn themselves away from this light, and who do, as it were, blind themselves, He has prepared darkness suitable to personswho oppose the light, and He has inflicted an appropriate punishment upon those who try to avoid being subject to Him. Submission to God is eternal rest, so that they who shun the light have a place worthy of their flight; and those who fly from eternal rest, have a habitation in accordance with their fleeing. Now, since all good things are with God, they who by their own determination fly from God, do defraud themselves of all good things; and having been [thus] defrauded of all good things with respect to God, they shall consequently fall under the just judgment of God. For those persons who shun rest shall justly incur punishment, and those who avoid the light shall justly dwell in darkness. For as in the case of this temporal light, those who shun it do deliver themselves over to darkness, so that they do themselves become the cause to themselves that they are destitute of light, and do inhabit darkness; and, as I have already observed, the light is not the cause of such an [unhappy] condition of existence to them; so those who fly from the eternal light of God, which contains in itself all good things, are themselves the cause to themselves of their inhabiting eternal darkness, destitute of all goodthings, having become to themselves the cause of [their consignment to] an abode of that nature.

St Iranaeus 170AD Adversus Haereses Book 4 Chapter 39

The only problem is that man’s good deeds are still stained by his sin before he has received Christ’s atonement which is why they are filthy rags in The Father’s sight. Once we have received Christ’s atonement and are cleansed of our sins our good works are pleasing to God.
 
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