How the red Dragon's body developed in the last 2000 years

Oseas · Nov 9, 2020

You-we-know that the old Serpent, the Devil, and Satan, is only one, not three.

You-we- know that Revelation was written around year 95AD or 100AD, in that time Satan had not the 7 heads yet, neither the 10 horns, nor his TAIL, evidently. IOW, in that time Satan had not a body as he has it today, without the 10 horns for now.

You-we- need to keep in mind that Satan's tail and the seven heads started to develop or take shape at the time in which the book of Revelation was written, around 100AD; as time went on, Satan's body was growing more and more, and over time, mainly his seven heads and his terrible tail. The 10 horns stayed in stand by because Israel was banned from their land during 1878 years, i.e. from year 70 to 1948, this terrible event prevented the manifestation of the false messiah before the time of Revelation, understand? And the body of Satan remains with his 7 heads and with the tail, but still without the 10 horns, because the 10 horns are linked/united to the false messiah who will manifest yet in this current time, he is from the tribe of Dan-Genesis 49:v.16-17.

Thus, only and only now, in the current time, the Satan's body will be complete by entire, or as a whole, through the manifestation of the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah like a lamb(John 5:v.43 and Rev.13:v.11), who speaks as a Dragon (the red Dragon), so a false lamb, AN IMPOSTOR,yeah,AN IMPOSTER(John 5:v.43), and 2Thessalonians chapter 2 will fulfil LITERALLY.
From today 09 11,2020, until the Jewish false messiah be manifested, yeah, until there the body of Satan remains only and only with his 7 heads and his tail, but still without the 10 horns.

Question:
When will Satan's body be complete as a whole, that is, with its 7 heads, 10 horns, and a tail?

The answer:
The Satan's body will be complete after two great events:

1 - Only and only after the satanic and abominable false messiah be manifested and he be enthroned in Jerusalem and be acclaimed by the Jews as God, and opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2 - Only and only after the satanic and abominable event exposed above (1) be accomplished, simultaneously one of the seven heads of the Dragon -Satan- linked to the Beast of sea, the Pope with his great harlot, the RCC, will be being mortally wounded by a Sword, understand? Then the false messiah will work in the way the deadly wound of the Beast of sea be healed, for that the abominable and ruthless Jewish messiah of the tribe of Dan (Rev.13v.11-18 and Genesis 49:v.16-17), he will give his Throne, and his Seat, and Great Authority to the Beast of sea-the Pope-, a Gentile Beast. This done, the 10 tribes of Israel through the messiah will be linked/ united to the Beast of sea-the Pope-, which will sit on the throne of the Jewish messiah in Jerusalem, and the world will be wondered after the Beast, and the world will worship the Dragon-the false messiah- which gave power unto the Beast of sea-the Pope. And they (the world)will worship the Beast, saying, Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to MAKE WAR with him? Yeah, who is able to MAKE WAR against the Beast?

Brothers in Christ. Get ready.

Oseas · Nov 9, 2020

Steve Hamilton said:
I don’t believe that Satan has a body. He may be able to take on bodily form. But most of those verses you quoted are allegorical. He is called the prince of the power of the air and a spirit. So I believe that Satan is a spiritual being.

Ephesians 2:2 in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience.

In the Old Testament he is a former Cherub, he is the former ruler of the Garden of Eden, the God's Garden, and after the rebellion was called of Serpent, and the Devil, and Satan, but in this current time of Revelation another name or title was/is given to him, namely, Red Dragon. Revelation 12: v. 7 says: And the great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his messengers or Ministers-2Corinthians 11:v.13-15- were cast out with him.

Douggg · Nov 10, 2020

Oseas said:
You-we- know that Revelation was written around year 95AD or 100AD, in that time Satan had not the 7 heads yet, neither the 10 horns, nor his TAIL, evidently. IOW, in that time Satan had not a body as he has it today, without the 10 horns for now.

In Revelation 12, the first five verses which are an historical account of Israel giving birth to Jesus, and Satan's attempt to kill Jesus when he was a little baby. Those verses show Satan as having the ten horns and seven heads even then.

What you are attempting, I assume, but are missing the point is that the crowns on the heads and horns change between chapters 12, 13, 17.

Revelation 17, no crowns. 7 heads, ten horns.

Revelation 12, crowns on the heads only. 7 heads, ten horns.

Revelation 13, crowns on the horns only. 7 heads, ten horns.

Oseas · Nov 11, 2020

Douggg said:
In Revelation 12, the first five verses which are an historical account of Israel giving birth to Jesus, and Satan's attempt to kill Jesus when he was a little baby. Those verses show Satan as having the ten horns and seven heads even then.

My concern with all readers in this Christian forum is the manifestation of God's Truth.

What is written in the first 5 verses of Revelation 12 has nothing to do with the birth of JESUS, as you said, no, absolutely no. See, you-we all- know that the book of Revelation was a sealed book with seven seals. Actually a secret book of the Most High God that was opened in the third heaven, its content was revealed in heaven only 65 or 70 years after JESUS'ascension.

JESUS was sat at the right hand of the Father in the third heaven there was 65 years, and a great ceremony was held for the opening of the seven seals of the secret book, the book of Apocalypse, right?

Reading Revelation 1: v.1:
Do you think God gave Jesus the sealed book of Revelation, telling JESUS the story of His birth in his secret book of Revelation, as you suggest it was? Of course not, this wonderful event was already written in the four books of Gospel, the whole contemporaneous world had already heard about JESUS's birth occurred 95 years ago.

Sorry, Douggg, it is ridiculous you say the Most High God gave the sealed book of Apocalypse to JESUS open it and knowing "an historical account of Israel giving birth to Jesus, and Satan's atempt to kill Jesus when he was a little baby" as you say. Oh please, Douggg, God is not a storyteller like you.

Do you think JESUS sent his angel in Patmos, actually an Archangel, to tell John the story of His birth through the first 5 verses of Revelation 12? Of course not, John already knew in detail all things about JESUS's birth.

Furthermore, Revelation 22:v.6 says: These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent His angel to shew unto His servants the things which must shortly be done.
So, there is nothing retroactive you can add to Scriptures.

I respect the great knowledge you have of History, I recognize your ability to tell and assemble stories, I think there is no one greater than you as a storyteller.

Douggg said:
What you are attempting, I assume, but are missing the point is that the crowns on the heads and horns change between chapters 12, 13, 17.
Revelation 17, no crowns. 7 heads, ten horns.
Revelation 12, crowns on the heads only. 7 heads, ten horns.
Revelation 13, crowns on the horns only. 7 heads, ten horns.

I did not comment on crowns in my message, this is out of context, my comment is about a satanic and monstrous and powerful structure that Satan has developed in his religious and political world in the last 2000 years, prophesied synthetically in Scripture as a Red dragon with 7 heads, 10 horns and a tail.
Now, in the time of Apocalypse, the ancient Serpent, named Devil and Satan, is namely as red Dragon.

Yeah, even now, in this time of Apocalypse, Red Dragon is the new name for the ancient Serpent,called Devil and Satan. Rev.12:v.9

Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

Douggg · Nov 11, 2020

Oseas said:
What is written in the first 5 verses of Revelation 12 has nothing to do with the birth of JESUS, as you said, no, absolutely no.

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Oseas said:
Do you think JESUS sent his angel in Patmos, actually an Archangel, to tell John the story of His birth through the first 5 verses of Revelation 12? Of course not, John already knew in detail all things about JESUS's birth.

Just read the text. Her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. Who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron.

Oseas · Nov 14, 2020

Douggg said:
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Just read the text. Her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Douggg,
The question is not to merely read the text. The question is the revelation of the mystery and interpretation.
Revelation 1:v.19
- Write the things which thou hast seen, (1)
- and the things which are, (2)
- and the things which shall be hereafter; (3)
(1) - The things which John had seen -
Revelation 1:v.11- What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia...- I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia;

(2) -The things which are: Revelation chapters 2-3
- Spiritual environment of churches- it's is about the decadent conditions of the seven Churches in Asia, described in the chapters 2 and 3;
2:v.1 - Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; ...
2:v.8 - And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; T
2:v.12 - And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; ...
2:v.18 - And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; ...
3:v.1 - And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; ...
3:v.7 - And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; ...
3:v.14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write...

(3) The things which shall be hereafter; Revelation chapters 4 to 22.
Revelation 22:v.6 says: 6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel (actually an Archangel) to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

Revelation 1:v.1and 8
v.1 - The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to happen; and he sent and signified it by His angel unto His servant John:
v.8 - I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Douggg - You should keep more these things in mind: Revelation 4:v.1
1 - After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and a voice talking with me, said: Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. (Why do not you come up hither? If you do not agree in the Scriptures above, it is because you do not believe in the Scriptures.)

Douggg said:
Who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron.

Yes, but first must happen and will happen the follow things:

- Revelation 11:v.15-19 - First will sound the seventh trumpet;

- Revelation 12:v.7-12 - There will be War against the old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, but now, even ow, in this current time of Apocalypse his name is red Dragon, and when his body be complete and by entire, this gigantic religious MONSTER will appear with his 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a terrible TAIL, and fights against the God's people;

- Revelation 13:v.2to4 - One of the seven heads of the Beast of sea, linked and united with the Dragon by his 7 heads, yeah, one of the 7 heads of that Beast will be wounded to death or mortally; And the Dragon will give to the Beast of Sea his Power, and his Throne in Jerusalem, and great Authority.

- Revelation 16:v.16 - The War is the War of Armagedon (contraction of three words: Air+Magog+Eddon)
Air (Ar)- Air means heaven where we are in the current time (Eph.1:v.3 among others);
Magog (mag) - the Beast of sea - a religious MONSTER who has only 7 heads in the current time, whose religious Power is spread in the whole earth; (Note: the 10 horns is not linked to the Beast of sea still, but it will be linked ;
Eddon (eddon) eddon means red ---> refers to the red Dragon
- AR-MAG-EDON - refers to a battle against three UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS

Douggg, see, the book of Revelation written around the year 95AD or 100AD is essentially prophetic and the prophecies are about times future, except chapters 1 to 3 where is described the decadent condition of each one of the churches, by the way contemporary with John. The prophecies and things which were written have no retroactive effect, of course, the contrary is not prophecy evidently, as you have imagined and posted here.

The content of the book of Apocalypse is a Revelation of Jesus Christ whose things will go to happen still. Honestly, interpreting the things of Apocalypse retroactively long before the year 95 is a blunder. Actually you try to adapt Scriptures to the speculations and imaginations of you, Douggg,
Douggg, any comment about Scriptures MUST be true, the reverse is cause of severe punishments physical and spirirually. Be careful.

Douggg · Nov 14, 2020

Oseas said:
Douggg - You should keep more these things in mind: Revelation 4:v.1
1 - After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and a voice talking with me, said: Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. (Why do not you come up hither? If you do not agree in the Scriptures above, it is because you do not believe in the Scriptures.)

It is talking about things John would be shown of the future, the end times. the 70th week of Daniel 9.

Oseas said:
- Revelation 16:v.16 - The War is the War of Armagedon (contraction of three words: Air+Magog+Eddon)
Air (Ar)- Air means heaven where we are in the current time (Eph.1:v.3 among others);

No, "air" is not part of Armageddon. "Har" not "Ar". "Har" meaning "mount".

Armageddon - Wikipedia

Oseas · Nov 16, 2020

Oseas said:
Douggg - You should keep more these things in mind: Revelation 4:v.1
1 - After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and a voice talking with me, said: Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. (Why do not you come up hither? If you do not agree in the Scriptures above, it is because you do not believe in the Scriptures.)

Douggg said:
It is talking about things John would be shown of the future, the end times. the 70th week of Daniel 9.

Therefore, in the book of Revelation there is nothing written that is retroactive of year 95AD.

Oseas said:
- Revelation 16:v.16 - The War is the War of Armageddon (contraction of three words: Air+Magog+Eddon)
Air (Ar)- Air means heaven where we are in the current time (Eph.1:v.3 among others);

Douggg said:
No, "air" is not part of Armageddon. "Har" not "Ar". "Har" meaning "mount".
Armageddon - Wikipedia

Sorry Douggg, if you are trying to confound the things, you are wasting your time.

See, the three unclean spirits of demons are not and will not be on the ruins of your "mount" working miracles or to make miracles, but in the mouth of those which are guided by them, everyone who will follow them and will be with them in this battle, battle of Armageddon, even now in this great Day of God Almighty, that is the last Day, the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium. Aleluiaaaaaa!!!

Ephesians 6:v.12 -
We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, and against the worldly governors, the princes of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness, which are in the high places (or heavenly places - Ephesians 1:v.3).

Oseas · Nov 16, 2020

Revelation 12:v.7 and 10-13 -
7 - And there was WAR in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the Dragon; and the Dragon fought and his angels (messengers).

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven(heaven - Ephesians 1:v.3-Check it out), Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God(Revelation 11:v.15-18-Check it out), and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they(Michael and his messengers) overcame him(overcame the Dragon)by the blood of the Lamb(by the blood of JESUS), and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens(Ephesians 1:v.3), and ye (you brothers in Christ) that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the Devil(the Dragon-this is his new name of Devil in this time of Apocalypse) is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Brothers in Christ, get ready.

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