Is the thousand years of Revelation chapter 20 symbolic?

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Why are we forcing any thing. The souls in Revelation 6 are given robes of white, glorified in Paradise. Where in Revelation 20 does it say souls are given robes of white and glorified in Paradise. NO WHERE!!! So who is forcing Revelation 20 to say what Revelation 6 says?


If two different eyewitnesses describe the same automobile accident using different words, it could not be the same wreck based on your logic???


And this is what is required to make the Premill doctrine work...



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Forget Revelation 9:1-2, and it will be real simple.

Forget Matthew 25:31-46, and it will be real simple.

Forget Revelation 11:15-18, and it will be real simple.

Forget 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and it will be real simple.

Forget 2 Timothy 4:1, and it will be real simple.
Revelation 9:1-2.
"The fifth angel sounded his shofar; and I saw a star that had fallen out of heaven onto the earth, and he was given the key to the shaft leading down to the Abyss.
2 He opened the shaft of the Abyss, and there went up smoke from the shaft like the smoke of a huge furnace; the sun was darkened, and the sky too, by the smoke from the shaft."

If that is Satan opening his front door, it is not because he was bound there. He left heaven to accomplish the job.

What does this have to do with Satan being bound there 42+ months later? That time another angel escorts Satan to the pit and locks it behind him. No changing Scripture, no rearranging Scripture, nor private interpretation unless you do not think it is Satan in Revelation 9:1-2. I am ok with it it not being Satan or being Satan. To make a point YOU HAVE TO CHANGE Scripture. I accept Revelation 9:1-2 as a literal event with literal physical consequences.

Matthew 25:31-46

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, accompanied by all the angels, he will sit on his glorious throne.
32 All the nations will be assembled before him, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates sheep from goats.
33 The ‘sheep’ he will place at his right hand and the ‘goats’ at his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you whom my Father has blessed, take your inheritance, the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.
35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you made me your guest,
36 I needed clothes and you provided them, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’
37 Then the people who have done what God wants will reply, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
38 When did we see you a stranger and make you our guest, or needing clothes and provide them?
39 When did we see you sick or in prison, and visit you?’
40 The King will say to them, ‘Yes! I tell you that whenever you did these things for one of the least important of these brothers of mine, you did them for me!’
41 “Then he will also speak to those on his left, saying, ‘Get away from me, you who are cursed! Go off into the fire prepared for the Adversary and his angels!
42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,
43 a stranger and you did not welcome me, needing clothes and you did not give them to me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’
44 Then they too will reply, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, thirsty, a stranger, needing clothes, sick or in prison, and not take care of you?’
45 And he will answer them, ‘Yes! I tell you that whenever you refused to do it for the least important of these people, you refused to do it for me!’
46 They will go off to eternal punishment, but those who have done what God wants will go to eternal life.”

Verse 31 is fulfilled in Revelation 6:12-13

12 Then I watched as he broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake, the sun turned black as sackcloth worn in mourning, and the full moon became blood-red.
13 The stars fell from heaven to earth just as a fig tree drops its figs when shaken by a strong wind.

The Second Coming with the angels. The symbolism of stars coming to earth like fig leaves. Why would just the angels come?

The Trumpet and Thunder events cover the separation of the sheep and the goats, and the wheat and the tares. The angels are there to take their souls to Revelation 20:4

The goats are sent to everlasting Death with a capital D. The same Death mentioned in the 4th seal:

"Its rider’s name was Death, and Sh’ol followed behind him. They were given authority to kill one-quarter of the world by war, by famine, by plagues and with the wild animals of the earth."

Revelation 20:13
"Death and Sh’ol gave up the dead in them; and they were judged, each according to what he had done."

Who is the "he"? Death only accepts certain chosen people, the goats and tares for starters, but some in the 4th seal are also taken by Death. Those in Death can never escape the Second death. Can those in sheol?

If you claim this separation of sheep and goats, is about resurrected dead people, they come from sheol. Thus those in sheol have to be sheep and wheat, but outside of the church. The church was completed and judged on the Cross. Why would there be goats and tares in heaven? Saying the separation is about dead people makes your case untenable. Yet you choose this position over the current nation of Israel being born in a day? My interpretation only allows living humans. It does not matter if they live in Israel or not.

Revelation 11:15-18

15 The seventh angel sounded his shofar; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying,

“The kingdom of the world
has become the Kingdom
of our Lord and his Messiah,
and he will rule forever and ever!”

16 The twenty-four elders sitting on their thrones in God’s presence fell on their faces and worshipped God,
17 saying,

“We thank you, Adonai,
God of heaven’s armies,
the One who is and was,
that you have taken your power
and have begun to rule.

18 “The Goyim raged.
But now your rage has come,
the time for the dead to be judged,
the time for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your holy people,
those who stand in awe of your name,
both small and great.
It is also the time for destroying
those who destroy the earth.”

Now that the sheep and wheat have been transported to Revelation 20:4 by the angels, it is time to celebrate. The prophets representing the church are rewarded. It is time to destroy all left on earth.

You are the one denying Christ is here to set up a 1000 year reign. What is the point of assuming all authority and then create a new reality? You can forget Revelation 20, just how you falsely accuse us of forgetting your passages. We accept them even in ways you reject them. You change the meaning using your own private interpretation.

2 Timothy 4
"I solemnly charge you before God and the Messiah Yeshua, who will judge the living and the dead when he appears and establishes his Kingdom:
2 proclaim the Word! Be on hand with it whether the time seems right or not. Convict, censure and exhort with unfailing patience and with teaching.
3 For the time is coming when people will not have patience for sound teaching, but will cater to their passions and gather around themselves teachers who say whatever their ears itch to hear.
4 Yes, they will stop listening to the truth, but will turn aside to follow myths.
5 But you, remain steady in every situation, endure suffering, do the work that a proclaimer of the Good News should, and do everything your service to God requires."

At what point is this Second Coming to establish a kingdom? Is it on earth since it happens when Christ comes to earth to finish his earthly ministry. Who is the living and the dead? Who are in Christ and who are not in Christ? It seems to me the living are in Christ. The dead are not in Christ. Whose interpretation is correct? It is a physical Kingdom, yet you claim: "No, it is spiritual". No such thing as a Lord's Day/1000 years. Is the soon coming Kingdom physical on earth or heavenly in heaven? Then you want to take the literal words living and dead to be living and dead. Why take that as literal, but not an earthly Kingdom?

If the church is not part of the kingdom on earth, then the living are not the church, and your literal living and dead remain that way. The judgment is just 1000 years between the living and the dead. But at the Second Coming all will be dead by the end of the battle of Armageddon. That is the judgment of the living and is still separated by 1000 years from the dead. Revelation 20:4 is the result of some judged while they lived, the sheep and wheat. The reward is the 1000 year reign with Christ. That is their only reward. How they lived thereafter is a bonus. The dead are rewarded in Death. Eternal death in the lake of fire. Removing or accepting a 1000 year time frame does not change that fact either way. Why not leave Revelation 20 as is?

So who is changing God's Word because it appeals to their senses? It is not me. It is those who deny and reject the black and white text in God's Word. Those who turn literal words into symbols so they can make up their own literal interpretation of said symbol. Those who reject the Lord's Day as being 1000 years as Peter claims. You are the one who rejects 2 Timothy 4, not me.
 
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If two different eyewitnesses describe the same automobile accident using different words, it could not be the same wreck based on your logic???
And this is what is required to make the Premill doctrine work...

Is the Second Coming before the 1000 years. That is the only thing to interpret, no? Do you have excess baggage in your closet? Not me.
 
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Is the Second Coming before the 1000 years. That is the only thing to interpret, no? Do you have excess baggage in your closet? Not me.


Paul reveals the timing for us.

Paul says Christ returns "in flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not know God in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10.
The fire comes at the end of Revelation 20.


Paul said Christ judges both the living and the dead at His appearing.
The judgment of the dead is found at the end of Revelation 20, and also in Revelation 11:18.


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Revelation 9:1-2.
"The fifth angel sounded his shofar; and I saw a star that had fallen out of heaven onto the earth, and he was given the key to the shaft leading down to the Abyss.
2 He opened the shaft of the Abyss, and there went up smoke from the shaft like the smoke of a huge furnace; the sun was darkened, and the sky too, by the smoke from the shaft."

If that is Satan opening his front door, it is not because he was bound there. He left heaven to accomplish the job.


It is not Satan, since he is one of the angels in the pit when the angel comes down with the key in Revelation 9:1-2.



Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.


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It is not Satan, since he is one of the angels in the pit when the angel comes down with the key in Revelation 9:1-2.


Satan cannot have been locked in the pit before the 5th trump because Revelation 12 covers time from Christ's birth all the way until Satan starts the great trib and he was not locked in the pit anywhere in that chapter. He is fully free and outside of the pit between the birth of Christ and the starting of the GT. Furthermore, we know Satan is still not locked in the pit during the GT because of what he is doing and he is still not locked in the pit during the vials of wrath because of this verse:

Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Revelation 12 and this proves satan was not locked in the pit between the birth of Christ and the battle of Armageddon.

That is fully in line with Premill which teaches that Satan is only locked in the pit after the defeat at Armageddon, and that battle happens at the second coming. So, Satan locked in the pit for a thousand years can only happen after the GT has ended and after Armageddon's battle is concluded.
 
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Paul reveals the timing for us.

Paul says Christ returns "in flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not know God in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10.
The fire comes at the end of Revelation 20.


Paul said Christ judges both the living and the dead at His appearing.
The judgment of the dead is found at the end of Revelation 20, and also in Revelation 11:18.
Fire appears throughout Revelation, not just in Revelation 20.

I already pointed out who the living and dead are. You ignore any point I make. Are you taking the literal approach or symbolic approach? Or just do not know who the living and dead are? The living are the sheep and wheat. The dead are the goats and tares. They are judged one way or the other, no?

I ask again, why is the church judged twice? Once on the Cross and then at the GWT. Do you not know who stands at the GWT? Your interpretation means there has been no living Christians on earth for 1990 years. They are all in Paradise. They have been there since the first resurrection at the cross. Only dead people have lived on earth for 1990 years and they stand at the GWT. This interpretation of Revelation 20 makes no sense whatsoever. So saying that the dead are only judged at the GWT is useless. It has no meaning whatsoever.
 
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It is not Satan, since he is one of the angels in the pit when the angel comes down with the key in Revelation 9:1-2.

You have no proof Satan was in the pit.

Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

This is no proof Apollyon was confined to the pit. This may be Satan. But still no proof Satan was in the pit, much less bound in the pit.

The angels confined to sheol, have been there since at least the Flood. Jesus lived thousands of years after the Flood.

What is your point? Can you prove Satan was not in the book of Job free and walking in and out of God's presence? Was God not in Heaven at that time but confined to earth? Placing Satan in a bound condition can only happen after the 3 deadly amigos: Satan, the FP, and the beast are destroyed at the battle of Armageddon. 2 go into the lake of fire, Satan bound up in the pit for 1000 years. Not on a long chain like a dog. Satan is not even cast out of heaven until the last trumpet, the 7th Trumpet. Did the 7 Trumpets sound at the Cross?
 
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Sure we can.

"souls" are found in heaven.

The texts below prove the Saints in Revelation 20 can span the entire age of the Church, which would include the Apostle Paul.


Rev_6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:


Rev_20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


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In the 5th seal nothing is said about the souls under the altar being martyred for their refusal to worship the beast, his image, or receive his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands. They also are seeing to be asking,

Until when, Master, holy and true, do You not judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"

We are told in the Revelation that these souls are told to rest yet for a little time, until both their fellow servants and their brothers (those about to be killed as they were) should have their number made complete.

So the question arises regarding those who will be beheaded for their refusal to worship the beast, his image or receive his mark, which are spoken about in Revelation 13:11-18, and Revelation 15:1-4, and Revelation 20:4:

Are they the last saints to be martyred before the return of Christ? If so, would they not be the saints who are to complete the full number of saints who, during this age, have been martyred for the word of God and their testimony to Christ?

The Revelation gives us the interpretation by giving us the key:

"Beheaded for their refusal to worship the beast, his image or receive his mark, or the number of his name."

What does Revelation 13:11-18 and 15:1-4 and 20:4 tell us about the reason the saints mentioned in these chapters were martyred?

Does the Revelation tell us that the martyrs mentioned in the 5th seal are among these who will be final end-of-age martyrs? Or does it imply these seen under the altar in the 5th seal had been martyred already, since they are told to rest yet a little while until the last group of martyrs are killed as they were?

Of course it implies the above.

Again, what does Revelation 13:11-18 and 15:1-4 and 20:4 tell us about the reason the saints mentioned in these chapters were martyred?

Revelation 13:1-10 and Revelation 17:8, 14 and 11: 7-12 tell us who this beast is, and how it will be destroyed - it will be destroyed by Christ at His return.

Does the resurrection of the dead not take place at the return of Christ?

So it's quite obvious that the 5th seal is not talking about the same group of martyrs that Revelation 20 is talking about.
 
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John 14:20
At that day you shall know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.

John 15:4
Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it remains in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me.

OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS: Resurrection Verses

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Does the resurrection of the dead not take place at the return of Christ?

So it's quite obvious that the 5th seal is not talking about the same group of martyrs that Revelation 20 is talking about.


And the return of Christ is found in Revelation 11:15-18, which includes the 7th trumpet, and the time of the judgment of the dead.
You cannot have a judgment of the dead without a bodily resurrection of the dead.

This passage is one of several which prove the book is not in chronological order.


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And the return of Christ is found in Revelation 11:15-18, which includes the 7th trumpet, and the time of the judgment of the dead.
You cannot have a judgment of the dead without a bodily resurrection of the dead.

This passage is one of several which prove the book is not in chronological order.


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"But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection.
The second death has no authority over these, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him a thousand years."

Therefore those dead who are not resurrected from the dead when the 7th trumpet sounds, are judged, because the 2nd death still has power over them - whereas the 2nd death will not have power over those who are resurrected at that point in time.

Death and hades will deliver up the rest of the dead at the GWT when the thousand years has closed.

UNLESS we insert a fanciful idea about a one-thousand year period being thousands of years (but then we will have to adjust the entire New Testament to fit in with such a notion, strange and foreign as it is to the text, so better rather not do that, then).
 
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And the return of Christ is found in Revelation 11:15-18, which includes the 7th trumpet, and the time of the judgment of the dead.
You cannot have a judgment of the dead without a bodily resurrection of the dead.

This passage is one of several which prove the book is not in chronological order.


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The whole book is about the second coming. The order is unchangeable. It is also correct being that it is God's Word. Your theology is chronologically out of order. If your theory was, right, you would not make that claim about the Word of God.
 
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Therefore those dead who are not resurrected from the dead when the 7th trumpet sounds, are judged, because the 2nd death still has power over them - whereas the 2nd death will not have power over those who are resurrected at that point in time.


2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;


The kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of God and Christ "forever" at the 7th trumpet in Revelation 11:15-18.

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2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;


The kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of God and Christ "forever" at the 7th trumpet in Revelation 11:15-18.

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The dead do not have to be resurrected when Christ returns in order to be judged. They can be judged and the sentence upon them executed a thousand years later at the GWT - which is when the text says the sentence will be executed. Whoever does not believe is condemned already, as we speak.
 
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The dead do not have to be resurrected when Christ returns in order to be judged.


Resurrection and judgment go hand in hand. That verse is speaking of judging the dead in Christ not the unsaved dead who are judged at a different time.
 
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Resurrection and judgment go hand in hand. That verse is speaking of judging the dead in Christ not the unsaved dead who are judged at a different time.
Maybe so, but in the days of Noah, judgment was passed down by God 120 years before the flood came. Judgment was passed the moment God said,

"And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created, from the face of the earth, both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air. For I repent that I have made them." Gen 6:7

It was 120 years before the sentence was executed.

Jesus said, "He who believes on Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God." (John 3:18) Therefore to me it seems that many who have heard the gospel but rejected it, are already condemned to the lake of fire, and there is no one in the lake of fire yet, but many sleep. Those who fell asleep in Christ are with Christ, I believe (because that's what Paul implied when he spoke about the fact that he would rather be absent from the body and present with the Lord).

The Greek Septuagint always uses the word hades as a literal translation of the Hebrew sheol. I do believe in shoel/hades/purgatory/abode of the dead as the Catholics do, and I believe the rest of the dead are in sheol/hades/purgatory, waiting for death and hades to deliver up all the dead in them at the GWT. Therefore I don't believe in the Protestant teaching of "You either go to heaven or to hell when you die", because Jesus only used Geena/Gehenna/Valley of Hinnom as a symbol for the place of eternal punishment of the wicked (whenever he spoke of eternal punishment of the wicked), and the Revelation talks about the lake of fire as that place, but Jesus also spoke about hades, and the rich man in hades. The Bible also teaches that Jesus descended into hades when He died, and preached to the spirits in prison in hades.

Tartarus is mentioned only as the place where angels have been bound since the days of Genesis (probably the days of Noah), and the only info we have about this "Tartarus" is from Greek mythology where it was considered a prison in the lowest depths of hades. Those three Greek words - geena, hades and tartarus - are the three words the KJV translates each time they pop up in the New Testament, as "hell", making no distinction.

I believe that the souls of those who have heard the gospel but rejected it, and those who have not heard the gospel, go to hades/the abode of the dead when they die. I believe Geena is probably a symbol for the lake of fire. I also believe the gospel is known in hades, since Christ preached in hades when He died, and we read of those under the earth praising Christ in the Revelation.

So when the resurrection of those who died in Christ takes place, the rest of the souls in hades will feel themselves judged, because they will have not yet been resurrected, and therefore the second death still has power over them. Revelation says that death and hades will deliver all the souls in them following the close of the thousand years at the time of the GWT, and then whoever is not found in the Lamb's book of Life at that point, will be thrown into the LOF.

So to me, the resurrection of the saints at the return of Christ = the judgment of the dead in hades by default, although the sentence will only be carried out a thousand years later when death and hades deliver up all the souls in them (just as the sentence was only carried out 120 years after it had been passed down in the days of Noah).

That does not mean that I'm correct. Of course I could be wrong, and you could be correct in saying that resurrection and judgment go hand in hand, and it is only the dead in Christ who are being judged at the 7th trumpet.

What I do think is that the reason why the saints argue and debate this stuff, is because even though we think we fully understand, none of us fully understands, and we don't fully understand because the Bible does not spell it out for us, or make all these matters explicit. I don't believe we are necessarily told everything we want to know in the Bible, but we are told what we need to know - and we are explicitly told about souls who had been beheaded for their witness to Christ and their refusal to worship the beast or his image or accept his mark or the number of his name, living and reigning with Christ for a one-thousand year period, having had part in the first resurrection, and that the second death has no power over them, therefore they are called "blessed and holy".

I see no reason why foreign ideas which are alien to the text about a one-thousand year period being thousands of years, should be mentally inserted into the text, because I see no reason why being beheaded for their testimony to Christ AND their refusal to worship the beast or his image or receive his mark of the number of his name, should be ripped out of its future historical context and placed who-knows-where in the thousands of years in-between Calvary and the return of Jesus. And that's aside from all the other reasons I've already given.
 
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Resurrection and judgment go hand in hand. That verse is speaking of judging the dead in Christ not the unsaved dead who are judged at a different time.
There is no mention of the church in Revelation 20. How do you get from those beheaded in Satan's 42 months to them being in Christ? They got their heads cut off to avoid the mark. The mark is in exchange for one's name in the book of life. But being beheaded is not a decision about the Atonement. They only escape the second death. They are not glorified or part of the church.
 
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There is no mention of the church in Revelation 20. How do you get from those beheaded in Satan's 42 months to them being in Christ? They got their heads cut off to avoid the mark. The mark is in exchange for one's name in the book of life. But being beheaded is not a decision about the Atonement. They only escape the second death. They are not glorified or part of the church.

Uh, they are part of the first resurrection which means they are part of the Church and are glorified and immortal.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 
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Uh, they are part of the first resurrection which means they are part of the Church and are glorified and immortal.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
This resurrection was after the Second Coming. The church in Christ was judged, buried, and resurrected in 30AD, at least 1990 years before the Revelation 20 resurrection.

It was the first Resurrection after the battle of Armageddon. It was the start of the Lord's Day. No one of Adam, in Adam's sinful flesh was alive on earth. There is no verse proving any are alive. Revelation 20:4 is proof many needed to be resurrected to populate and fill the earth for the next 1000 years. That is the point of it being the Day of the Lord. For 6 days humans were punished and had to work. Exodus 20. Six days shalt though labor.. then Remember the 7th and keep it Holy. When Adam disobeyed, God only required 6000 years of sin and death by sin. Revelation 10:5-7

5 Then the angel I saw standing on the sea and on the land lifted his right hand toward heaven
6 and swore by the One who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and what is in it, earth and what is in it, and the sea and what is in it: “There will be no more delay;
7 on the contrary, in the days of the sound from the seventh angel when he sounds his shofar, the hidden plan of God will be brought to completion, the Good News as he proclaimed it to his servants the prophets.”

John ties in the creation story and explains that the hidden plan is completed. What hidden plan? Why did no one tell us until it was about completed? What is the Good News of the OT and NT? Why can no one agree on the book of Revelation? The seals opened up the Lamb's book of life with every name of every descendant of Adam. The Trumpets separated those left after the church was completed in the 6th seal. The sheep separated from the goats, that is those alive on the earth. The sheep were resurrected in Revelation 20:4. Then in the Thunders, the Nations were left after the church and sheep were removed. This is the harvest of the wheat and tares. The wheat is resurrected in Revelation 20:4. All that is left are the 42 months of Satan. Those beheaded are resurrected in Revelation 20:4. At the battle of Armageddon all those with the mark are destroyed. No descendant of Adam left alive. Then the next day the first resurrection found in Revelation 20:4. The rest of the dead, the goats, the tares, and those cursed with 666, did not live again until the 1000 years were finished. Remember the 7th day and keep it Holy. The hidden plan of God is completed. The church is in Paradise.
 
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