The (NY) Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud

CitizenD · Nov 10, 2020

The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud

The president and his allies have baselessly claimed that rampant voter fraud stole victory from him. Officials contacted by The Times said that there were no irregularities that affected the outcome.

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But top election officials across the country said in interviews and statements that the process had been a remarkable success despite record turnout and the complications of a dangerous pandemic.

“There’s a great human capacity for inventing things that aren’t true about elections,” said Frank LaRose, a Republican who serves as Ohio’s secretary of state. “The conspiracy theories and rumors and all those things run rampant. For some reason, elections breed that type of mythology.”

Steve Simon, a Democrat who is Minnesota’s secretary of state, said: “I don’t know of a single case where someone argued that a vote counted when it shouldn’t have or didn’t count when it should. There was no fraud.”

“Kansas did not experience any widespread, systematic issues with voter fraud, intimidation, irregularities or voting problems,” a spokeswoman for Scott Schwab, the Republican secretary of state in Kansas, said in an email Tuesday. “We are very pleased with how the election has gone up to this point.”

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Every state was contacted and not one set of election officials said they had any confirmed cases of fraud.

How wild that the GOP is telling people that there are so many examples of fraud! Just look at this lunatic on YouTube completely disingenuously misrepresenting a completely legal situation as fraud.

Ah... but then the GOP [doesn't actually tell the courts that the fraud is happening](

), seriously, click the link... the GOP is telling judges in these "fraud" filings completely contradictory things to what they're telling the public. This is a link to the summary section of a much longer piece that demonstrates a few cases where the GOP has either already had their fraud claims rejected or has been submitting completely different, totally not fraud arguments.

Quid est Veritas? · Nov 10, 2020

Not saying there was fraud, but if there had been, who do you think would have committed it or would have an interest in covering it up? Calling election officials to ask about fraud is the equivalent to calling a dictatorship's ambassador to ask about human rights violations.

Who watches the watchers? Let Trump's lawsuits go ahead. If they find something, then it will be a boon to democracy to out malfeasance; if not, then Biden will have additional legitimacy. Either way, I don't see the downside.

lasthero · Nov 11, 2020

Quid est Veritas? said:
Not saying there was fraud, but if there had been, who do you think would have committed it or would have an interest in covering it up? Calling election officials to ask about fraud is the equivalent to calling a dictatorship's ambassador to ask about human rights violations.

Even the Republican ones?

KCfromNC · Nov 11, 2020

Quid est Veritas? said:
Not saying there was fraud, but if there had been, who do you think would have committed it or would have an interest in covering it up?

The guy losing the in polls (and later in the actual votes). I mean, really, what's the motivation for someone cheating when they expect to win fairly?

CitizenD · Nov 11, 2020

Quid est Veritas? said:
Not saying there was fraud, but if there had been, who do you think would have committed it or would have an interest in covering it up? Calling election officials to ask about fraud is the equivalent to calling a dictatorship's ambassador to ask about human rights violations.

Who watches the watchers? Let Trump's lawsuits go ahead. If they find something, then it will be a boon to democracy to out malfeasance; if not, then Biden will have additional legitimacy. Either way, I don't see the downside.

Do you mean the republican

Quid est Veritas? said:
Not saying there was fraud, but if there had been, who do you think would have committed it or would have an interest in covering it up? Calling election officials to ask about fraud is the equivalent to calling a dictatorship's ambassador to ask about human rights violations.

Who watches the watchers? Let Trump's lawsuits go ahead. If they find something, then it will be a boon to democracy to out malfeasance; if not, then Biden will have additional legitimacy. Either way, I don't see the downside.

And not a single one of the 30+ Republican secretaries of state said there was one instance of confirmed fraud.

MIDutch · Nov 11, 2020

Quid est Veritas? said:
Not saying there was fraud, but if there had been, who do you think would have committed it or would have an interest in covering it up?

So, Democrats (maybe) stole the election for Biden, but still let McConnell, Graham, Collins, et al, retain their Senate seats?

Does that make any sense from a Democratic viewpoint?

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