We Are In The Laodicea Church Age

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Revelation is about the Church victorious. Wouldn't Satan love to have you think about an age of defeat for the Church based on false prophecy?
Using history to suit your theology is what is wrong. Why would a warning be a false prophecy? If it came to pass, that would make the prophecy true. Which church are you rooting for? The harlot or the one that was victorious.

Kinda judgmental of you to claim I am for the harlot church, no? Did I ever claim the church was defeated by Satan, ever? Perhaps you could point out your understanding of a harlot, and state the difference between a harlot church that willingly offers herself to Satan, and at what point she stops being the church? Not even martyredom defeated the church. Playing the harlot did not defeat the church either. Only a church that believes it is defeated, may be.
 
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Using history to suit your theology is what is wrong. Why would a warning be a false prophecy? If it came to pass, that would make the prophecy true. Which church are you rooting for? The harlot or the one that was victorious.

Kinda judgmental of you to claim I am for the harlot church, no? Did I ever claim the church was defeated by Satan, ever? Perhaps you could point out your understanding of a harlot, and state the difference between a harlot church that willingly offers herself to Satan, and at what point she stops being the church? Not even martyredom defeated the church. Playing the harlot did not defeat the church either. Only a church that believes it is defeated, may be.
Scripture does not mention it = false prophecy.
 
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One must be able to demonstrate the tenants any biblical doctrine from the pages of scripture in order to assert the doctrine is biblical. One cannot simply make up doctrine out of thin air, which appears to be what you are doing here.

The fact remains, the 7 Church age theory has not one iota of scripture to back it up.
Not even one passage.

it has been invented from the unbiblical traditions of men, and has no scriptural support.
If it had scriptural support of any kind, it could be demonstrated from the pages of scripture.

Can you demonstrate the correctness of this doctorate from the pages of scripture?

I’ve already provided links to prove my position.
 
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Just because it’s not spelled out for you completely and totally in black and white doesn’t mean that it’s not true. Many of the Old Testament prophecies that have been fulfilled were hard to understand and were not spelled out plainly.
No scripture = no faith = the flesh came up with it.
 
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There will never be a Laodicean Church other than the original. The true Church always overcomes.
“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God [the Church] are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” 1 John 3:9–10 (KJV 1900)
Trying to re-write history to make a point, seems futile to me.
 
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I have proof. Scripture is missing any information on the "church age theory". All you need to do is cough it up to prove you are right.
So technically nothing is your proof. Sure, you have no proof.
 
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One must be able to demonstrate the tenants any biblical doctrine from the pages of scripture in order to assert the doctrine is biblical. One cannot simply make up doctrine out of thin air, which appears to be what you are doing here.

The fact remains, the 7 Church age theory has not one iota of scripture to back it up.
Not even one passage.

it has been invented from the unbiblical traditions of men, and has no scriptural support.
If it had scriptural support of any kind, it could be demonstrated from the pages of scripture.

Can you demonstrate the correctness of this doctorate from the pages of scripture?
So preterist are wrong and not biblical, would you agree? There is no biblical proof declaring preterist a thing. There is no biblical proof declaring Amil a thing. There is no biblical proof calling post or pre a thing. There is no biblical proof of pre, mid, or post trib a thing. All eschatology theology is not biblical, because none of it is spelled out in Scripture as being a thing. At least we agree on this.
 
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This concept of seeing the seven churches as seven church ages was popularized by Clarence Larkin in his work The Book of Revelation that was published in 1919. It is my understanding that William Branham used much of Larkins book in his book entitled The Seven Church Ages. While I respect those authors for who they are, in particular Clarence Larkin, I believe the most authoritative work on the subject to be Tim LaHaye’s book Revelation Unveiled. He has done an excellent job of showing that church history lines up with the seven church ages. I am indebted to his work and study of the scriptures.

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The Seven Church Ages In Revelation Reveal We Are Approaching The Rapture
 
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I do believe that the letter is addressed to those 1st century churches. But I also believe that it has duel fulfillment and is also addressed to the church ages.


It may be that the warnings given to the seven churches in Asia Minor can be applied to some churches at a later time. That doesn't prove the specifics of the Church Age theory, with its seven made-up time periods.
That's why you should reconsider.
 
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The proof is in your inability to find scripture support.
Is that with or without interpretation? I am not arguing your point, but the premise of one disagreeing with all, because you have them trumped. Is it wrong to generalize?

Is it wrong to define past history? Should one find verses to that end? Your argument erodes any theology you your self hold, or doctrine for that matter, because the Lord's Supper is the only thing that is spelled out as a thing in the Bible. All other doctrine and theology is man made. It is not defined in verses, without interpretation being applied.
 
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It may be that the warnings given to the seven churches in Asia Minor can be applied to some churches at a later time. That doesn't prove the specifics of the Church Age theory, with its seven made-up time periods.
That's why you should reconsider.

Like I said I have been studying this for over 20 years so it’s pretty doubtful that I am going to reconsider.
 
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The fact remains, the 7 Church age theory has not one iota of scripture to back it up.
Not even one passage.
Funny you overlook the very passages to the 7 churches. They are there in black and white. All theory is wrong then, because theory is not a word found in the Bible. Any one with a theory is in opposition to God's Word. How literal do you want to argue your point?
 
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I’ve already provided links to prove my position.
So you personally can’t demonstrate this theory from the pages of scripture? Because those links certainly do not demonstrate the theory from any scriptural passage.
 
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So you personally can’t demonstrate this theory from the pages of scripture? Because those links certainly do not demonstrate the theory from any scriptural passage.

It’s a prophecy man get with the program. It has been fulfilled in real life.
 
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So preterist are wrong and not biblical, would you agree? There is no biblical proof declaring preterist a thing. There is no biblical proof declaring Amil a thing. There is no biblical proof calling post or pre a thing. There is no biblical proof of pre, mid, or post trib a thing. All eschatology theology is not biblical, because none of it is spelled out in Scripture as being a thing. At least we agree on this.

I disagree.
The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that Jesus would come in Judgment within the lifetime of His apostles.
(Matt 24:34, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:32,Matt 16:28, Luke 9:27,Matt 10:23)

The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that all things written would be fulfilled at the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD.
(Luke 21:20-22)

The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that as it was in Noah's day, So would the coming of the Son of Man be. The wicked would be taken in Judgement, and the rightesous would be "left behind" on earth.
(Matt 24:37-41)

The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that salvatiion was not complete until Christ Came in Judgment.
(Hebrews 9:28)

The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that The way to heaven was not opened until the Temple was destroyed.
(Hebrews 9:8)

The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that on the "new earth" Birth, death, ageing and sinners would continue to exist.(Isaiah 65:17-21, Revelation 21 & 22)

The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that Christ is an invisible King, He was to come "in His kingdom" and that the coming of His kingdom would be "unobservable"
(1Timothy 1:17, Luke 17:20)

The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that Christ took the kingdom from the Jews, and gave it to the church at the Coming of the Lord of the Vineyard, who is the holy nation that bears it's fruits.
(Matt 21:43, 1Peter 2:9)

The Bible,and therefore preterism, teaches that the Church is the "Israel of God" and the only heir to the promise of Abraham. (Gal 6:16)

The Bible, and therefore preterism, teaches that the true inheritance of Abraham is not earthly, but the better country of Heaven. (Hebrews 11:16, 1 Peter 1:4)

The Bible, and therefore preterism, is true and correct.
 
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