Dark days ahead in America

And, I want you all to know that I "laugh" sometimes at most of the things most of you people think are such a "thing" most of the time, etc, and that are such a "major cause for concern" right now most of the times right now, etc, or are such a major major cause for concern most of the time/times in your own very puny "silly little lives" right now, etc...

So shortsighted, etc... None seeing the "bigger picture" ever, etc...

So like children, etc...

Anyway, If you want to truly become a "prepper" it means facing "real true darkness", etc, and I just don't if very many of you can really truly handle that right now, etc...

But if you think you can, then just PM me about it, OK...?

Be more than happy to discuss it with you, K...

Help you be truly ready, etc, and ready for anything, etc, OK...

God Bless!

only a sojourner said:

I am inclined to believe based on my assessment of the political situation in the US that the Democratic Party and President Biden will not be able to prevail against the obstacles arrayed against them.

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What I find astounding is that all of America’s problems are down to the American people who vote in administrations that seem hell bent on ruining the environment, depriving people of education and health care and driving down wages.

If Mr Biden can change the trend of the American Oligarchy more power to him.

durangodawood said:

Don't forget the giant meteor.

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Giant meteor can still win the election even without a recount, revote or advanced notice!

Hans Blaster said:

You can tell by the quality of the arguments.

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I will not stand by and let the fine legal reasoning of the honorable Lionel Hutz be denigrated in this manner!

chad kincham said:

Especially when Trump is inaugurated in January 2021.

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Still in the first stage, sigh, it’s going to be a long lame duck period.

chad kincham said:

The constitution says all votes have to be counted on Election Day, not Election Day plus the day after and the day after that.

By midnight at the end of election day, Trump had won by 700,000 votes in just one of the five contested states, by 200,000 in another, etc.

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Irrelevant. Let me phrase it in a way that the right wing can understand : All Vote Matter.

The five states suddenly stopped counting votes at midnight, waited until a huge 4 AM drop of ballots with no chain of custody or origin showed up

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There's no reason to believe this.

Republicans won every single house seat that was up for election

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This is false.

There’s so much statistical proof of voter fraud, it’s amazing.

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None of which is actually presented here.

They’ve found computer software used in thirty states with a 3% bias towards Biden for all vote counts entered.

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There's no reason to believe this.

They recently found 132,000 ineligible Biden votes in the state Biden leads by 10,000 votes.

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A state which apparently doesn't have a name.

The election fraud is already starting to unravel.

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True, the courts have consistently rejected the idea of election fraud due to a lack of evidence for Donald's claims.

BTW the MSM is in on the scam, declaring Biden the winner when five states are still counting votes.

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More than 5 states are still counting votes.

Erik Nelson said:

Are you inviting them to your white picket fence & long cold glass of lemonade ?

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Sweet tea.

chad kincham said:

The fact is, I watched the election on November 3rd, and by midnight Trump had won re-election by a huge landslide.

I’ll let General Flynn’s lawyer relate the election fraud that occurred the next day in five states, and her prediction that Trump will get recounts and remain president.

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You failed civics, huh?

I wonder...

What percentage of CF members predicting calamity for America are praying against it? I hear a lot of omens. But when you're standing against evil you don't spend the day discussing it. You're warring against it in prayer and fasting. If the majority of the warfare is talk; I question the validity of these claims. It doesn't add up.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

Hans Blaster said:

When is election day? Well congress has passed a law (3 US Code 1):

The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.

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Tuesday was *Election Day* the day by which votes for slates of electors must be cast. It is not "Vote Counting Completion" day. The votes are counted when the votes are counted.

I've been watching vote counting and tabulation in the states I've lived in for 40 years. Vote counting in those states has *NEVER* been completed by midnight on election day. Not once, ever.

The states have until mid-December to complete counting the votes, certify the elections and appoint the electors that actually vote for President.

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You should have also included the very next sentence of 3 US Code 1:

Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.

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IOW, if the State fails to complete the election on that prescribed day...oh, well. The State can then do it later, as the State legislature directs.

Folks forget that these laws were written at a time of a very weak federal government that didn't have the power to dictate how states ran their internal affairs, such as making their state decision (because the Constitution frames it as a state decision) of who their state wanted as president.

I'm not so pessimistic.

For the most important social issues, legislation is already in place, since the Supreme Court interprets sex discrimination as including LGBT. Legislation isn't really all the useful for abortion, since that's a state issue.

The main areas where a Republican Senate will cause challenges are economic. I'm pretty sure that in the end Republicans will have to accept reasonable levels of stimulus. The main problem will be that we'll be saddled for the moment with Trump's crazy tax cut. That's a big problem long-term, but we can live with it for a few years.

I'd like to see more action on health, but simply promoting the ACA and running it properly would be a good start, and that doesn't need Congress.

I have no idea what Biden is going to do about immigration, but the Supreme Court has been pretty clear that the president has wide latitude on that issue, so it will be Biden's problem.

RDKirk said:

You should have also included the very next sentence of 3 US Code 1:
IOW, if the State fails to complete the election on that prescribed day...oh, well. The State can then do it later, as the State legislature directs.
Folks forget that these laws were written at a time of a very weak federal government that didn't have the power to dictate how states ran their internal affairs, such as making their state decision (because the Constitution frames it as a state decision) of who their state wanted as president.

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Comrades! The President wipes his golf clubs with your silly laws.

bèlla said:

I wonder...

What percentage of CF members predicting calamity for America are praying against it? I hear a lot of omens. But when you're standing against evil you don't spend the day discussing it. You're warring against it in prayer and fasting. If the majority of the warfare is talk; I question the validity of these claims. It doesn't add up.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

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I absolutely think there's a time and place for discussion of these things. And one place would be a discussion forum. As for the time, our national transition is a natural moment to stand back and take stock. This applies to both optimistic and pessimistic outlooks. In a time of uncertainly we typically want to see if other people will corroborate our sense of the direction of human affairs.

Desk trauma said:

I will not stand by and let the fine legal reasoning of the honorable Lionel Hutz be denigrated in this manner!

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Trump's legal team in action:

Desk trauma said:

I will not stand by and let the fine legal reasoning of the honorable Lionel Hutz be denigrated in this manner!

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Oh they wish they'd hired Lionel Hutz, Esq. Unfortunately he was a casualty of the Bowling Green Massacre. RIP.

only a sojourner said:

It is realistic to believe that MConnell and the Republican Party will continue to resist Democratic Party legislation.

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Oh dear! There will be unemployment, economic stagnation, Corona Virus, confusion...

AND Republican Senators "will continue to resist Democratic Party legislation." !!! Please. Not that, too!

RDKirk said:

You should have also included the very next sentence of 3 US Code 1:

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USCode said:

Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.

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RDKirk said:

IOW, if the State fails to complete the election on that prescribed day...oh, well. The State can then do it later, as the State legislature directs.

Folks forget that these laws were written at a time of a very weak federal government that didn't have the power to dictate how states ran their internal affairs, such as making their state decision (because the Constitution frames it as a state decision) of who their state wanted as president.

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The "election for the purpose of choosing electors" is what happened last week (ended on Tuesday).

The "day prescribed by law" is the last date for the electors to be named. It is a few days before the electoral votes are cast and is in early *December*. If a state can't get it's act together to determine the winner of the election for electors (the thing that just happened) then an alternative (non-public election) means of selecting them can occur. This deadline is *exactly* what was driving the timing and final decision in the Bush v. Gore case of 2000 that ended the Florida recount.

If there are no certified results of Tuesday's election in a few weeks then we can worry about this part of the law. I have not heard of a single state that will not certify by the end of the month. This gives time for the formal canvas of the results which will start happening this week in many states, and any possible recount. (If Trump insists, the Wisconsin recount would start later this week I believe.)

Albion said:

Oh dear! There will be unemployment, economic stagnation, Corona Virus, confusion...

AND Republican Senators "will continue to resist Democratic Party legislation." !!! Please. Not that, too!

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I think you need different verbs. Either the present tense "There is unempl..." or one that indicates an ongoing state "There will continue to be unempl..."

Cheers,

Grammar police aux. #243

RDKirk said:

You should have also included the very next sentence of 3 US Code 1:



IOW, if the State fails to complete the election on that prescribed day...oh, well. The State can then do it later, as the State legislature directs.

Folks forget that these laws were written at a time of a very weak federal government that didn't have the power to dictate how states ran their internal affairs, such as making their state decision (because the Constitution frames it as a state decision) of who their state wanted as president.

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Yes, if the states have failed to complete the election by Dec 8, "Safe Harbor" Day, which is the date that states are supposed to have certified the results of Election Day. At that point, since Electors are supposed to vote on Dec. 14, then the state legislature needs to select Electors -- since the election wasn't completed on time.