Trump pursues litigation to overturn election results

Hazelelponi said:

Lol.. I'm not "getting off the Trump train" because it's not a "train" I was on.

I voted for Trump in the primaries and the 2016 and 2020 elections because I both felt he would make a good president and I liked the job he did as president.

I supported his presidency as a constituent and periodically spoke out in favor of him online.

That's not a position I'll ever deny, not apologize for having. I have a mind of my own.

I also have no issues being critical where criticism is due, as I did here.

There's no train I need to jump off of. I am an individual with a mind and thoughts of her own, thank you.

Not even my husband will tell me what to think or do since he knows I have a mind of my own and respects me so you here thinking you somehow have such a right is quite shocking really.

I have a God and a Saviour, and a husband... none of them carry your name.

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I am very, very glad that I don't have or carry the, or any kind of name of either your God or your Savior or your husband, etc, cause I'm most definitely not trying to be any one of those things for you or to you at all, etc...

And my response wasn't just for you personally, but was more a response to all also, etc...

But about Trump, what do really think personally about him going this certain way and road and route right now that he says he is going to take or go down, etc...?

And what do you "really think about it", etc...?

You already said you wouldn't think very highly of someone like Biden doing it, so does any of this in any kind of way change any of your kinds of views at all on or about Trump at all right now, etc...?

God Bless!

Mountainmanbob said:

Sometimes there will be a payback.
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Then I hope Trump only gets a payback of only all of that which he has sown, etc...

God Bless!

Hazelelponi said:

Honestly, and you know I've always been a Trump supporter, but I don't know what Trump thinks he gains by rallies...

I fully understand the court challenges, it's certainly the right of anyone in close elections, especially one such as this that had so many changes just prior to an election and so much appearance of fraud.

But I wouldn't go down the rally route with it... I don't see where the gain is, if any at all.

Had Biden done that I would have criticized the action, for real. And I feel I should be the same with Trump, this gains nothing but to ramp up emotion. Right now, that's not exactly positive for us as a nation.

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Neither side got what was expected in the election. The Democrats didn't get the blue wave that was expected by polling data and the usual history of unpopular incumbants, probably because they underestimated how polarized and toxic the political rhetoric in this country has become.

Well, you know how I said there was only one reason and one reason only that he (Trump) could be doing this or going down this route for, etc...?

Well, I guess I have to say there are "two possible reasons", etc, and the first one could be just that he already just full well knows that he has no evidence at all whatsoever, but only just baseless suspicions and accusations only, etc, and then the other one could be the one that I basically just already said or mentioned, or already implied or alluded to anyway, and that is basically just to take all of America down to hell if he can, and then also in the process to take as many individual people as he can with him down to hell also with him also, basically, etc...

And it's more probably a little bit of "both", etc...

And he probably will not rest until it is done, and is all done, etc...

God Bless!

Mountainmanbob said:

Trump to revive campaign-style rallies as he pursues litigation to overturn election results

According a report by Axios and confirmed by Fox News, Trumps’ campaign plans to take a less traditional path to challenge the results of the election, including holding “a series of Trump rallies” focused on the campaign's ongoing legal efforts in numerous states across the country.

Along with the rallies, Trump is also planning to use obituaries of people who allegedly voted but are dead as evidence of the voter fraud he's been claiming. The campaign is also sending recount teams Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania, with Rep. Doug Collins, R-Ga., heading up the effort in the Peach State. CLICK HERE FOR MORE ON OUR TOP STORY.

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Sounds like a farewell tour. It won’t accomplish much but he’ll have thousands of adoring fans come out and it’s a good opportunity to fleece them for some quick cash flow coming out of his failed election bid.

What a sad and pathetic man.

wing2000 said:

“If Republicans don't challenge and change the U.S. election system, there will never be another Republican president elected again.”
-Lindsay Graham

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Lindsay Graham was a follower of John McCain and after the latter's death he became a follower of Trump. I doubt that he has an original thought. And Ted Cruz is similar.

wing2000 said:

...you mean "improvements" to ensure a shrinking GOP wins?

“If Republicans don't challenge and change the U.S. election system, there will never be another Republican president elected again.”
-Lindsay Graham

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What I don’t get is why no one is saying the house and senate races are disputed and should be recounted when they are on the same supposedly fraudulent ballots that were cast for the presidential race. Funny how none of these senators are saying that about their own wins. Only Trump’s loss is being disputed.

Neogaia777 said:

You already said you wouldn't think very highly of someone like Biden doing it, so does any of this in any kind of way change any of your kinds of views at all on or about Trump at all right now, etc...?

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As I've already said, I don't believe holding rallies and ramping up emotion is a positive thing right now. I see no benefit in it whatsoever.

That will never change the fact I would vote for him again today, if an election be held because I agree with the policies he backed.

But its policies I base my decision making on where concerns voting, not the man.

As far as other reasons Trump may want to hold rallies is just to make sure he keeps the support of his constituency should he win these court battles, and the other is that this is part of a now expanded "brand"... There will be plenty of books to sell when this is over and the like....

Neither of those however I find to be good reasons to hold rallies, (because I do find it doubtful that Trump will win cases across the board - he may win one or two, but winning them all to take the win will be more of a miraculous feat) but to Trump they may be good reasons.

I do think, however, that it no longer matters who is in office, the road ahead of us isn't a good one.

GoldenBoy89 said:

What I don’t get is why no one is saying the house and senate races are disputed and should be recounted when they are on the same supposedly fraudulent ballots that were cast for the presidential race. Funny how none of these senators are saying that about their own wins. Only Trump’s loss is being disputed.

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So far... why would you start a case first instead of waiting to see what the winning, or losing argument might be?

The presidential candidate always has more money for these kinds of challenges.

KCfromNC said:

What fraud are you talking about?

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The only fraud I can see is the current lame duck in the White House.

Mountainmanbob said:

Sometimes there will be a payback.
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Trump is beginning to get his.

mukk_in said:

If anyone can return the electoral system to what it's supposed to be from the current fraud ridden systems, it's Trump, sir. I doubt if he'll wash the tainted system clean in two months, but future Republicans should benefit, IMO.

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The fraud-ridden system by which nearly all other Republicans won their races?

RDKirk said:

The fraud-ridden system by which nearly all other Republicans won their races?

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Yes! That one, LOL.

Mountainmanbob said:

to take a less traditional path to challenge the results of the election, including holding “a series of Trump rallies” focused on the campaign's ongoing legal efforts in numerous states across the country.

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i.e. let's stir people up and see how many death threats we can get them to send to election officials

Here is the thing guys .. those of us voted for Biden ( democrat or others) .. we expected that Trump will not accept the result .. so there is nothing surprising here. I didn’t expect GOP lawmaker to stand up to Trump either and accept the election. This is not good for the country but “It is what it is” . I did hope that more then 2 sitting GOP US Senators would accept the result. But that’s ok.. we knew this will happen. As I wrote in the past , Trump can throw all the tantrum but on Jan 20, 2021 it all will be over. I suspect Tweeter will ban Trump from Tweeter after Jan 20 so only platform where he can scream is Fox news.

As others pointed out.. GOP politician doesn’t expect part of the election result , their individual result where they are re-elected .. they have no problem with those result.

Hazelelponi said:

So far... why would you start a case first instead of waiting to see what the winning, or losing argument might be?

The presidential candidate always has more money for these kinds of challenges.

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Forget starting a case. They’re not even disputing their results.

GoldenBoy89 said:

Forget starting a case. They’re not even disputing their results.

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I've honestly not been watching the news... so I haven't heard.

From AP election reporting, the result that is in is 48 dem seats that are called and 48 republican seats called...

That means there are still undecided seats yet which means we don't know if some of these will be fought on the legal front... my assumption is some of those are in states being contested.

Tiberius Lee said:

Here is the thing guys .. those of us voted for Biden ( democrat or others) .. we expected that Trump will not accept the result .. so there is nothing surprising here. I didn’t expect GOP lawmaker to stand up to Trump either and accept the election. This is not good for the country but “It is what it is” . I did hope that more then 2 sitting GOP US Senators would accept the result. But that’s ok.. we knew this will happen. As I wrote in the past , Trump can throw all the tantrum but on Jan 20, 2021 it all will be over. I suspect Tweeter will ban Trump from Tweeter after Jan 20 so only platform where he can scream is Fox news.

As others pointed out.. GOP politician doesn’t expect part of the election result , their individual result where they are re-elected .. they have no problem with those result.

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Kind of like how the dems refused for 4 years to accept the result of the last election you mean?

It's hard to argue the moral ground when your entire party are hypocrites...

Once this plays out in court, I will at least accept Biden is president should it go in his favor - where it goes from there in this nation is anyone's guess, but to say we are a divided nation is putting it mildly. We haven't been this divided since the civil war.

Hazelelponi said:

Honestly, and you know I've always been a Trump supporter, but I don't know what Trump thinks he gains by rallies...

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I could be wrong, and and being pro Trump as well, I think the whole thing may be fruitless. It's that never give up attitude I like him for, but I'm afraid, that same attitude also sometimes causes him problems.

Still, l wish him the best of luck with the recounts.