We Are In The Laodicea Church Age

Gifts From Above said:

Revival was taking place in America and the Methodist movement was sweeping the land.

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It's an American appeal I guess.

I just don't see it as a golden age.

People became too reliant on these area of affect revivals brought about and the addiction to them lead to the pentecostalism and the charismatic revivals which also had an area of effect but not the same impact.

People following the same phenomenon out of the faith went into the occult and new age.

The message for today I find is from:
Rev3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

No offense but this has to be one of the most idiotic theories I've ever heard.

Gifts From Above said:

It’s actually very historical. Philadelphia was the original capital of the United States.

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The Church of Philadelphia in Revelation would be in modern Turkey.
There is no obvious connection between Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

I assume that you know this.

Gifts From Above said:

The general consensus among people who believe in the Seven Church Age doctrine is that the apostle Paul was the messenger to the Ephesus Church Age and that the timeframe was around AD 33 - 170.

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Well teh 7 letters to teh seven churches have three distinct meanings.
1. direct letters to those churches
2. Seven attitudes of believers in all ages.
3. Trend that generally describes the church in a particular time frame within the church age.

Biggest cue to let us know this is the meaning of the name of each church.
1. Ephesus (beloved) apostolic church 30-100AD
2.Smyrna (bitter) persecuted by Rome church 100-313 AD
3. Pergamum (thoroughly married) Age of Constantine church-state wed 303-606 AD
4.Thyatira (perpetual sacrifice) dark ages church 606-1517AD
5. Sardis (those escaping) reformation church 1517-1648 AD
6. Philadelphia (brotherly love) missions church 1648-1900 Ad
7. Laodecia (people rule) age of apostasy 1900-present

Each "age" is marked by a specific and "big" event in the history of the church age.

Gifts From Above said:

I am a firm believer in the 7 Church Age theory. I believe that we are currently in the Laodicea Church Age. If I am correct about this then Jesus will return very soon.

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7 church 'theory'. As that is all it is. Nothing more.

The way I would see the ages...

Ephesus - Messianic - Beginning with the Apostle to the circumcision, Peter.
Smyrna - Gentile Persecuted Church - Beginning with the Apostle to the uncircumcision, Paul.
Pergamos - Orthodoxy formed in this time... Pergos is a tower... Needed in the dark ages
Thyatira - Catholicism formed in this time - The spirit of Jezebel is to control and to dominate.
Sardis - Protestantism formed in this time- A sardius is a gem - elegant yet hard and rigid
Philadelphia - Wesleyism formed in this time - To be sanctioned is to acquire it with love.
Laodicea - Charismatic movement formed in this time - Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?

And in the following article someone believes in it just like I do!

Laodicea: Lukewarm and Laid-Back
Laodicea is a study in contrasts. From history, we learn that Laodicea was a proud and prosperous city, yet it played only a minor role in the spread of Greek culture. Its imposing fortifications gave the appearance of strength and promoted a feeling of security, yet its valley location and its exposed water supply made the city quite vulnerable. Laodicea was a banking center with a strong sense of independence. This independent attitude is reflected in its name, which in Greek means "the people decide" or "the people judge" (see Strong's Exhaustive Concordance). The Laodicean era describes the condition of the Church of God just before the return of Jesus Christ. It is not a pretty picture. Perhaps this is why some try to deny that these seven churches represent seven historical eras—understanding this truth may make some Laodiceans uncomfortable!

The charge against the Laodiceans is their lukewarm attitude (Revelation 3:16). Their wealth and prosperity fosters an attitude of worldliness. They are lukewarm about the Truth, obedience to the commandments and their mission to preach the Gospel. They are very independent, and have "need of nothing" (Revelation 3:17). Laodicea had a medical school noted for its eye-salve, yet the Bible describes its people as blind to their own spiritual condition. Intellectual "sophistication" prevented them from seeing their own lack of spiritual discernment. Laodiceans produced fine black wool clothing, yet the Bible calls them naked, in need of white garments (Revelation 3:17–18). In a sense, naked Laodiceans lack vital pieces of spiritual armor—faith, love, perseverance, commitment to the Truth and godly fear of disobeying God's commandments. They may be failing to exercise the Holy Spirit (see Ephesians 6:10–19) to stand firm in times of trial and preach the Gospel with boldness.

The picture of Laodicea is of a sophisticated and self-sufficient church that trusts in its own wealth, numbers and wisdom. It appears strong, stable and unified, but it is internally divided. Its independent-minded people unknowingly reject the leadership of Jesus Christ while they do their own thing! The "democratic" (people-deciding) aspects of the Laodicean era can extend to decisions about doctrine, organization, governance, mission and methods. This lukewarm attitude is prophesied to become dominant in the Church of God at the end of the age. The lesson of Laodicea is urgent: Wake up before it is too late, and ask God to open your eyes to see your own spiritual condition—repent of complacency, compromise, materialism and stubborn independence; respond to the leadership of Jesus Christ and do not lose your reward! - Seven Lessons From Seven Churches

His name is Dr Scott Winnail and is from a place called Living Word University

So the Ephesian age only lasted 70 years, Thiatiras age lasts 900. Somehow the Pergamum age lasts 300 years even though the imperial church didn't fall till 1453. And the Laodicean age may last many millenia. I think someone needs to go back to the drawing board.

Lost4words said:

7 church 'theory'. As that is all it is. Nothing more.

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Well when one looks at teh name of the churches and then divides the church age by the big events we see, the 7 ages of the church fit like a glove!

I am extremely confident this is a message from the Lord to teach us.

Blade said:

I can understand and see how some might believe that. This is taking each Church through time right? 29 million Churches in the world. So not sure how one would apply this to every, most, some of the Church. Or maybe as a whole. I tend to look at Israel as the clock. This as I see it has always been about Israel.

And as I look at it like that Church goes home soon. For Christ to come set foot on the earth there are many things that have to take place.

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Gifts From Above said:

I am a firm believer in the 7 Church Age theory. I believe that we are currently in the Laodicea Church Age. If I am correct about this then Jesus will return very soon.

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We have been in the end times since Jesus was rressurecten and no we aren't in the end times yet not in my llifetime and I'm 20yrs plus Jesus said no one will expect him

jasonMalloy1999 said:

We have been in the end times since Jesus was rressurecten and no we aren't in the end times yet not in my llifetime and I'm 20yrs plus Jesus said no one will expect him

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Jesus told us to look for the signs and seasons that will tell us of His near approaching.

We have been in the last age since Pentecost (for teh church age is the last age of mankind)

But we have been living in the "last days" since May 14, 1948. that is when the end time prophetic clock of God was restarted so to speak.

nolidad said:

Jesus told us to look for the signs and seasons that will tell us of His near approaching.

We have been in the last age since Pentecost (for teh church age is the last age of mankind)

But we have been living in the "last days" since May 14, 1948. that is when the end time prophetic clock of God was restarted so to speak.

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Aye by iI'm nae be alive byby then

Gifts From Above said:

I am a firm believer in the 7 Church Age theory. I believe that we are currently in the Laodicea Church Age. If I am correct about this then Jesus will return very soon.

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I am having trouble making sense out of the seven periods of church age theory.

I located a source that gives the church ages as follows.





According to this list, the Reformed church corresponds to the Church at Sardis.

The Reformed Church is the time of the Protestant Reformation, the time of Martin Luther and John Calvin. I have no idea why anyone thinks the Reformed movement stopped in 1790.

When you look at Revelation, Jesus says to the Church at Sardis, "...you are dead."

This is the harshest criticism given to any of the seven churches. Even Laodicea is only said to be "lukewarm." What is the justification for calling the churches of the Protestant Reformation dead churches? To me it would make more sense to refer to the Papal church that preceded it as "dead."

Gifts From Above said:

Yes, I am well aware of that. How does that relate to what I am saying about early America and the Philadelphia Church Age?

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The problem is that you seem to be assuming a connection. Why? There's no evidence for it.