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As our Lord Jesus have admonished us:
"STRIVES to ENTER through the NARROW DOOR.
For many, I tell you, will seek to ENTER and will not be able. -Luke 13:24

How do we STRIVE ?
For this very reason, MAKE EVERY EFFORT to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, -2 Peter 1:5
and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, -2 Peter 1:6
and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. -2 Peter 1:7
For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. -2 Peter 1:8
For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins. -2 Peter 1:9

Therefore, brothers, be all the more DILIGENT TO CONFIRM your CALLING and ELECTION, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall. -2 Peter 1:10

For in this way there will be richly provided for you an ENTRANCE into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. -2 Peter 1:11

May God grant us wisdom and strength to strive to enter the NARROW GATE
Hallelujah Amen

And to add to Peter’s teaching us that in order to make our calling and election sure, we must bear fruit (by adding to our faith the things he listed), so we will never fall, and will enter heaven...

We also find that Jesus said He is the vine, we are the branches, and any branch that does not bear fruit is cut off as a dead branch, and ends up in the fire.

I’d say that bearing fruit is not optional as a believer.
 
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Yes, I understand. However it is easy to make these kinds of statements, but they seem to be made from those who do not consider that they in fact may be dammed. We do not know the fate of any human being, it is only God who sees the soul, the will, the wounds, and so many other aspects of the human person that we do not see.....including ourselves.

Actually the only people truly rebuked were those like us. We are the people of the book, we seem to think w know who is saved and who is not, and we look to behaviors that are easy to spot, so to speak. We like the Pharisees looked down on those who sin differently than perhaps we do, but ignore perhaps our own failings, or make excuses.

Jesus was very strong on Judging others:


1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Actions can be judged, but the state of the soul cannot, it is God's domain, and thank God for that.

Peace
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First of all, we have to consider all scriptures on judging, then we find Jesus never says not to judge, but to judge righteous judgment, and not hypocritically (by doing the same thing we judge another for doing).

Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Secondly we are told that it’s our job to judge those in the church, and kick out those living in sin, but not to judge
those outside the church:

1Co 5:9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people—

1Co 5:10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.

1Co 5:11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.

1Co 5:12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?

1Co 5:13 God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

Shalom.
 
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Forgive me if I am wrong but folks like you describe have never really known Him...

When you genuinely meet Him he replaces the heart of stone with a heart towards Him and His ways. Good fruit results...

I disagree. The swine is washed but then goes back to the muck and mire, etc.

Here’s a short excerpt that says it succinctly:

In view of the biblical teaching that the security of the believer depends on a living relationship with Christ (John 15:6); in view of the Bible’s call to a life of holiness (Hebrews 12:14; 1 Peter 1:16); in view of the clear teaching that a man may have his part taken out of the Book of Life (Revelation 22:19); and in view of the fact that one who believes for a while can fall away (Luke 8:13); The General Council of the Assemblies of God disapproves of the unconditional security position which holds that it is impossible for a person once saved to be lost. (Bylaws, Article IX.B.1)
 
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Except in the parable of the wedding supper of the lamb in Matthew 25, all ten were virgins, indicating being pure by faith, yet half of them don’t make it in.

The 10 virgins are not the same parable as the wedding guest without proper attire
 
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Is God's hand not mighty enough to save the bulk of His creation?

Freewill allows us to make a choice.

1/3 of the angels fell due to the wrong choice they made.

It’s about choices made, not about how many could God force to be saved, if He didn’t allow us to have freewill.
 
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Where did He say this?

Mat 7:13 "Go in through the narrow gate, because the gate to hell is wide and the road that leads to it is easy, and there are many who travel it.

Mat 7:14 But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard, and there are few people who find it.
 
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Mighty enough? Certainly. That's why I said "if God wanted to save everyone he'd certainly be able to". Is it God's goal to save the "bulk of His creation"? The Bible says no. God never intended to save the majority.

Jesus died for the sins of the world.

God offers salvation to whosoever will come.

Faith comes from hearing the word of God, then the Holy Spirit convicts of sin, and draws men unto Jesus, but man can resist the Holy Spirit.

God intends to save all who respond to the word and the Holy Spirit, and whoever receives (verb, action word, requires action) Jesus becomes a child of God John 1:12.
 
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I believe a majority of professing Christians will be saved. That's the God I worship. One who is merciful and not wanting any, be they believers or no, to perish. Not a God who will break the bruised reeds and trample the smoldering flax.

Paul makes clear that after we have been saved, there is a continuing conflict between our wanting to walk in the flesh, (that wants us to live in sin)- and our desire to walk after the Holy Spirit that now dwells in us - and Paul warns that choosing to live in sins (works of the flesh), will keep us out of heaven:
 
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Where do you get 5% from?

Oh, come on.

Pick a % number that represents FEW of 9 billion people that are on earth, tell me if John would have been able to count that high in Revelation.

The answer is no

So quoting John seeing a huge crowd he couldn’t count, does not disprove Jesus saying that only a few are saved.

5% of nine billion people is 450 million people.

So if that many showed up in a crowd, that’s more people than the entire population of the USA, which is 370 million.

Shalom.
 
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The ‘all who died in faith’ are the patriarchs of the faith, Paul was listing which includes Abraham.

It doesn’t mean, or even imply, that his descendants who are as countless as the sand on the shore, are the ALL who died in faith.

1 billion of the people who came from Abraham/Ishmael are Muslims, and Islam is an antichrist religion straight from Satan, so they certainly don’t have saving faith in Jesus.

The Koran says God has no son.

The Bible says if you don’t have the son, you don’t have the Father or Son.

Shalom.
 
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All those playing Christian try to earn salvation in their own strength, thinking their works are what gets them there, but in the end finding out they were the true fruitless workers of iniquity.

Perhaps you need to look at the list of the fruits of the spirit, before doing the usual bit of claiming that following the requirements for believers after salvation, is a work.

Shalom.
 
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Perhaps you need to look at the list of the fruits of the spirit, before doing the usual bit of claiming that following the requirements for believers after salvation, is a work.

Shalom.

I went through all this with the Lord in depth 30 years ago. I'm standing of extremely solid ground with the understanding concerning my salvation.
 
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