Not so complicated...

Douggg · Nov 6, 2020

This is nowhere near as complicated as some of you are trying to make it. Here is the walk-through of the stages of the person, the great opposer to Jesus.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

The little horn is leader of the EU, King of the Roman empire end times.

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the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

Following Gog/Magog, the prince who shall come moves his EU army into the middle east on the premise of being peace keeper in the region.

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the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

The person is perceived by the Jews to be the promised King of Israel/messiah. And will be anointed the King of Israel, but coming in his own name. Anointed the King of Israel, he confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years.

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the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

In the middle of the 7 years, the person transgresses the Mt. Sinai covenant by claiming to be God. Revealing himself to be the man of sin, and not the messiah after all. The Jews reject him from continuing as their King of Israel, ending his time as the Antichrist.

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the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

After the revealed man of sin is killed and brought back to life, he is the beast for the remainder of the 7 years. The ten EU leaders hand their kingdom over to him to be dictator, King of the Roman empire in the end times.

Tolworth John · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
This is nowhere near as complicated as some of you are trying to make it

The simple answer is Jesus is coming again.

All other explanations are overly complicated an plainly wrong.
Because no two accounts agree.

disciple Clint · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
This is nowhere near as complicated as some of you are trying to make it.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

The little horn is leader of the EU, King of the Roman empire end times.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

Following Gog/Magog, the prince who shall come moves his EU army into the middle east on the premise of being peace keeper in the region.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

The person is perceived by the Jews to be the promised King of Israel/messiah. And will be anointed the King of Israel, but coming in his own name. Anointed the King of Israel, he confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

In the middle of the 7 years, the person transgresses the Mt. Sinai covenant by claiming to be God. Revealing himself to be the man of sin, and not the messiah after all. The Jews reject him from continuing as their King of Israel, ending his time as the Antichrist.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

After the revealed man of sin is killed and brought back to life, he is the beast for the remainder of the 7 years. The ten EU leaders hand their kingdom over to him to be dictator, King of the Roman empire in the end times.

or maybe this is the answer Chapter 19. Antichrist - Dispensational Truth - Study Resources

Douggg · Nov 6, 2020

disciple Clint said:
or maybe this is the answer Chapter 19. Antichrist - Dispensational Truth - Study Resources

That link makes the almost universal mistake of using the Antichrist term in blanket fashion.

the great opposer - blanket term

I use a different blanket term for the person.

the great opposer to Jesus. Being the Antichrist is just one stage of the person on his way to eternal destruction in the lake of fire.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

Timtofly · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
That link makes the almost universal mistake of using the Antichrist term in blanket fashion.

the great opposer - blanket term

I use a different blanket term for the person.

the great opposer to Jesus. Being the Antichrist is just one stage of the person on his way to eternal destruction in the lake of fire.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

How is Adversary and Great Opposer not the same being?

This angel has Opposed God and acted as an Adversary ever since God Created the Garden of Eden and placed Adam in the Garden/Paradise.

Paul said angels can appear in human form and walk among us. Satan is not an exception to the rule. Satan is the "man of sin", who hates the whole Torah, including Genesis. Satan is exposed early on as an Adversary and Opposer of God’s Word. "Did God really say that?" is his favorite catch phrase. "We should leave Revelation alone, it is too symbolic, God is not really going to judge the world", comes from Satan as well. Satan wants us to ignore the first book and the last book about the days we are currently living in. Genesis gives us the story of Noah and Lot. Jesus said this time would be just like Noah and Lot's time.

Douggg · Nov 6, 2020

Timtofly said:
How is Adversary and Great Opposer not the same being?

This angel has Opposed God and acted as an Adversary ever since God Created the Garden of Eden and placed Adam in the Garden/Paradise.

Paul said angels can appear in human form and walk among us. Satan is not an exception to the rule. Satan is the "man of sin", who hates the whole Torah, including Genesis. Satan is exposed early on as an Adversary and Opposer of God’s Word. "Did God really say that?" is his favorite catch phrase. "We should leave Revelation alone, it is too symbolic, God is not really going to judge the world", comes from Satan as well. Satan wants us to ignore the first book and the last book about the days we are currently living in. Genesis gives us the story of Noah and Lot. Jesus said this time would be just like Noah and Lot's time.

I agree that Adversary is a referral to Satan. Differently the Great Opposer (it's a term I invented to get away from the error of using "the Antichrist" in blanket fashion) is a man.

At Jesus's return, Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit.

Differently the Great Opposer, as the beast at that time, will be cast alive into the lake of fire.

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Actually in Genesis, the one who's catch phrase is "Did God really say that?" was the serpent beast. Of course as an agent for Satan.

In Revelation 17:8a the one currently in the bottomless pit who will ascend out of it (as a disembodied spirit), is imo the garden of eden serpent.

What was the essence of his spiel - that man could become a god.

I am fairly convinced that the spiel of the great opposer, after he becomes the beast, in getting people to worship him is that they also can become gods.

BABerean2 · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
At Jesus's return, Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit.

Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to open the bottomless pit in the passage below, if the pit was not locked previously?

Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Rev 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

Why does the beast "ascend" out of the bottomless pit in Revelation 11?

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Timtofly · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
Actually in Genesis, the one who's catch phrase is "Did God really say that?" was the serpent beast. Of course as an agent for Satan.

In Revelation 17:8a the one currently in the bottomless pit who will ascend out of it (as a disembodied spirit), is imo the garden of eden serpent.

What was the essence of his spiel - that man could become a god.

I am fairly convinced that the spiel of the great opposer, after he becomes the beast, in getting people to worship him is that they also can become gods.

Not according to Revelation 20:2

2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan [the Adversary], and chained him up for a thousand years.

They are the same angel turned into a beast.

Spiritual Jew · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
This is nowhere near as complicated as some of you are trying to make it.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

The little horn is leader of the EU, King of the Roman empire end times.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

Following Gog/Magog, the prince who shall come moves his EU army into the middle east on the premise of being peace keeper in the region.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

The person is perceived by the Jews to be the promised King of Israel/messiah. And will be anointed the King of Israel, but coming in his own name. Anointed the King of Israel, he confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

In the middle of the 7 years, the person transgresses the Mt. Sinai covenant by claiming to be God. Revealing himself to be the man of sin, and not the messiah after all. The Jews reject him from continuing as their King of Israel, ending his time as the Antichrist.

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

After the revealed man of sin is killed and brought back to life, he is the beast for the remainder of the 7 years. The ten EU leaders hand their kingdom over to him to be dictator, King of the Roman empire in the end times.

You are talking about some "revealed man of sin" being killed and resurrected? Resurrected by who? Only God can resurrect the dead.

Douggg · Nov 6, 2020

Spiritual Jew said:
You are talking about some "revealed man of sin" being killed and resurrected? Resurrected by who? Only God can resurrect the dead.

Yes, it will be God who brings the person back to life, as the strong delusion that God sends to them who believe his initial claim of having achieved god-hood.

2Thessalonians2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

It is in Ezekiel 28:1-10 that God has the person killed for his audacious act of 2Thessalonians2:4.

Then after the person finds his soul in hell, God in disdain for him because the person will be a Jew, who sells out to Satan, and his betrayal to the Jewish people results in destroying his land and his people - God brings the person back to life, to go into peridition, the lake of fire at Jesus's return.

Isaiah 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Spiritual Jew · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
Yes, it will be God who brings the person back to life, as the strong delusion that God sends to them who believe his initial claim of having achieved god-hood.

2Thessalonians2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

I believe that is wild speculation. Nowhere did Paul say anything about "the man of sin" dying and being resurrected or even hint at that. Plus, he wasn't even talking about an individual man of sin but of sinful man in general (opposite of "the man of God" in 1 Timothy 3:16-17). I know you can't accept that, so I won't waste my time trying to convince you.

Douggg · Nov 6, 2020

Timtofly said:
Not according to Revelation 20:2

2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan [the Adversary], and chained him up for a thousand years.

They are the same angel turned into a beast.

Satan in Revelation 20:1-3 will be cast into the bottomless pit for a thousand years.

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

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Differently, the beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire at that time.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Douggg · Nov 6, 2020

Spiritual Jew said:
I believe that is wild speculation. Nowhere did Paul say anything about "the man of sin" dying and being resurrected or even hint at that. Plus, he wasn't even talking about an individual man of sin but of sinful man in general (opposite of "the man of God" in 1 Timothy 3:16-17). I know you can't accept that, so I won't waste my time trying to convince you.

Paul was not presented Revelation, but John.

Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

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The way to understand the end times is to start building a portfolio of verses that involve that person. And to track the progression of his activity from his emergence to his end when he is cast alive into the lake of fire.

A graph of the end times is helpful in this effort. Spiritual Jew, have you made a chart of the end times events, yet?

And putting the stages of his activity in a line like this... of who I am calling...

the great opposer to Jesus (as a blanket term for the person)

the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

Timtofly · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
Yes, it will be God who brings the person back to life, as the strong delusion that God sends to them who believe his initial claim of having achieved god-hood.

2Thessalonians2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

It is in Ezekiel 28:1-10 that God has the person killed for his audacious act of 2Thessalonians2:4.

Then after the person finds his soul in hell, God in disdain for him because the person will be a Jew, who sells out to Satan, and his betrayal to the Jewish people results in destroying his land and his people - God brings the person back to life, to go into peridition, the lake of fire at Jesus's return.

Isaiah 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Isaiah is about Satan being bound in sheol. Satan is not the beast that was, was not, yet is. Satan is the beast out of the land. The FP is the one out of the nations, who was, was not, yet is. Satan will not be bound until after the 42 months, so Isaiah 14 happens after the battle of Armageddon.

Timtofly · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
Satan in Revelation 20:1-3 will be cast into the bottomless pit for a thousand years.

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

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Differently, the beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire at that time.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Did you miss the point, Satan was that ancient serpent? The only name left out was Lucifer. Lucifer was the created angel name. God will not give that name back to Satan, nor use it again, it seems.

Douggg · Nov 6, 2020

Timtofly said:
Isaiah is about Satan being bound in sheol. Satan is not the beast that was, was not, yet is. Satan is the beast out of the land. The FP is the one out of the nations, who was, was not, yet is. Satan will not be bound until after the 42 months, so Isaiah 14 happens after the battle of Armageddon.

Part of Isaiah 14 is about Satan. Isaiah 14:12-14. However, in Isaiah 14:15 it transitions to the revealed man of sin - who will have sold out to Satan, and Satan having entered him to carry out the act of betrayal to the Jewish people - which 2Thessalonians2:3-4 refers to the person as the son of perdition (similar to Judas who betrayed Jesus as Satan entered him to carry out the act).

Isaiah 14:15-20 is about the slain revealed man of sin (which is in Ezekiel 28:1-10)....

Ezekiel 28:7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.

8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

Isiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; [the terrible of the nations in Ezekiel 28:7]

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

It is not talking about Satan because Satan does not have his land and slain his own people - but is instead talking about the great opposer to Jesus. The great opposer to Jesus, who had, before going in to the temple, sitting, claiming to be God will have been the King of Israel messiah, but coming in his own name (the Antichrist).

the great opposer to Jesus
the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

Douggg · Nov 6, 2020

Timtofly said:
Did you miss the point, Satan was that ancient serpent? The only name left out was Lucifer. Lucifer was the created angel name. God will not give that name back to Satan, nor use it again, it seems.

In Revelation 12, Satan (the dragon) is called that old serpent, indicating his roots in deceiving man goes all the back to the garden of eden event.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

In Revelation 17:8, the scarlet color beast is shown to have a connection to two principle agents who sell out to him.

1. In Revelation 17:8a, the beast currently in the bottomless pit - the serpent who was in the garden of eden. Who was and is not, and someday will ascend out of the bottomless pit.

2. In 17:8b, the end times great opposer to Jesus, who the world will see killed, but comes back to life a few days later. Who was, is not, yet is.

One of the things about the revealed man of sin when he is killed, in Ezekiel 28:8-10, he finds his soul in hell, Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

To the sides of the pit, seems to indicate that the (bottomless) pit is nearby. And that is where is the garden of eden serpent (in spirit form) now is.

So when the person is brought back to life, his soul cast out of hell by God, it is then that the spirit of the serpent is allowed to come out of the pit to possess him.

Here are a couple of illustrations I made of my view of what will happen....

Timtofly · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
Part of Isaiah 14 is about Satan. Isaiah 14:12-14. However, in Isaiah 14:15 it transitions to the revealed man of sin - who will have sold out to Satan, and Satan having entered him to carry out the act of betrayal to the Jewish people - which 2Thessalonians2:3-4 refers to the person as the son of perdition (similar to Judas who betrayed Jesus as Satan entered him to carry out the act).

Isaiah 14:15-20 is about the slain revealed man of sin (which is in Ezekiel 28:1-10)....

Ezekiel 28:7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.

8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

Isiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; [the terrible of the nations in Ezekiel 28:7]

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

It is not talking about Satan because Satan does not have his land and slain his own people - but is instead talking about the great opposer to Jesus. The great opposer to Jesus, who had, before going in to the temple, sitting, claiming to be God will have been the King of Israel messiah, but coming in his own name (the Antichrist).

the great opposer to Jesus
the little horn>prince who shall come>the Antichrist>the revealed man of sin>the beast

Satan cannot enter a person. The closest thing is Satan breathing life into the image. Satan gives life to the image and calls the image the "Messiah". That is the closest thing to an Antichrist, John mentions, and John knows his antichrist really well, because he claims there were many in the early church. You call this image being, the great opposer, but John only calls it a beast. That is about as much as John thinks about Satan's "messiah".

Well Satan was over all the nations, so it is "his land" and his "people". Satan was a new "god" to the Greeks when he presented himself to them. Satan was Marduk the god of the Babylonia creation epic. Satan reinvented himself to the Greeks under a new title and form. The Greeks already knew about the Babylonian pantheon. Satan never really did much. He just deceived the nations into thinking he could do things. Satan never really comes across as a dictator, not even in Job.

Satan can put thoughts into our mind. We do not have to act on them. On the contrary, we have God’s power for demolishing strongholds. We demolish arguments and every arrogance that raises itself up against the knowledge of God; we take every thought captive and make it obey the Messiah. Jesus rebuked Satan speaking through Peter. Judas listened to Satan's thoughts, and carried out the plan. Was God using Satan to use Judas? Did Satan think he was getting away with something? Judas changed heart, after it was too late and killed himself. Satan destroyed Judas' life, no?

Timtofly · Nov 6, 2020

Douggg said:
In Revelation 12, Satan (the dragon) is called that old serpent, indicating his roots in deceiving man goes all the back to the garden of eden event.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

In Revelation 17:8, the scarlet color beast is shown to have a connection to two principle agents who sell out to him.

1. In Revelation 17:8a, the beast currently in the bottomless pit - the serpent who was in the garden of eden. Who was and is not, and someday will ascend out of the bottomless pit.

2. In 17:8b, the end times great opposer to Jesus, who the world will see killed, but comes back to life a few days later. Who was, is not, yet is.

One of the things about the revealed man of sin when he is killed, in Ezekiel 28:8-10, he finds his soul in hell, Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

To the sides of the pit, seems to indicate that the (bottomless) pit is nearby. And that is where is the garden of eden serpent (in spirit form) now is.

So when the person is brought back to life, his soul cast out of hell by God, it is then that the spirit of the serpent is allowed to come out of the pit to possess him.

Here are a couple of illustrations I made of my view of what will happen...

Satan can come and go freely. Isaiah 14 is addressing the whole history of Satan. The only time Satan is bound and can do nothing is in the coming Millennium, the Lord's Day. The FP is not mentioned in Isaiah 14, but is the first beast addressed by both Daniel and John. Daniel does not address the second beast. Other than the god the Greeks thought they did not know. Daniel does not address Marduk, because that was the Babylonians of the 21st century, not the 6th century captivity. The leader of the 21st century was Nimrod. Now it is over 2500 years since Daniel and Satan introducing himself to the Greeks as a new god. That is why Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2, says Satan was already at work deceiving the Greeks and Romans. After the Cross, Satan had no need to camp out in Jerusalem. He moved to Rome. Satan was the one who convinced Titus to destroy all evidence of God's people in Jerusalem. Christ was gone and the 7 year covenant was on hold until the second coming. Satan could do nothing about the new church full in the power of the Holy Spirit. But he kept sending wave after wave of false teachers and antichrist into the church. It took awhile but the harlot came eventually, and the rest is history.

Douggg · Nov 6, 2020

Timtofly said:
Satan cannot enter a person. The closest thing is Satan breathing life into the image. Satan gives life to the image and calls the image the "Messiah".

I can agree that when Satan entered Judas, it could be speaking metaphorically.

I don't think the image of the beast will be called the Messiah. But that the statue image of the beast comes to life and speaks will be because Satan incarnates the image, making it come to life and speak, but it will be a lying wonder.

Timtofly said:
Well Satan was over all the nations, so it is "his land" and his "people". Satan was a new "god" to the Greeks when he presented himself to them. Satan was Marduk the god of the Babylonia creation epic. Satan reinvented himself to the Greeks under a new title and form. The Greeks already knew about the Babylonian pantheon. Satan never really did much. He just deceived the nations into thinking he could do things. Satan never really comes across as a dictator, not even in Job.

Satan will be a terror when he is cast down to earth from the second heaven having great wrath. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth.

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

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