Kentucky Police Training Quoted Hitler and Urged 'Ruthless' Violence

rambot said:

tough finding data on this actually for Canada:
Canada Police deaths: 175 over the last 45 years (so average of just over four per year...or to argue just the homocide deaths....traffic related is iffy, the rest...meh just over 2/year)
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/mani...ian-police-homicides-by-the-numbers-1.4781581

US police deaths:
The Number Of U.S. Police Officers Killed In The Line Of Duty Increased Last Year [Infographic]

55 deaths
Given your population is 10x ours, I gotta say, it's not like your data is ABSOLUTELY SHOCKINGLY out of control.

How did you come to that number? You've quoted it several times now but I don't recall reading where you got it?
Besides, how would you define that? Is George Floyd a life and death struggle? Some would argue yes. I would say.....hahaha....incorrect.

Also, you remember this beauty?
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The social worker talking to his client who had a TOY gun...lying on his back with his hands in the air, STILL managed to get shot by police.
You'll be (I hope) upset to learn that the shooting policeman just got off with little more than a slap and a tickle (from wikki):
In June 2019, Jonathon Aledda was retried and found not guilty on two counts of attempted manslaughter (felony charges) but guilty of culpable negligence, a misdemeanor.[50][51] He was not sentenced to prison, and was instead sentenced to one year of administrative probation, 100 hours of community service, and to write a 2,500-word essay on communication and weapon discharges. His conviction would also not appear on a criminal record due to the withholding of adjudication.[52] He was released from probation less than five months later.[53]

I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure I remember your opinion on this one was pretty much in line with mine; this was some messed up, shoddy police work.

That man is dead and the cop got probation, com. service and an essay? Not even a criminal record (which would allow him to get hired as a copy somewhere else, presumably).

How can we pretend police work in America is competent if the standard of behaviour is THAT low? I have friends who are cops up here in Canada and they were STEAMING MAD when they found out about that shooting.

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Ana the Ist said:

Many black people in many of these communities have described their own neighborhoods as warzones and have for at least the last three decades...

Chiraq | Dictionary.com

Wanna guess when police started increasing numbers and changing tactics?

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Ana the Ist said:

Oh wow....

55 dead cops doesn't mean only 55 cops faced lethal danger....

They get into at least between 900 and 1000 justified shootings a year. A small number of those are people trying to kill civilians and I'm trying to be generous and leave room for a small number of bad police and human error....and frankly, I'm not even counting all the times they get into a gunfight where a suspect gives up before someone gets killed or someone is shot and injured and that ends it....

So it's a really really generous number....it would probably be in the low thousands.

Did you honestly believe that by looking at how many cops were killed you would understand how often their lives were in danger? Clearly the vast majority of the time that's true....the cops survive. How did you think those outcomes were achieved? Maybe training?

Have you been lied to about the dangers of policing in the US? I wonder who did that...

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rambot said:

Dude. Justified shootings.
Look at the example I gave. Forgive me for disagreeing with what constitutes a justifiable shooting in the us.

Also..still no source for that number?

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Ana the Ist said:

You can find the number anywhere from various sources to the WaPo ....I'd like to tell you that we know the exact number, but we don't.

As for justified shootings, your example doesn't count. They charged him with a crime, they didn't consider that a justified shooting. If they charged him with manslaughter I can promise, they thought they could convict.

If you really want to look at justified shootings....look at all of them. I'm pretty sure WaPo keeps a list of every one with links to every article.

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Trogdor the Burninator said:

Being policed as a black person before 30 years ago wasn't exactly sweetness and light either. And if your only solution is more force and more brutality, all you're going to get is more dead cops.

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rambot said:

You don't recognize how hard you ride people for believing and giving credibility to anecdotal stories and then you make up numbers?

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