I believe only a few Christians will go to Heaven

Bible Highlighter · Nov 2, 2020

Blade said:
Amen Carl "a great multitude which no one could count,"

So who's truth are we running with? Well some Christians believe all believers are saved. Others believe only those that were PRE chosen are saved. Then all those other groups.. on and on.

So I believe the truth is.. no one knows. We get to see whats on the out side (flesh) and He sees the heart.

10 virgins.. not sure how they equal (Christians) or the 3 cross's. How do we know the other one was lost forever? Here we are talking about this. Ok so what are we going to do about it? Do we really believe in Jesus Christ as lord and He is the only way to the Father? So yes.. many care call few are chosen <--this is not every lasting life. The harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few.... where are they?

We pass people every day... do we care if they know Jesus or not? Does make me wonder if I truly love and believe in Him

Yes, it could be 1 million believers or 5 million or more. We don't know. It's not saying that the amount is so high that no person could ever count it ever. It just saying there are a lot of believers. But this would be throughout the span of all human history. We have to also believe the words of Jesus when He says narrow is the way and few be there that finds it (Matthew 7:14). Jesus was talking in context to believers and not unbelievers. For Matthew 7:21-23 makes a point against how not all believers are going to make it. It's why Luke 13:24 says we are to strive to enter in into the narrow gate.

Childofgodharrison · Nov 2, 2020

Maria Billingsley said:
This brings me to the parable of the ten virgins. Half of them were locked out of the wedding feast. So if you take that literally, only half of those who claim to be in the Body of Christ are actually in it. We can certainly see the difference with those who are led by the Spirit and those who are not by their fruits.
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Yes, you are right. Only a few will make it. There are many Churches around. These Churches are apart of the deception. This is what Paul was talking about when he was speaking to*the Corinthians. When they were saying I follow Paul, I follow Cephas. They were forming what we call denominations today. They form a congregation and make members to that particular group. There are thousands and thousands of them all around the world. The body of Christ is made up of individual people. These churches keep the members in infancy. The pastors tell them over and over again the reason they need Jesus. To the same people. The apostles in the bible moved around. Once you hear and learn of Jesus and seek him with all your heart and mind, the Holy Spirit start teaching you. When God teach you, he teach you indeed. There are some who go around teaching. They don't have Churches and live by faith. Those are true servants of God.

friend of · Nov 2, 2020

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Junia · Nov 2, 2020

Real Christians are few compared to the rest of the world, ie the unsaved. That is how I interpret it. There will be many many Christians in heaven but compared Pinterest of the world their number is few.

How many across the globe identify as christian? Christianity is not a majority faith globally

Junia · Nov 2, 2020

Llleopard said:
Yes. It's like the Tabernacle. If you are just saved, you enter into the outer court, justified. Then if you work, strive etc to put on the mind of Christ you are becoming sanctified, entering the inner court. On the day of the Lord, some will enter the Most Holy Place and be glorified. But it is clear that not all Christians will. Those left in the inner court are still saved but do not enter the full inheritance. No wonder they are weeping

Yes that is what I believe

Guojing · Nov 2, 2020

Roy Taylor said:
I wrote this about 15 years ago and still believe it.

Years of reading the bible has raised questions inside of me if I am going to heaven when I die. For instance look at this in Luke 13:
23Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 24Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

That makes me wonder if most Christians are lost. Jesus says many will seek to enter in. I would believe this is Christians because non believers are not seeking to get in.

And what about this one in Matthew 22:
2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
This has to be the church because they are bidden. Why couldn't they come?

5But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
To me it sounds like the church was not worthy for the marriage supper of the Lamb after all, so he went outside of the church and invited non Christians to the marriage. Am I understanding this correctly?
Almost reminds me of the last will come first and first will come last scripture.

Here is another one that troubles me. Matthew 7:
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
They prophesied in his name and cast out devils and many wonderful works. Isn't this the Fathers will? Or maybe they were doing it for their own ego. What is the Fathers will and how do we do it? Do they teach this in church?

Well for me, I prefer Revelation 7:9

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Mark Dohle · Nov 2, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
Jesus said narrow is the way and FEW be there that finds it (Matthew 7:14). He is just echoing what Jesus said. Paul also says we are not to have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather to reprove them (Ephesians 5:11). Paul rebuked the Corinthians, and others who were believers. Paul said we are to follow his example as Christ was his example.

Yes, I understand. However it is easy to make these kinds of statements, but they seem to be made from those who do not consider that they in fact may be dammed. We do not know the fate of any human being, it is only God who sees the soul, the will, the wounds, and so many other aspects of the human person that we do not see.....including ourselves.

Actually the only people truly rebuked were those like us. We are the people of the book, we seem to think w know who is saved and who is not, and we look to behaviors that are easy to spot, so to speak. We like the Pharisees looked down on those who sin differently than perhaps we do, but ignore perhaps our own failings, or make excuses.

Jesus was very strong on Judging others:

1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Actions can be judged, but the state of the soul cannot, it is God's domain, and thank God for that.

Peace
Mark

Bible Highlighter · Nov 2, 2020

friend of said:
@Bible Highlighter Thanks. I subscribed to Alan Ballou after watching that video. Do you know if he creates content regularly? thanks again and God bless

Your welcome. Alan has a lot of older good videos you should check out. But he does put out videos every couple of months. I have written to him before and he is a really nice brother in the Lord.

Bible Highlighter · Nov 2, 2020

Mark Dohle said:
Yes, I understand. However it is easy to make these kinds of statements, but they seem to be made from those who do not consider that they in fact may be dammed. We do not know the fate of any human being, it is only God who sees the soul, the will, the wounds, and so many other aspects of the human person that we do not see.....including ourselves.

Actually the only people truly rebuked were those like us. We are the people of the book, we seem to think w know who is saved and who is not, and we look to behaviors that are easy to spot, so to speak. We like the Pharisees looked down on those who sin differently than perhaps we do, but ignore perhaps our own failings, or make excuses.

Jesus was very strong on Judging others:

1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Actions can be judged, but the state of the soul cannot, it is God's domain, and thank God for that.

Peace
Mark

Well, I think you may be under the false misunderstanding that all believers commit some kind of mortal sin on a daily basis. If this is the case, then you may simply be unaware of verses like Galatians 5:24, 1 Peter 4:1-2, 2 Corinthians 7:1, etc.; If a brother or sister is abiding in sin as a way of life, we have a right to judge them and correct them. For the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God (See: 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21). Sure, a believer may confess and forsake their sin later, but we do not know that for sure. We can judge them in the present time that they sin (as long as we are living an upright walk with the Lord). Paul said do not have company with a believer who is fornicator in 1 Corinthians 5.

As for Matthew 7:1-5 that talks about judging:

Well, this is talking about hypocritical judgment and not that we cannot judge.
Jesus said we can judge righteously in John 7:24.

Proverbs 27:6 says,
“Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful”

Many in the church today believe that sin does not separate a believer from God. So there is no real purpose in correcting others. For in the popular church view: They are saved if they are abiding in sins that the Bible condemns. They think all believers sin every day. Hence, they are of the attitude of “don't judge.”

Bruce Leiter · Nov 2, 2020

Roy Taylor said:
I wrote this about 15 years ago and still believe it.

Years of reading the bible has raised questions inside of me if I am going to heaven when I die. For instance look at this in Luke 13:
23Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 24Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

That makes me wonder if most Christians are lost. Jesus says many will seek to enter in. I would believe this is Christians because non believers are not seeking to get in.

And what about this one in Matthew 22:
2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
This has to be the church because they are bidden. Why couldn't they come?

5But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
To me it sounds like the church was not worthy for the marriage supper of the Lamb after all, so he went outside of the church and invited non Christians to the marriage. Am I understanding this correctly?
Almost reminds me of the last will come first and first will come last scripture.

Here is another one that troubles me. Matthew 7:
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
They prophesied in his name and cast out devils and many wonderful works. Isn't this the Fathers will? Or maybe they were doing it for their own ego. What is the Fathers will and how do we do it? Do they teach this in church?

No, the people who refuse to enter are not Christians. The key to understanding these passages is in the last one from the Sermon on the Mount. The crowds have gathered, and Jesus says that he has never known many of them. To know someone personally in the Bible's meaning is to love them. Foreknowledge as God does in Romans 8 is "fore-loving" believers. If you have a personal relationship with Jesus and want to walk with him in close fellowship and service, you can be assured that he loves you and will be with you eternally.

Guojing · Nov 2, 2020

WrappedUpinHisLove3 said:
Real Christians are few compared to the rest of the world, ie the unsaved. That is how I interpret it. There will be many many Christians in heaven but compared Pinterest of the world their number is few.

How many across the globe identify as christian? Christianity is not a majority faith globally

Yes, even when Christ is reigning physically from Jerusalem during the 1000 year reign in the future, there will still be people who will reject him

SkyWriting · Nov 3, 2020

Roy Taylor said:
I wrote this about 15 years ago and still believe it.

Maybe you wrote it 55 years ago.

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Bible Highlighter · Nov 3, 2020

SkyWriting said:
Maybe you wrote it 55 years ago.

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Believing in Jesus is more than just believing in the person of Jesus for salvation, but it is believing everything He said, taught, and did, too. John 12:48 says if we do not receive His words, those words will judge us on the last day. For example: If we do not accept the words of Jesus in Matthew 6:15, and we did not forgive, then the Father will not forgive us. Thus we will not be saved. It's that simple. But many in popular Christianity love to either ignore or twist our Lord's words so as to justify a sin and still be saved type belief of some kind.

In other words, we are not really believing or trusting in Jesus if we are not obeying Him. Hebrews 5:9 essentially says that Jesus is the author of eternal salvation to all who OBEY Him.

ViaCrucis · Nov 3, 2020

Is God faithful in His promises?

If the answer is yes, then we can be confident that no one who has put their trust in Him shall ever be put to shame.

As far as the question of wheat and tares, that's not our business, that's His. He's the Judge.

-CryptoLutheran

FutureAndAHope · Nov 3, 2020

Roy Taylor said:
I wrote this about 15 years ago and still believe it.

Years of reading the bible has raised questions inside of me if I am going to heaven when I die. For instance look at this in Luke 13:
23Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 24Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

That makes me wonder if most Christians are lost. Jesus says many will seek to enter in. I would believe this is Christians because non believers are not seeking to get in.

And what about this one in Matthew 22:
2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
This has to be the church because they are bidden. Why couldn't they come?

5But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
To me it sounds like the church was not worthy for the marriage supper of the Lamb after all, so he went outside of the church and invited non Christians to the marriage. Am I understanding this correctly?
Almost reminds me of the last will come first and first will come last scripture.

Here is another one that troubles me. Matthew 7:
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
They prophesied in his name and cast out devils and many wonderful works. Isn't this the Fathers will? Or maybe they were doing it for their own ego. What is the Fathers will and how do we do it? Do they teach this in church?

Every church has people in it who are not saved, people who are moving away from Christ, but churches are mainly made up of the saved. I don't know what you teach, but just be careful not to be critical of the church, based upon the scriptures you have chosen.

God is longsuffering toward us all, churchgoer, and sinner alike. If a person perishes it is not due to God, not giving them ample chance to repent. It is not God making it so hard that no one can be saved, it comes down to the hardness of men's hearts to the truth.

God has been merciful to me, and drawn me to His saving grace. It is the goodness of God that draws a person to repentance. The hearts of man may be desperately hard, but it is the actual goodness found in God that will save them.

Liam Hayden · Nov 4, 2020

You have to remember the original audience to whom Jesus was speaking. This audience including those who did and would reject his Messiahship. They thought that their religious activity would get them in. In that sense, a lot of people today are in the same boat.

chad kincham · Nov 7, 2020

SeventyOne said:
All Christians will go to heaven. All those playing Chrisitan will not.

How many professed believers know that Peter said that we must bear fruit to make our calling and election sure, by adding to our faith Godliness, and charity, (for two examples from his list), so that we won’t fall, and can enter heaven?

Or that Jesus said He is the vine, we are the branches, and warned that any branch that does not bear fruit is cut off the vine (of Jesus) as a dead branch, and is thrown into the fire?

Or that Jesus throws into hell as workers of iniquity, those who refused to help the sick, poor, hungry, naked, etc?

Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

chad kincham · Nov 7, 2020

friend of said:
Another way to look at the parable of the wedding guest, many people are clothed with wedding garments. Only one person is ejected. Those who were invited seem ordinary enough. The prostitutes and tax collectors enter in before (the pharisees/ religious peoples)

Except in the parable of the wedding supper of the lamb in Matthew 25, all ten were virgins, indicating being pure by faith, yet half of them don’t make it in.

SeventyOne · Nov 7, 2020

chad kincham said:
How many professed believers know that Peter said that we must bear fruit to make our calling and election sure, by adding to our faith Godliness, and charity, (for two examples from his list), so that we won’t fall, and can enter heaven?

Or that Jesus said He is the vine, we are the branches, and warned that any branch that does not bear fruit is cut off the vine (of Jesus) as a dead branch, and is thrown into the fire?

Or that Jesus throws into hell as workers of iniquity, those who refused to help the sick, poor, hungry, naked, etc?

Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

All those playing Christian try to earn salvation in their own strength, thinking their works are what gets them there, but in the end finding out they were the true fruitless workers of iniquity.

chad kincham · Nov 7, 2020

Paulus59 said:
ALL Christians who are born of the Holy Spirit will enter the Kingdom of Heaven - that is guaranteed! (John 10:28; 2 Corinthians 1:22) IF you are born again then you have nothing to fear - provided you are truly born again.

Sounds like the devil is filling your mind with doubts & fears and this can happen to even the best Christians - including me - as the evil one tries to trip you in your walk with Jesus. Strengthen your walk with Jesus through prayer and sound Bible study so that you grow strong in spirit to give you the assurance you need. I suggest you read the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John to re-establish & strengthen your faith in Jesus to overcome your doubts. Also please read the links I provided below so you get a clear understanding on this matter.

The following links are from GotQuestions that may help provide some answers for you. Please click on the links below:

Just how narrow is the narrow gate?

How can I have assurance of my salvation?

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I’m going to post the AoG church position paper on the security of the believer, because it summarizes what the Bible says, very well.

In view of the biblical teaching that the security of the believer depends on a living relationship with Christ (John 15:6); in view of the Bible’s call to a life of holiness (Hebrews 12:14; 1 Peter 1:16); in view of the clear teaching that a man may have his part taken out of the Book of Life (Revelation 22:19); and in view of the fact that one who believes for a while can fall away (Luke 8:13); The General Council of the Assemblies of God disapproves of the unconditional security position which holds that it is impossible for a person once saved to be lost. (Bylaws, Article IX.B.1)

The Assemblies of God affirms the biblical teaching that people enter into a personal saving relationship with Christ through the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit, who draws them to repentance and faith in Christ. Jesus described this initial salvation experience as “new birth” (John 3:3–6),1 as did the apostle Peter (1 Peter 1:3). Likewise, Paul wrote, “He saved us through the washing of rebirth [palingenesias, “rebirth” or “regeneration”] and renewal by the Holy Spirit” (Titus 3:5), also using “new creation” for this transformative saving event (2 Corinthians 5:17).

At the time of the believer’s new birth, theologically designated “regeneration,” the Holy Spirit comes into them, bringing assurance of forgiveness of sins, spiritual renewal, and a personal relationship with God. “The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children” (Romans 8:16). This dynamic relationship with God by His Spirit, initiated and sustained through faith, undergirds the security of the believer.

The following biblical teachings sustain and guide the believer’s growing maturity and perseverance in their relationship with Christ.

Salvation is available for every person (Luke 19:10; John 3:16; Romans 10:11–13; Hebrews 2:9; 2 Peter 3:9; Revelation 22:17).
Salvation is received and assured through faith (Romans 3:28; Galatians 2:20–21; Ephesians 2:8; Philippians 3:9; Hebrews 10:38; 1 Peter 1:5).
Salvation is an ongoing conflict with temptation and sin (Romans 1:32; 1 Corinthians 3:1–3, 5–8; 5:9–13; Hebrews 3:12–14; 12:1; 1 John 1:8; 3:8).
The believer’s salvation may be forfeited or abandoned by willfully turning away from Christ (John 17:12; 1 Timothy 4:1; 5:12, 15; Hebrews 6:4–6, 10:26–27, 38; 2 Peter 2:20; 1 John 5:16).

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