Do Aliens Exist?

JohnEmmett said:

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Cute.

AV1611VET said:

Yup.

Faith requires an object.

In our case, the object of our faith is Jesus Christ.

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The object of Mr. Emmett's faith, on the other hand, seems to be whatever fanciful ideas pass through his head, from Atlantis to UFOs to parallel universes.

JohnEmmett said:

Art is magic

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That's neither argument nor evidence - it's equivocation.

JohnEmmett said:

For Atlantis, the Richat Structure is Plato's description

I saw a UFO (close)

For parallel Universes, I have a photographic memory

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There's no archaeological evidence of anything beyond hunter-gatherer civilization there. It's also much larger than what Plato described.

That just means you saw something you couldn't identify.

Your memory isn't perfect whether you realize it or not.

You seem like the kind of guy to believe in any kind of conspiracy theory or outlandish claim that you hear. Do you think the earth is hollow or flat?

*unwatching

Strathos said:

... Your memory isn't perfect whether you realize it or not.

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His explanation for misremembering seems to be that his memory is actually correct every time, but he must have crossed to a parallel universe which is different in just that respect, 'like in Star Trek' (!). IOW, the multiverse conspires to falsify his 'photographic' memory...

FrumiousBandersnatch said:

His explanation for misremembering seems to be that his memory is actually correct every time, but he must have crossed to a parallel universe which is different in just that respect, like in Star Trek

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which you find impossible to accept


yet it's the truth


this is fascinating to me

JohnEmmett said:

which you find impossible to accept

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Strictly speaking, I find it so unlikely as to be infinitesimally close to impossible

yet it's the truth

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In your dreams, perhaps.

JohnEmmett said:

"I know that I know nothing"
-Socrates

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Plato doesn't quote him saying that; in 'Apology', he says, "I neither know nor think that I know"; this is referring to things he doesn't know. IOW, he admits ignorance of things he doesn't know. It's almost a theme in Plato's writings.

learn from Socrates

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Oh I have - I took a whole course on Plato.

But I already understood that we cannot know anything with certainty - I learned that part of the scientific tradition at school, and I learned to accept uncertainty and not knowing when I started scientific work.

JohnEmmett said:

exactly…

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You, on the other hand, make claims about things you can't possibly know - including what I think.

Matthew 7:3-5 springs to mind...

JohnEmmett said:

but you know it can't be known, which is wrong


you know it's not so, yet you don't know this

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You don't know that.

JohnEmmett said:

I never mentioned a conspiracy

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Yet you must believe in many of them to explain why so many people reject your ideas.

JohnEmmett said:

you need to investigate


why I shared videos…

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I'd rather not waste my time and get a bunch of trash in my recommendation algorithms on Youtube. If you have a cogent argument, write it out.

JohnEmmett said:

paradox

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Exactly - that's why Socrates statement about not knowing is known as the Socratic paradox...