The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

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That's so funny! I'm looking at the common Israelite use of a thousand - there are many more examples - to help us understand how to read the most metaphorical and symbolic book in the bible. Numbers and colours and symbols and animals are all symbolic. I'm just showing you how the Hebrews actually used 1000. The fact that you think I'm importing something random onto Revelation 20 when it's the most pertinent information possible is not my fault. The fact that it doesn't agree with your eschatological culture is not my fault. The fact that you don't want to hear that 1000 is one of the most symbolic, non-literal numbers in the bible is not my fault.
It is God's time. It is not some representative of carnal abundance. The symbolic term would be the Lord's Day or the Day of the Lord. 1000 years is the literal side to the symbolic term Lord's Day. If it was termed as the Lord's Day you could make up what ever you think it literally means. To AVOID any confusion, John was specific to point out it was a literal 1000 years. John did not use the symbolic term Lord's Day. Peter claims we should not be ignorant, but some choose to make up whatever they wish 1000 years, "should mean". Thus making John just a confusion, instead of accepting that John was avoiding such confusion.
 
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Then stop with the passive-aggressive comments.....

Yes it is. Jesus travel plans = secret Da Vinci code for 2000 years = do some work on the genealogies = whacky!
Is this active-aggressive?
 
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You're the one that basically said I don't believe in heaven.
I did not say that; you have a very thin skin to infer that from what I said.
1. Even if we assume you are correct (for a nano-second only - and only for the sake of this argument) - what do you want me to do about this? I could care less! I'm saved. I'm trying to gossip the gospel. That's all that matters.
If I'm killed by worldwide persecution that suddenly breaks out as you predict - then good for you - you're the 1 in a thousand (see what I did with that number?) futurist that finally got it right. Break out the heavenly champagne - we're all martyrs. I guess I'll die and be with God. Win!
We ARE told that Bible Prophecy will enlighten our minds. 2 Peter 1:19
God has not given us all the Prophecies for no reason, they ARE for us; 1 Corinthians 14:22b
We should not be surprised when the Lord takes action, 1 Peter 4:12
But hypothetically - how would my accepting your flimsy timetable change anything?
Being aware and at the least; mentally prepared for what we are told in over 100 verses, of the forthcoming Lord's Day of fiery wrath, is better that being totally in the dark. 2 Thess 5:4
But we ARE told to be prepared physically as well. Isaiah 26:20-21
All that is needed is a place to take shelter during the one day of extreme heat, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis. I have a reefer container for myself and my family.
What do you make of all the assertions that Jesus would return like a thief in the night? That it would be like the days of Noah and God would return without any warning?
How much warning did the antediluvian people have? They took no notice of Noah's crazy preparations!
It is clear, from many angles, that we are now in the time, the season; for the Lord to once again correct His Creation, we are given all the details of what He plans to do.

Why don't you take take notice of the Prophetic Word? You believe the Salvation that Jesus offers, but reject His and all the Prophets warnings about the end time events. Not consistent or even faintly sensible.
 
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It is God's time. It is not some representative of carnal abundance.
I have absolutely no idea what you have tried to communicate here. It's just words in a row.

1000 years is the literal side to the symbolic term Lord's Day.
Prove it's literal!


If it was termed as the Lord's Day you could make up what ever you think it literally means.
It doesn't matter what we call things - it hasn't stopped futurists making up whatever they think they see 'literally' in the most metaphorical, symbolic book in the bible. Either that or Jesus really literally looks like a lamb with 7 eyes and 7 horns.

To AVOID any confusion, John was specific to point out it was a literal 1000 years.
That's right - and only a literal 144,000 people will be in heaven as well! :oldthumbsup:
And Jesus only has a literal 7 eyes and 7 horns.
Numbers are ALL perfectly literal in Revelation! :oldthumbsup: :sigh: :doh:


John did not use the symbolic term Lord's Day.
Absolutely irrelevant - the number 1000 is being used metaphorically the way it always is when it is not counting something specific like the number of soldiers in a battle, etc.
 
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It is obvious to anyone without another agenda to promote, that 1 Corinthians 15:50-56 is a prophecy about the Great White Throne Judgment; AFTER the Millennium. Only then is Death no more.
You post lengthy scriptures, but your take on what they mean, is a confused mish-mash.

Brother, you need to reestudy about 1Cor.15:v.50-57. The last trumpet has nothing to do with the White Throne Judgment, absolutely.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment...at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (Daniel 12:v.1-3 and 1Thessalonians 4v.15-17)

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (See what JESUS said: Luke:20:v.35-36)

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ

The seventh and last trumpet: Revelation 11:v.15-18
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:v.3 and Philippians 3:v.20-21), saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

1Corinthians 15:v.24-28

24 The END cometh, when JESUS shall have delivered up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.


25 For he must reign, till He hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.


May our LORD God bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen

 
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1. We don't know that to be a fact as 'son of' in the genealogies can mean 'descendant of'.
2. Much of early Genesis is creative narrative - it's literal not literary.
3. So what if it was 2000 years?
4. It wasn't.

So what?

Yes - the Lord has been patient with his creation, hasn't he?

(Yawns...) As we have already discussed: neither of these passages have any INKLING of Last Days time-tables in them.

Speaking of time-tables, here is one I have made only for a good study and conclusions about the times since Adam until today.

Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet. 3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years already concluded) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).
According biblical Chronology, we can number our days, beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow::
Adam lived …........................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived ………………….....…...........105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived .............................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived..............................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived ........................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived ............................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived .............................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;
Methuselah lived...................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived .........................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
From Noah´s birth until the Flood.......600 yrs.
Total yrs from Adam to the Flood = 1,656 yrs.
I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God,

It is not human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not
by human theories and speculations, but by the Word of God. So, see the table below:

PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES -------------------- DURATION
I - From Adam to the Flood----------------------------1,656 years (as was showed above)
II - From the Flood to Abraham------------------------.427 years
III - From Abraham to Exodus--------------------------430 years - Gal.3:17
IV - From Exodus to king Saul ---------------- --------396 years
V - From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem -------------.-508 years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus ------.------587 years
Thus, from Adam to the 1st coming of Jesus --- 4,004 years
From Jesus to our days (Christian Calendar)----. 2,020 years
Total from Adam to our days -------------------------- 6,024 years

Jesus -the Greater Light- came in the fourth Day or around 4,000 years after the beginning of creation. From JESUS
(fourth Day) until our days, have passed more TWO DAYS or 2.000 years (one Day with the Lord is as a thousand years), totalizing 6 complete Days or six complete milleniums, or around 6.000 years, more precisely 6,020 years, according Christian Calendar pointing the year 2.020. So, we have entered in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, the Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of Truth, the Millennium of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ, the Millennium of Vengeance. The world of Devil is already Judged and Condemned, and now, in this seventh and last millennium, it will be punished with strong punishments, there will be only and only punishments in this last Day, the Day of the Lord, King of kings and LORD of lords.

And God Father has already entered in His rest, as He had planned in the beginning of His works, but He is not sleeping, of course, and JESUS assume the government of the Universe. JESUS is now sat on His Throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ, to Judge all nations, taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not His gospel, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the Glory of His Power.

The kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.
(Rev.11:15) verse 18 And the nations were (will be) angry, and God's wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth. It's it.

John 2:v.19-21
19 Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

 
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Speaking of time-tables, here is one I have made only for a good study and conclusions about the times since Adam until today.

Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet. 3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years already concluded) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).
According biblical Chronology, we can number our days, beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow::
Adam lived …........................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived ………………….....…...........105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived .............................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived..............................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived ........................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived ............................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived .............................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;
Methuselah lived...................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived .........................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
From Noah´s birth until the Flood.......600 yrs.
Total yrs from Adam to the Flood = 1,656 yrs.
I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God,
It is not human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not
by human theories and speculations, but by the Word of God. So, see the table below:

PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES -------------------- DURATION
I - From Adam to the Flood----------------------------1,656 years (as was showed above)
II - From the Flood to Abraham------------------------.427 years
III - From Abraham to Exodus--------------------------430 years - Gal.3:17
IV - From Exodus to king Saul ---------------- --------396 years
V - From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem -------------.-508 years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus ------.------587 years
Thus, from Adam to the 1st coming of Jesus --- 4,004 years
From Jesus to our days (Christian Calendar)----. 2,020 years
Total from Adam to our days -------------------------- 6,024 years

Jesus -the Greater Light- came in the fourth Day or around 4,000 years after the beginning of creation. From JESUS (fourth Day) until our days, have passed more TWO DAYS or 2.000 years (one Day with the Lord is as a thousand years), totalizing 6 complete Days or six complete milleniums, or around 6.000 years, more precisely 6,020 years, according Christian Calendar pointing the year 2.020. So, we have entered in the beginning of the first century of the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, the Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of Truth, the Millennium of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ, the Millennium of Vengeance. The world of Devil is already Judged and Condemned, and now, in this seventh and last millennium, it will be punished with strong punishments, there will be only and only punishments in this last Day, the Day of the Lord, King of kings and LORD of lords.

And God Father has already entered in His rest, as He had planned in the beginning of His works, but He is not sleeping, of course, and JESUS assume the government of the Universe. JESUS is now sat on His Throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ, to Judge all nations, taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not His gospel, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the Glory of His Power.

The kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever. (Rev.11:15) verse 18 And the nations were (will be) angry, and God's wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth. It's it.

John 2:v.19-21
19 Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Oh no - not another end-times-table? How many is that on this site - must be up to 666? :oldthumbsup:
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Brother, you need to reestudy about 1Cor.15:v.50-57. The last trumpet has nothing to do with the White Throne Judgment, absolutely.
On the contrary; 1 Corinthians 15:50-56 cannot be before the GWT Judgment; after the Millennium.
Only then is the Book of Life opened and immortality given to those whose names are in that Book. Only then is Death no more.

It is false teaching the think anyone human will be immortal before or during the Millennium. We have that Promise, but not the reality of Eternal life, John 3:16, to be fulfilled only when Eternity commences.
 
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Oh no - not another end-times-table? How many is that on this site - must be up to 666? :oldthumbsup:
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Do not you believe in the Word of God the source of the time-table? Or do you have preference in theories of demons, more clearly in cunningly devised fables and theories invented by the spirit of lie?
 
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It is false teaching the think anyone human will be immortal before or during the Millennium.

Sorry, false is your theory invented by the spirit of the lie, whose work is to deny God's Truth - God is the Truth.

You should believe in the Word of God - the Word is God, you should believe in JESUS and testify of His Power instead to deny His Power.

Philippians 3:v.20-21

20 For our conversation is in heaven
(Ephesians 1:v.3); from whence also we LOOK for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby JESUS is able even to subdue all things unto Himself.
 
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Romans 8:18-25

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy t
o be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature
waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves,
waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.


24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
 
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20 For our conversation is in heaven (Ephesians 1:v.3); from whence also we LOOK for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby JESUS is able even to subdue all things unto Himself.
Does that scripture say when?
It doesn't and that Promise will be realized when Jesus finally subdues all things to Himself; which will happen at the end of the Millennium. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28

I am aware that this truth conflicts with what you have been taught, but there are wolves among the flock, teaching false theories.
Make very sure that what you believe is Biblically correct.
 
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Does that scripture say when?
It doesn't and that Promise will be realized when Jesus finally subdues all things to Himself; which will happen at the end of the Millennium. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28

I am aware that this truth conflicts with what you have been taught, but there are wolves among the flock, teaching false theories.
Make very sure that what you believe is Biblically correct.
Romans 8:18-25

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

 
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Romans 8:18-25
Again; No time given for this to happen.
The only time anyone is bodily Redeemed, or glorified, is when the Book of Life is opened. AFTER the Millennium.
What is it that makes you believe this can happen sooner?
 
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Do not you believe in the Word of God the source of the time-table? Or do you have preference in theories of demons, more clearly in cunningly devised fables and theories invented by the spirit of lie?
No - I like Amillennial doctrine that relies on the clearer reading of the New Testament and takes those basic concepts and applies them to Revelation. Not the less clear metaphors in Revelation being applied over the clearer writing in the New Testament - that just muddies the waters. Oh, and BTW - try not to call a different classical interpretation of eschatology that the giants of the Reformation held to 'theories of demons' or you're breaking forum rules and not really justifying your argument - just getting emotional. (What is it with you futurists getting on your holier-than-though high horses? Seriously! Can't we just have a polite conversation for once - it doesn't help your opinions sound balanced!)
 
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Again; No time given for this to happen.
The only time anyone is bodily Redeemed, or glorified, is when the Book of Life is opened. AFTER the Millennium.
What is it that makes you believe this can happen sooner?

Riddlebarger explains it well. Basically, there is NOW and then there is THEN - there is no 'in-between'.

If we begin with clear passages of Scripture, we can construct a very simple, basic model to help us with the “weirder,” tougher passages. One such approach is known as the “two-age” model. Both Jesus and Paul, for example, speak of “this age” and the “age to come” as distinct eschatological periods of time (Mt 12:32; Lk 18:30; 20:34-35; Eph 1:21). For both our Lord and the apostle, there are two contrasting ages in view. The first age (spoken of as “this age” in the New Testament) is the present period of time before the Second Coming of Christ. The second age, a distinctly future period of time, is referred to as “the age to come.” When these two ages (“this age” and “the age to come”) are placed in contrast with each other, we are able us to look at the qualities ascribed by the Biblical writers to each in such a way that we can answer questions about the timing of the return of Christ and the nature and timing of the millennium.

When we look at the qualities ascribed to “this age” by the biblical writers, we find that the following are mentioned: “homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields — and with them persecutions” (Mk 10:30); “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage” (Lk 20:34); the scholar, philosopher and such wisdom are of this age (1 Cor 1:20); secular and religious rulers dominate (1 Cor 2:6-8); “the god of this age [Satan] has blinded the minds of unbelievers” (2 Cor 4:4); this age is explicitly called “the present evil age” (Gal 1:4); ungodliness and worldly passions are typical of it (Titus 2:12). All of these qualities are temporal, and are certainly destined to pass away with the return of our Lord. “This age” is the age in which we live, and is the age in which we struggle as we long for the coming of Christ and the better things of the age to come.

By marked contrast however, “the age to come” has an entirely different set of qualities ascribed to it: There will be no forgiveness for blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Mt 12:32); it is preceded by signs (Mt 24:3); it is characterized by eternal life (Mk 10:30; Lk 18:30); is also denoted as a time when there is no marriage or giving in marriage (Lk 20:35); and it is which is characterized by “life that is truly life” (I Tim 6:19). These qualities are all eternal, and are indicative of the state of affairs and quality of life after the return of Christ. In other words, these two ages, the present (“this age”) and the future (the “age to come”) stand in diametrical opposition to one another. One age is temporal; the other is eternal. One age is characterized by unbelief and ends in judgement; the other is the age of the faithful and is home to the redeemed. It is this conception of biblical history that dominates the New Testament.

It is also imperative to see that the same contrasts which Jesus and Paul make between these two ages are in turn related to the one event that forever divides them, the return of Christ. This line of demarcation is expressly stated in Scripture. “The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. . . This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous” (Mt. 13:39-49). These statements are the type of clear and unambiguous texts mentioned earlier. Notice that according to this text judgement occurs immediately at Christ’s return, not after a one-thousand year millennium (as in the premillennial scheme). This is not the only line of Biblical evidence, however, for in addition to this we can find other such statements about the coming of Christ that fit very clearly into the two-age model.

According to Scripture, the resurrection of both the just and the unjust occurs simultaneously. Jesus expressly states that he will raise believers up on the “last day” (Jn 6:39, 40, 44, 54; 11:24). Thus we told quite clearly that the resurrection of the just occurs on the last day, at the end of this age. In addition, Jesus also proclaims that “There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day” (John 12:48). Notice that the very same event is also said to be the time of judgment for those who reject Christ. Add to these important passages those additional verses that, relate the trumpet of God to the “last day” and to the return of Christ. The return of Christ will occur “in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed” (1 Co. 15:52; cf. 1 Thess 4:16). Notice that there are no gaps of time indicated between the resurrection and the judgement. These texts collectively speak of the resurrection, the judgment, and the return of Christ as distinct aspects of but one event, occurring at precisely the same time (cf. Mt 25:31-46). Premillennialists, who often chide amillennialists for not taking the Bible “literally” and who champion what they call the “literal” interpretation of Scripture, must now insert a thousand-year gap between the Second Coming of Christ (and the resurrection) and the Final Judgment to make room for the supposed future millennial reign of Christ! And this, ironically, when the clear declarations of Scripture do not allow for such gaps.

Thus, we can conclude that “this age” — the period of time Peter calls the “last days” (Acts 2:17), and which Jesus characterizes as a period of birth pains of wars, earthquakes, famine, and distress (Mt 24, Mk 13) — ends with the return of Christ, the resurrection and the judgement on the “last day.” An event that, by the way, Peter describes like the “day of the Lord [which] will come as a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare” (2 Pet 3:10). It is only after this that the age to come will be a present and visible reality. Notice that the focus is not upon a half-way kingdom and somewhat improved temporal age on the earth (i.e., a future millennium).

Instead, the biblical focus is upon the consummation and the summing up of all things with the creation of the new heavens and the new earth! The return of Jesus Christ is the key event in biblical prophecy. For when our Lord Jesus Christ returns, the end of the age, the resurrection, the judgment, and the creation of the new heavens and the new earth are at hand!

Thus the two-age model is very simple in its structure and is based on texts that can only be described as clear and straightforward. This enables us to make the following conclusions about the nature of the New Testament’s teaching regarding the return of Christ and the timing of the so-called “millennial age.”
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Thus the two-age model is very simple in its structure and is based on texts that can only be described as clear and straightforward. This enables us to make the following conclusions about the nature of the New Testament’s teaching regarding the return of Christ and the timing of the so-called “millennial age.”
Too bad that Revelation 20:1-14 contradicts your theory. Rev 20:15-18 is the final Judgment for everyone who has ever lived, then comes the New heavens and earth and Eternity.

The whole Bible is a progression of how God deals with Adams fall and eventually obtains for Himself a people who have freely chosen Him and proved their faith by standing firm thru all that must happen to test us.

If the carefully described events of our future are not what will happen, then how can we be sure of any of the rest of the Bible message?
 
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Too bad that Revelation 20:1-14 contradicts your theory.
How so? Satan is bound regarding deceiving the nations. He's not locked away so he can't get up to any mischief - just in regard to deceiving the nations. In other words - the gospel going out into all nations today is evidence that he is bound in this specific regard, right now! This should not surprise us.

Check it out:

When the seventy returned from their preaching mission, they said to Jesus, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name." Jesus replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" (Luke 10:17-18). These words, needless to say, must not be interpreted as suggesting Satan's literal descent from heaven at that moment. They must rather be understood to mean that Jesus saw in the works his disciples were doing an indication that Satan's kingdom had just been dealt a crushing blow—that, in fact, a certain binding of Satan, a certain restriction of his power, had just taken place. In this instance Satan's fall or binding is associated directly with the missionary activity of Jesus' disciples.

Another passage which relates the restriction of Satan's activities to Christ's missionary outreach is John 12:31-32: "Now is the judgment of this world, now shall the ruler of this world be cast out; and I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself." It is interesting to note that the verb translated "cast out" (ekball) is derived from the same root as the word used in Revelation 20:3, "and threw (ball) him [Satan] into the pit." Even more important, however, is the observation that Satan's being "cast out" is here associated with the fact that not only Jews but men of all nationalities shall be drawn to Christ as he hangs on the cross.

The binding of Satan described in Revelation 20:1-3, therefore, means that throughout the gospel age in which we now live the influence of Satan, though certainly not annihilated, is so curtailed that he cannot prevent the spread of the gospel to the nations of the world. Because of the binding of Satan during this present age, the nations cannot conquer the church, but the church is conquering the nations.

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Jesus equates the 'binding of Satan' with the gospel going out. In Acts, the disciples ask about when the kingdom is going to be ushered in and Jesus says 1:8 - go out into all the world. It's two sides of the same coin.

Rev 20:15-18 is the final Judgment for everyone who has ever lived, then comes the New heavens and earth and Eternity.

As Riddlebarger said:

The return of Christ will occur “in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed” (1 Co. 15:52; cf. 1 Thess 4:16). Notice that there are no gaps of time indicated between the resurrection and the judgement.​

The whole Bible is a progression of how God deals with Adams fall and eventually obtains for Himself a people who have freely chosen Him and proved their faith by standing firm thru all that must happen to test us.
Irrelevant to testing the genre of Revelation.

If the carefully described events of our future are not what will happen, then how can we be sure of any of the rest of the Bible message?
This is the same as asking whether we can trust the doctors on Covid 19 because they said the Easter Bunny would deliver the vaccine back in Easter, so how can we trust them? Um, where did the doctors say that? They didn't. You've gone circular - you're assuming your particular reading of an end-times-table is right and then asking if they don't happen how can we trust the bible?

But as I've been saying all along, it's not a prediction of specific events, but a general description of the age we live in. It's not a coded timetable, but a symbolic sermon.

It's not a troublesome and specific roadmap for the drive ahead, but a general warning that the road ahead will involve storms and troubles, but you'll have fuel in the tank and a friend in the passenger seat all the way. And when you get there, it will be so worth it.
 
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Hey maaate, its my bedtime! 9:36 NZ time here.

I place symbolic sermons in the round file, my preference is to belive the Bible as Written. I believe the Salvation of Jesus and I have no reason to not believe what He said to John will happen as Written.
 
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