Bill Gates calls Trump’s COVID advisor a fake expert

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I'd say Australia has handled this is the most authoritarian, dytopian way possible.

This virus isn't the mass casualty event it was billed as being in February/March. This is, at this stage, a severe flu. And none of these radical steps taken were worth it, in retrospect.
And you would be wrong. Open slather would have meant hospital emergency departments swamped with COVID cases. People get sick from other causes at exactly the same rate as before COVID. If you think that it's ok to sacrifice a section of society on the altar of "the economy", fine. Personally, as one of the older people, I'm glad that Australia had the sense to lockdown early. I'm glad that the medical staff at my local hospital were able to treat me instead hundreds of COVID cases. Yes, it's a pain. Yes, it is worth it. No, it was not handled perfectly. No human endeavour is perfect.

A severe flu? maybe, but numbers of people are suffering long term effects from the virus. Ordinary flu kills a lot of people. At least there are vaccines if people want them. Not so with COVID as yet.
 
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Then yea, authoritarian.

Right, a strict limited timed rule to help burn an infection out of a city = authoritarian. Let me guess, speed limits are overrated too, amirite?

As for the numbers, they have been cooking those numbers since the start. They effectively mean nothing to those who remember this.

You are completely wrong. You need to stop reading these dark fantasy nonsense web sites that shovel this manure.
 
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You might not realize it but humans are “ herd “ animals
You may be just an animal, but I am not. I'm a born again, child of the living God. I have a new spirit, I am a new creation in Christ and I was created in God's image. I have free will, the ability to reason, be logical and creative.
 
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Right, a strict limited timed rule to help burn an infection out of a city = authoritarian. Let me guess, speed limits are overrated too, amirite?



You are completely wrong. You need to stop reading these dark fantasy nonsense web sites that shovel this manure.

What, like the CDC? Counting presumed cases that were never tested. Presumed deaths, never tested. Yea, its called memory.
 
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You may be just an animal, but I am not. I'm a born again, child of the living God. I have a new spirit, I am a new creation in Christ and I was created in God's image. I have free will, the ability to reason, be logical and creative.
. You’re a vertebrate and a mammal . That makes you an animal unless you’re going for being plant life or an android . My late dog had all of those . My youngest watched her climb onto the bed, walk across an inch wide fish tank stand on her hindlegs, then jump up to get his sandwich off the top of a stand-alone closet . THAT was some serious logical and creative reasoning ability! Free will ? It was my son’s sandwich she decided for herself that she wanted it!
 
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Then yea, authoritarian.

As for the numbers, they have been cooking those numbers since the start. They effectively mean nothing to those who remember this.
Given that in the US we are almost at 9 million confirmed cases, and are getting over 500,000 new cases per week, I would say Australia is being reasonable.

I never understand my fellow American's desire to have the freedom to be an idiot or a jerk all the time. They throw a fit if they can't get their coffee, or be able to go out to a bar. A simple cloth face covering is authoritarian.

I have studied history, and these are all reasonable precautions from past epidemics. The reason it doesn't look so bad is that the states that got hit first took action. With the cases climbing and the hospitals in some midwest cities filling up, you will see those death cases climb.
 
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. You’re a vertebrate and a mammal . That makes you an animal unless you’re going for being plant life or an android . My late dog had all of those . My youngest watched her climb onto the bed, walk across an inch wide fish tank stand on her hindlegs, then jump up to get his sandwich off the top of a stand-alone closet . THAT was some serious logical and creative reasoning ability! Free will ? It was my son’s sandwich she decided for herself that she wanted it!
When my cat starts preaching the kingdom of God, I'll accept that I'm of the same order of creation as she is. Sure, animals have intelligence but they operate by instinct, not by choice. A dog will do anything for food. You want smart? Check out the octopus. I was created in God's image. That makes me unique among God's creation. You too, even if you do not believe it.
 
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You may be just an animal, but I am not. I'm a born again, child of the living God. I have a new spirit, I am a new creation in Christ and I was created in God's image. I have free will, the ability to reason, be logical and creative.
Yes, you're an animal which can do all those things. That's what makes you unique amongst all the other animals. If you are a Christian, you believe that you're an animal with an immortal soul.
 
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Yes, you're an animal which can do all those things. That's what makes you unique amongst all the other animals. If you are a Christian, you believe that you're an animal with an immortal soul.
You are calling God an animal? I'm made in His image.
 
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And you would be wrong. Open slather would have meant hospital emergency departments swamped with COVID cases. People get sick from other causes at exactly the same rate as before COVID. If you think that it's ok to sacrifice a section of society on the altar of "the economy", fine. Personally, as one of the older people, I'm glad that Australia had the sense to lockdown early. I'm glad that the medical staff at my local hospital were able to treat me instead hundreds of COVID cases. Yes, it's a pain. Yes, it is worth it. No, it was not handled perfectly. No human endeavour is perfect.

A severe flu? maybe, but numbers of people are suffering long term effects from the virus. Ordinary flu kills a lot of people. At least there are vaccines if people want them. Not so with COVID as yet.
We don't agree on much, but it is reassuring to know that there are conservative evangelicals who don't adhere slavishly to the Trump "line."
 
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You are calling God an animal? I'm made in His image.
OK, you're made in God's image, f that's how you want to think of it. Any physical resemblance to a mammal is purely coincidental. How many of these mammalian characteristics do you share with God?
 
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Given that in the US we are almost at 9 million confirmed cases, and are getting over 500,000 new cases per week, I would say Australia is being reasonable.

I never understand my fellow American's desire to have the freedom to be an idiot or a jerk all the time. They throw a fit if they can't get their coffee, or be able to go out to a bar. A simple cloth face covering is authoritarian.

I have studied history, and these are all reasonable precautions from past epidemics. The reason it doesn't look so bad is that the states that got hit first took action. With the cases climbing and the hospitals in some midwest cities filling up, you will see those death cases climb.

Apart from anything else, temporary restrictions on freedoms during obvious emergencies have always been considered consistent with liberty and democracy. The point is that they are temporary and transparent.

This notion of freedom of "I should be able to do whatever I want no matter how stupid or how many people it hurts, like infecting people with disease" is a child's conception of freedom. You're not William Wallace because you're too pansy to wear a mask and you're mad because Arby's is shut thanks to lockdown.
 
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When my cat starts preaching the kingdom of God, I'll accept that I'm of the same order of creation as she is. Sure, animals have intelligence but they operate by instinct, not by choice. A dog will do anything for food. You want smart? Check out the octopus. I was created in God's image. That makes me unique among God's creation. You too, even if you do not believe it.
animals think ! This fox wanted to know what this human was doing!
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Billy, you are not a Doctor. Shut up and go play in the sandbox.

Sandbox

A separate or boxed environment is created within the PC to install and run new untrusted programs so that they do not affect the underlying operating system. You can also call Sandboxing as a security treatment because of its virtualization, which doesn’t allow applications to access the personal files or original device. Moreover, a separate virtual memory and space will be created for these apps and any connection between the OS and apps remains nil.
 
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