LOL... landing on an asteriod.....

d taylor said:

Maybe that will be what fuels the fire in the lake, all the burning of the science books, which went against Gods creation

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I can't imagine seeing the image of torture and the destruction of knowledge as in any way good.

I am all for knowledge and will champion any person with great intelligence. As long as knowledge is base
in truth.

Shemjaza said:

I can't imagine seeing the image of torture and the destruction of knowledge as in any way good.

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What a great many Christians today don't know or choose not to admit is that the persecution of the pagans by the Christians following Constantine actually contributed to the destruction of learning and led to the centuries of the Dark Ages

He binds up the water in His thick clouds, Yet the clouds are not broken under it.

This alone disproves a gravity force.

d taylor said:

Speaking about water clouds and gravity.​

He binds up the water in His thick clouds, Yet the clouds are not broken under it.

This alone disproves a gravity force.

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Evaporation does not disprove gravity.

Is the political correctness, moving (like it has done in other areas) to a protection of science.

To the extent that if a person disagrees with the science experts. They could face fines or possibly even jail time.

Shemjaza said:

I can't imagine seeing the image of torture and the destruction of knowledge as in any way good.

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That approach has already been tried and by Christians. If we examine the question of persecution historically we discover a somewhat different picture than is usually understood. The early Christians did endure persecution from the Roman authorities but it was not always and everywhere. It was in fact very patchy in both time and place. With Constantine that persecution was ended but over the next several centuries Christians launched a wide scale, vicious persecution against the pagans, particularly in but not limited to Western Europe. Not only were pagan people persecuted and pagan temples destroyed but universities and academies and libraries were targeted and destroyed. The intellectual infrastructure of civilization was destroyed. This was a contributing factor in the fall of the Roman Empire and the long centuries of the Dark Ages.

d taylor said:

Is the political correctness, moving (like it has done in other areas) to a protection of science.

To the extent that if a person disagrees with the science experts. They could face fines or possibly even jail time.

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No.

We don’t have enough jails.

d taylor said:

Speaking about water clouds and gravity.​

He binds up the water in His thick clouds, Yet the clouds are not broken under it.

This alone disproves a gravity force.

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There are many forces besides gravity at work here but in the end that water does come down often in vast quantities and very destructively. Gravity wins.

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JackRT said:

What a great many Christians today don't know or choose not to admit is that the persecution of the pagans by the Christians following Constantine actually contributed to the destruction of learning and led to the centuries of the Dark Ages

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The centre of learning was in Rome was it not? What 'destruction of learning' are you talking about and when? The mythos of a dark age is outdated.

Have an atheist perspective:
The Dark Age Myth: An Atheist Reviews "God's Philosophers"

East-Rome stood until the near 1500's, and please point to the lost learning crescent of discovery occurring among pagan Europe until the supposed "dark ages" occurred.

Or do you believe also that the Library of Alexandria was "burned down" just once and for all instead of several times with various levels of evacuation?

Anyone who wants to prove we live on a spinning ball of water, with everything attached to this sphere with gravity.

Simply take a bowl of water placed on a table, let the bowl of water calm down like the above photo of this calm lake.

Then just film yourself moving the table with the bowl of water on it, while the bowl of water remains perfectly calm like it is while resting on the non moving table. Record your success at keeping the bowl of water perfectly at rest while moving the table.

JacksBratt said:

So, this asteroid is one of the oldest rocks of the universe.. yet it continually ejects pieces of itself into space.. and .... miraculously.. still exists... Really? How big was it then when it started? And... further to that.. if it was much bigger before.. it would then have the mass that planet sized objects have and would not eject debris...

So.. it is an oxymoron... It could not have been ejecting particles for millions of years and still exist..Or.. it was really big to start and nothing would have escaped it's gravity...

Nice try though.

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But it could have been larger and casting out particles for thousands.

d taylor said:

Anyone who wants to prove we live on a spinning ball of water, with everything attached to this sphere with gravity.

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Simply take a bowl of water placed on a table, let the bowl of water calm down like the above photo of this calm lake.

Then just film yourself moving the table with the bowl of water on it, while the bowl of water remains perfectly calm like it is while resting on the non moving table. Record your success at keeping the bowl of water perfectly at rest while moving the table.

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Ever poured a cup of water in an airplane? It's actually quite easy.

Shemjaza said:

Ever poured a cup of water in an airplane? It's actually quite easy.

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In other words, you can not do it.

d taylor said:

In other words, you can not do it.

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...I was presenting an example of how relative velocity is more important.

The fact that the surface of the earth is rotating quickly is irrelevant if the objects and atmosphere are rotating along with it.

d taylor said:

Anyone who wants to prove we live on a spinning ball of water, with everything attached to this sphere with gravity.

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Simply take a bowl of water placed on a table, let the bowl of water calm down like the above photo of this calm lake.

Then just film yourself moving the table with the bowl of water on it, while the bowl of water remains perfectly calm like it is while resting on the non moving table. Record your success at keeping the bowl of water perfectly at rest while moving the table.

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It's a poor example now that I think about it, constantly moving around the table is constantly changing the vectors of force and so applying conflicting pressures that will disturb the water.

Imagine if you had a bowl of water on a little boat on your placid lake, if you started it moving at a decent pace and placed you bowl on it as it went past, the bowl would slosh at first then calm down, even as the boat continued to drift.

d taylor said:

Anyone who wants to prove we live on a spinning ball of water, with everything attached to this sphere with gravity.

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Simply take a bowl of water placed on a table, let the bowl of water calm down like the above photo of this calm lake.

Then just film yourself moving the table with the bowl of water on it, while the bowl of water remains perfectly calm like it is while resting on the non moving table. Record your success at keeping the bowl of water perfectly at rest while moving the table.

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Newton's laws of motion are three physical laws that, together, laid the foundation for classical mechanics. They describe the relationship between a body and the forces acting upon it, and its motion in response to those forces. More precisely, the first law defines the force qualitatively, the second law offers a quantitative measure of the force, and the third asserts that a single isolated force does not exist. These three laws have been expressed in several ways, over nearly three centuries, and can be summarised as follows:
First law
Second law
In an inertial frame of reference, the vector sum of the forces F on an object is equal to the mass m of that object multiplied by the acceleration a of the object: F = ma. (It is assumed here that the mass m is constant – see below.)
Third law
When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body.
The three laws of motion were first compiled by Isaac Newton in his Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica (Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy), first published in 1687. Newton used them to explain and investigate the motion of many physical objects and systems. For example, in the third volume of the text, Newton showed that these laws of motion, combined with his law of universal gravitation, explained Kepler's laws of planetary motion.

Beautiful photographs BTW.

Those are just from an internet search, i would have to travel a day at least to get to an area like in the photos.