Deaths, hospitalizations and at least 68 COVID-19 cases after weeklong church event

Archivist · Oct 26, 2020

JacksBratt said:
Yawn

Well, some of us find it interesting.

JacksBratt · Oct 26, 2020

NotreDame said:
There are two very good reasons given for the initial lack of consensus for masks in February/March. First, the mask shortage was a reason. Second, American and global epidemiologists/virologists were still researching how exactly the virus spread. February and March was very much within the few months of the pandemic and was in the infancy of being researched and studied.

Once the national and international research began producing data as to how the virus is transmitted, under what conditions increase risk of spread, what actions increase risk of spread, the recommendations followed, including the use of masks and avoiding indoor, confined spaces with several other people for an hour or more.

It's..... a .... Virus.....

How are all other virus's spread?

Oh... ya... right... but they didn't know.

Archivist · Oct 26, 2020

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Hate to say this, but I don't object to slinging things at Trump. He deserves it. What a jerk. And this is coming from a registered Republican who has never before voted for a Democrat for President in over 40 years of voting. This time my vote went to Biden.

And I have seen posts from those on the right attacking those on the left on CF. It is going both ways.

Brightmoon · Oct 26, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
Our chances of doing that are high regardless. Most winters you could spread a bug to an elderly person at your church unaware your carrying an illness, and that elderly person could catch it, develop pneumonia and die...

We've never considered accidental disease transmission when you don't have any symptoms to be "murder", and God most certainly doesn't..

. Not wearing a mask and not social distancing at this point is stupidity. It’s not considered to be suicide either but that what it amounts to

Brightmoon · Oct 26, 2020

Searching1God said:
Ah...The ever changing landscape of scientific certainty about masks.
Cherry picking. I can produce other studies that contradict this, but considering we live in times where medical or scientific dissent on Covid is liable to being censored, I will not.

But let's say for the sake of argument I agree with what they are saying. That still does not explain why all those seasoned epidemiologists couldn't tell people right off the bat at the beginning of the pandemic that they SHOULD wear cloth masks, a scarf, a bandana, a kerchief, whatever, any face covering for protection and to prevent spread. You see, if this is sooooo important, it is very hard for my rational mind to believe that in all their years of epidemiological work and expertise, the people in charge of epidemiology, including the illustrious Dr. Fauci, were only finding out THIS year that cloth masks were one of the key factors in stopping spread of flu like virus. You mean, THAT.NEVER.CAME.UP.BEFORE in terms of epidemiological strategy?.

Therefore I will continue to have the skeptical mind that has served me well. I do wear masks and practice social distancing, because I respect the fear of other people, but for myself, I do not live in fear.

. Did you ever hear the expression that’s it better to be safe than be sorry? Wear the mask and social distance!

d taylor · Oct 26, 2020

tulc said:
threads not about abortion, if that's what you want to discuss you should start a thread about that where it can be discussed, this thread is about what's in the OP.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)

Ok i go to walmart, i do not wear a mask. I am not coughing or sneezing i spend about an hour in there getting etc... So tell me how many people did i kill on my trip to walmart.

Akita Suggagaki · Oct 26, 2020

d taylor said:
Ok i go to walmart, i do not wear a mask. I am not coughing or sneezing i spend about an hour in there getting etc... So tell me how many people did i kill on my trip to walmart.

It depends on whether you are asymptomatic but infected, how many people you may have spread it to, and how many other people they may have spread it to.

So impossible to know but thanks for sharing.

Arc F1 · Oct 26, 2020

Searching1God said:
Did you notice they never track how many people got Covid from going to those essential stores?

More interestingly, they never tracked how many people got Covid from attending protests?

It's always tracked back to churches, trump rallies, and the like. That virus definitely leans left.

I read an article a while back that said NYC wouldn't even let the tracers ask if people had attended a rally. That's one way of covering up for all those super spreading events.

Arc F1 · Oct 26, 2020

d taylor said:
Ok i go to walmart, i do not wear a mask. I am not coughing or sneezing i spend about an hour in there getting etc... So tell me how many people did i kill on my trip to walmart.

My guess is zero.

JacksBratt · Oct 26, 2020

Archivist said:
Hate to say this, but I don't object to slinging things at Trump. He deserves it. What a jerk. And this is coming from a registered Republican who has never before voted for a Democrat for President in over 40 years of voting. This time my vote went to Biden.

And I have seen posts from those on the right attacking those on the left on CF. It is going both ways.

Show me one other poster here on CF who's only posts or threads are limited to searching high and low and digging and digging only to post some dirt on Trump.... All the while totally ignoring the vast volumes of material, of the same level of embarrassment... only true.. on any candidate or associate of the left.

I could care less if people present factual events that deal with anyone in the election... But... if that is your soul purpose.. to attack one person... as a Christian I find that abrasive.

It's getting to the point where if I see this person starting a thread.. it will be something to sling mud at Trump.. true or not.

tulc · Oct 26, 2020

d taylor said:
Ok i go to walmart, i do not wear a mask. I am not coughing or sneezing i spend about an hour in there getting etc... So tell me how many people did i kill on my trip to walmart.

...I'm trying to figure out how you spent an hour at Walmart? That being said, the real question might better be: how many people are you comfortable with killing because you don't feel like wearing a mask? would 10 to 15 be too many?
tulc(just curious)

d taylor · Oct 26, 2020

tulc said:
...I'm trying to figure out how you spent an hour at Walmart? That being said, the real question might better be: how many people are you comfortable with killing because you don't feel like wearing a mask? would 10 to 15 be too many?
tulc(just curious)

That is not a real question it is just a real dodge to my question. Come on tell me how many i will kill.

Archivist · Oct 26, 2020

d taylor said:
That is not a real question it is just a real dodge to my question. Come on tell me how many i will kill.

If you have the virus you could kill. If you don’t you won’t kill any. The problem is that you can have the virus and not know.

d taylor · Oct 26, 2020

Archivist said:
If you have the virus you could kill. If you don’t you won’t kill any. The problem is that you can have the virus and not know.

I know my body and i know when i am not feeling well. I do not need a doctor or government telling that.

d taylor · Oct 26, 2020

_________________

What is needed is not a vaccine for this virus.

But one (a vaccine) that will keep people from buying into this government fear propaganda.

tulc · Oct 26, 2020

d taylor said:
That is not a real question it is just a real dodge to my question. (snip)

You asked how many and that made me wonder how many you'd be comfortable with being killed because you don't like wearing a mask?
tulc(thinks that's an aspect of d taylor's question that wasn't considered before it was asked) :wave:

Wolseley · Oct 26, 2020

Archivist · Oct 26, 2020

d taylor said:
I know my body and i know when i am not feeling well. I do not need a doctor or government telling that.

Except people can have COVID and show no symptoms.

d taylor · Oct 26, 2020

Archivist said:
Except people can have COVID and show no symptoms.

That is the control disinformation being used.

To pass this virus on, a person would have to coughing and/or sneezing.

JacksBratt · Oct 26, 2020

Why not... since they have the "rapid test" that gives results in 15 minutes... Wait until they have enough for everyone in your state, province.. then... test everyone...
Take those with the virus.. quarantine them and let the rest live life like we have been.

Then.. when those who have it are over it... it will be dead.

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