Mature Men/Women of God only. I need your help!

Frankie Reyes said:

I am going through a lot in my life, and I need him severely. I just want clarity in my life, direction guidance. Please believe me when i say ive prayed and fasted.

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It sounds like you lack peace...

Cease striving and KNOW that 'I AM' God.

It is all about Him - He is at work within us to will and to do of His good purpose.

Give up

Then things will likely begin to move...

There are times spiritual confirmations will be withdrawn, or vulnerability to the enemy will become manifest, in order to drive us deeper into the Word and prayer. There is nothing "just" (as in "mere") about prayer; therein lies the revelation and the power.

We walk by faith, not by sight. The sight follows faith. And if we focus too much on what we see and experience, faith suffers. And if faith suffers, Christian character suffers, and maturity and Christlikeness go unrealized.

There is nothing wrong here except that you need to buckle down, accept how it is for now, and start plowing your fields in preparation for the next planting of God in your heart. God is faithful. He has amazing things in store for you, but you must cooperate with His means of getting there. We come to God on His terms, not ours. He has not left you, but you must come up to a new standard. Persevere and press on.

Frankie Reyes said:

I am looking for spiritual help and guidance and answers to my questions. My request is for mature men and women of God only who have a true connection with Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is spiritual "meat" I say this because what I have to say may require God to speak through you to answer. That's my only reason for saying this.

Let's get started. I was baptized with the Holy Spirit when the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit came down as a dove into me. I saw the Holy Spirit face to face.

I did not grow up in a religious home. I found Jesus on my own without church.

I was 16 at the time, I am now 27 years old. I have seen Jesus Christ probably about 9 times since the age of 16.

The problem I am having right now is this... I havent seen him or been with him in the last probably 3 years. Did I fall into a curse? No. Did I go my own way into a world of sin? No.

Ok so its been 3 years. Whats the problem? My problem is is I only know how to have a relationship with God if we're together. I dont know anything else.

I feel like me and God are in this long distant relationship like hes in another state. I call his phone, he dont pick up. I send him text messages he dont reply. I write him letters and he doesnt write back. I felt like this for years and years. And I disnt give up but right now I feel like I'm about to give up.

I wish I could just be a normal Christian who is content with just prayer and reading the bible and going to church. And is happy with just "feeling" his presence and thats it. I tried so hard to be like that.

But I cant its like its not me or for me to live like that with God. And I hate that so much because I just wanna be happy with God.

Another thing is, dont get me wrong I am not a satanist or some new age person. I know very well the dangers in all those things. I understand spiritual warfare very well. I even seen Satan face to face. The beast himself. In full natural form. As unnatural as that sounds...

But riddle me this, why is it so dang easy to see demons? I'm not kidding give me 24 hours and I'll have a story to tell.

But seeing angels? Super hard.
Seeing Jesus? Super hard.
Seeing devils? Easy.

Why is this? I mean if God is so available. Why is it so difficult? Its funny hearing this from someone who seen God 9 times huh?

This is where i am. Please help me because I'm at a place where if i dont truly have God in my life. It's either i have him or i dont have him. No middle spot is open for me. I want him supernaturally not in any other way. I dont wanna read my bible alone, I want to be with him as he teaches me the bible. I dont want to pray alone and never hear from him. I want to pray and God speak back. I want a relationship that is alive. Not where i am the only one that is communicating with him in everyday. But hes not doing anything with me.

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Can you describe what Jesus/God appearance looks like?

Also describe the devil.
Thankyou

Frankie Reyes said:

The problem I am having right now is this... I havent seen him or been with him in the last probably 3 years. Did I fall into a curse? No. Did I go my own way into a world of sin? No.

Ok so its been 3 years. Whats the problem? My problem is is I only know how to have a relationship with God if we're together. I dont know anything else.

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You seem to be saying that when you became a Christian you had lots of supernatural experiences and knew that God was with you, but now you don't?
Sounds about normal to me.

When we first become Christians, things are new and exciting, we do want to walk with God and spend loads of time with him and we may even see wonderful things.
Then, we don't.
It doesn't mean that we've done something wrong or that God is displeased with us. It means that either we are experiencing spiritual warfare - the devil is furious with our enthusiasm for God and wants to disrupt it, or that God himself appears to withdraw to allow us to walk on our own and develop faith.
Paul said "we walk by faith, not by sight", 2 Corinthians 5:7.
We are not guaranteed miracles, nice religious experiences and great feelings every day of our Christian lives. Stuff happens, and we need to trust in in the valley of the shadow of death just as much as in the green pastures.

Also, Jesus said that his sheep listen to, and recognise, his voice; not that he will turn up every time to assure them who he is. It's really important to recognise God's voice over the voice of the world, the devil and our own feelings.

Frankie Reyes said:

Ok so its been 3 years. Whats the problem?

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You answered this in the very next sentence.

Frankie Reyes said:

My problem is is I only know how to have a relationship with God if we're together. I dont know anything else.

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Perhaps God is withdrawing the sense of his immediate presence so that you can grow. You wouldn't be the first person it happened to.

Frankie Reyes said:

I am looking for spiritual help and guidance and answers to my questions. My request is for mature men and women of God only who have a true connection with Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is spiritual "meat" I say this because what I have to say may require God to speak through you to answer. That's my only reason for saying this.

Let's get started. I was baptized with the Holy Spirit when the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit came down as a dove into me. I saw the Holy Spirit face to face.

I did not grow up in a religious home. I found Jesus on my own without church.

I was 16 at the time, I am now 27 years old. I have seen Jesus Christ probably about 9 times since the age of 16.

The problem I am having right now is this... I havent seen him or been with him in the last probably 3 years. Did I fall into a curse? No. Did I go my own way into a world of sin? No.

Ok so its been 3 years. Whats the problem? My problem is is I only know how to have a relationship with God if we're together. I dont know anything else.

I feel like me and God are in this long distant relationship like hes in another state. I call his phone, he dont pick up. I send him text messages he dont reply. I write him letters and he doesnt write back. I felt like this for years and years. And I disnt give up but right now I feel like I'm about to give up.

I wish I could just be a normal Christian who is content with just prayer and reading the bible and going to church. And is happy with just "feeling" his presence and thats it. I tried so hard to be like that.

But I cant its like its not me or for me to live like that with God. And I hate that so much because I just wanna be happy with God.

Another thing is, dont get me wrong I am not a satanist or some new age person. I know very well the dangers in all those things. I understand spiritual warfare very well. I even seen Satan face to face. The beast himself. In full natural form. As unnatural as that sounds...

But riddle me this, why is it so dang easy to see demons? I'm not kidding give me 24 hours and I'll have a story to tell.

But seeing angels? Super hard.
Seeing Jesus? Super hard.
Seeing devils? Easy.

Why is this? I mean if God is so available. Why is it so difficult? Its funny hearing this from someone who seen God 9 times huh?

This is where i am. Please help me because I'm at a place where if i dont truly have God in my life. It's either i have him or i dont have him. No middle spot is open for me. I want him supernaturally not in any other way. I dont wanna read my bible alone, I want to be with him as he teaches me the bible. I dont want to pray alone and never hear from him. I want to pray and God speak back. I want a relationship that is alive. Not where i am the only one that is communicating with him in everyday. But hes not doing anything with me.

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Frankie, your desire to hear from the Lord has not escaped him for a moment. Only a believer who has loved God so intimately would feel anguish during his silence. Some believers are as you say, "content with just prayer and reading the bible and going to church"; however, their worship lacks the depth that yours probably has. The fact is that you miss him like you would miss your best friend who hasn't responded to your calls for quite some time. Actually, it's deeper than that.

Your unusual ability to see spiritual things sounds like evidence of the gift of discernment.

Why are you able to see and recognize the demonic but not the angelic? I do not know. Some things we aren't meant to fully understand yet.

I believe that if He had not become silent in you that these other issues would have far less weight. You miss him, need him, love him, long for him, and cannot live without him. What I do know for certain is that He gives us his silence and what feels like distance (though He is ever present) from him in order to make us more like Christ in every way possible. Our steadfast faith in him when He seems to not be there is how He is able to mold us into the image of his dear Son. I promise - after serving in ministry 27 years - through many of my own trials of silence - He will not remain silent longer than what you can bear. He will bless you for your faithfulness to him. Remember, He was faithful to us first, and He suffered his own trials for our sake. We follow his example so that He is represented correctly by us to the world.

God molds you now for an assignment very soon. God bless you and keep you and fill you with knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. In Jesus' name. Amen!

It's perhaps not the answer you seek, but if you need faith, then you need to hear the word of God. Read your bible. If you honestly believe you have a book inspired by the Creator of heaven and earth, the one and only God there is, the solution to all your troubles in life, and more, even life eternal, then clearly it's not just some book that deserve to be dusting down in some corner. Perhaps this is exactly what you need, the very reason why you feel as you feel.

That was the one and only thing that came to my mind, that (Romans 10:17) "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.".

I too have seen the Holy Spirit face to face. I have been in God's presence before and I have seen bits and pieces of heaven. Ive had several encounters with God including a promise of one day having a baby (my wife and i have been childless for years.) So I believe that promise with all my heart even of my wife has given up. Ive see visions of Satan as well. Its been years since I've had a vision from God too. But, I know he's there. God speaks to us daily and is with us even we we have forgotten about him. God's sovreignty controls our very lives and growth to the point where every sheep of God will run and win the race.

I can tell you now with full confidence, God is with you my friend. You are a sheep of God and VERY precious to him. More precious than you will ever realize. Now, go do the work God is telling you to do (you know what that is deep in your heart. You know your talents and gifts. Use them to serve Christ) ad you will be rewarded beyond your wildest dreams. Set your mind on things above not on things here. Our visions are gifts from God but God will not always speak to us in visions. He speaks to us through scripture, through his sovreignty, through other Chrstians and through our very hearts. You know God is there because God has physically made it known to you that he's there. The new birth doesn't just go away. It is eternal.

Frankie Reyes said:

I am looking for spiritual help and guidance and answers to my questions. My request is for mature men and women of God only who have a true connection with Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is spiritual "meat" I say this because what I have to say may require God to speak through you to answer. That's my only reason for saying this.

Let's get started. I was baptized with the Holy Spirit when the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit came down as a dove into me. I saw the Holy Spirit face to face.

I did not grow up in a religious home. I found Jesus on my own without church.

I was 16 at the time, I am now 27 years old. I have seen Jesus Christ probably about 9 times since the age of 16.

The problem I am having right now is this... I havent seen him or been with him in the last probably 3 years. Did I fall into a curse? No. Did I go my own way into a world of sin? No.

Ok so its been 3 years. Whats the problem? My problem is is I only know how to have a relationship with God if we're together. I dont know anything else.

I feel like me and God are in this long distant relationship like hes in another state. I call his phone, he dont pick up. I send him text messages he dont reply. I write him letters and he doesnt write back. I felt like this for years and years. And I disnt give up but right now I feel like I'm about to give up.

I wish I could just be a normal Christian who is content with just prayer and reading the bible and going to church. And is happy with just "feeling" his presence and thats it. I tried so hard to be like that.

But I cant its like its not me or for me to live like that with God. And I hate that so much because I just wanna be happy with God.

Another thing is, dont get me wrong I am not a satanist or some new age person. I know very well the dangers in all those things. I understand spiritual warfare very well. I even seen Satan face to face. The beast himself. In full natural form. As unnatural as that sounds...

But riddle me this, why is it so dang easy to see demons? I'm not kidding give me 24 hours and I'll have a story to tell.

But seeing angels? Super hard.
Seeing Jesus? Super hard.
Seeing devils? Easy.

Why is this? I mean if God is so available. Why is it so difficult? Its funny hearing this from someone who seen God 9 times huh?

This is where i am. Please help me because I'm at a place where if i dont truly have God in my life. It's either i have him or i dont have him. No middle spot is open for me. I want him supernaturally not in any other way. I dont wanna read my bible alone, I want to be with him as he teaches me the bible. I dont want to pray alone and never hear from him. I want to pray and God speak back. I want a relationship that is alive. Not where i am the only one that is communicating with him in everyday. But hes not doing anything with me.

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Jesus tells us to follow him we must deny ourselves first. our "self" is our identity, the thing that describes who we are and Christ tells us to deny it. It sounds like to me you have developed a spiritual self-identity in these experiences with Christ and even "devils" to such a point you do not have an identity outside of these experiences and your faith has become dependant upon them. It seems you are seeking the experience of Christ and have stopped seeking Christ himself. Christ tells you to deny this, and follow him. There are many moments in Biblical accounts where people go through desert times in their life or times of quiet from God, it in fact seems so common we should expect it when we follow Christ. Christ himself went through a period like this.

The quote from Christ is "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me." taking up your cross in context seems like a metaphor to get ready to die for Christ or get ready to tough it out for him. It is indeed this yet Christ does not discount himself and he literally took up his own cross and in a sense, this statement foreshadows his own death.

If our faith requires the experience in order for it to continue then this is a weak faith. Those moments with Christ perhaps may have seemed powerful but why is it when you don't see him your faith or his power in you is less? God is God regardless of how you sense him and his power and authority are still above all else. In scripture, Paul was a great apostle and saw many healed in his lifetime, except himself. He suffered from something unknown in scripture and asked it to be taken away yet the reply was "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness".

So what is the reply to God when you ask him "where are you?" I would suggest it is the same as it was for Paul. Christ calls us to lay down our demands and conditions, whatever they are and no matter what you may be facing, and follow him. Christ may be leading you into a period of strengthing your faith, the product is good but the process is difficult.

Frankie Reyes said:

Yes! I struggle with my faith a lot, not in a sense of "Is God even real" because, I know God is real, Ive met him. My struggle is relationship based. Like i said in my original post I feel like I'm in a long distance relationship. I call him, no pick up. I leave voice mails, no call backs. I text him no replies. I send him letters, nothing back.

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He wrote you a letter. It's called The Bible. Everything you need to know or hear about and from Him is there.

I'm just sitting here like, what is going on? Also keep in mind 3 years is a long time. To remain strong all this time and just now feel weak like i just wanna give up, and instead of giving up seeking help.

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What exactly would "giving up" entail? Giving up your faith? Becoming an atheist? Giving God the silent treatment? If you have a loved one or friend that you don't hear from for a few years, do you "give up" on that relationship?

There are countless scriptures about how readily available God is for us. Yet, when we seek him, hes not there.

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Of course He is. He's everywhere. All the time. He lives *within* you through the indwelling Holy Spirit. He may be quiet, but He's not "gone".

In response to hearing Gods voice. I don't like to hear God in my thoughts, I used to practice this, but ive always been wrong about what I heard. I practiced this for years.

It's failed me so much, it has done more damage then good. To the point of no return. This is why I don't hear God, or why i say i dont hear God.

The only way im ever gonna trust something i hear, is if He shows up in a visitation whether it be in a vision or in person physically in my room. Because anytime hes ever talked to me like that I knew it was him speaking without doubt.

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No offense, but this doesn't sound like normal or healthy behavior or thinking to me.

I think you need to get back into God's Word and stay there. This sounds like way too much dependence on your own feelings, emotions, and impressions. God's Word is steadfast and unchanging, and that's where you need to build your foundation and relationship with Him.

Frankie Reyes said:

I am looking for spiritual help and guidance and answers to my questions. My request is for mature men and women of God only who have a true connection with Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is spiritual "meat" I say this because what I have to say may require God to speak through you to answer. That's my only reason for saying this.

Let's get started. I was baptized with the Holy Spirit when the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit came down as a dove into me. I saw the Holy Spirit face to face.

I did not grow up in a religious home. I found Jesus on my own without church.

I was 16 at the time, I am now 27 years old. I have seen Jesus Christ probably about 9 times since the age of 16.

The problem I am having right now is this... I havent seen him or been with him in the last probably 3 years. Did I fall into a curse? No. Did I go my own way into a world of sin? No.

Ok so its been 3 years. Whats the problem? My problem is is I only know how to have a relationship with God if we're together. I dont know anything else.

I feel like me and God are in this long distant relationship like hes in another state. I call his phone, he dont pick up. I send him text messages he dont reply. I write him letters and he doesnt write back. I felt like this for years and years. And I disnt give up but right now I feel like I'm about to give up.

I wish I could just be a normal Christian who is content with just prayer and reading the bible and going to church. And is happy with just "feeling" his presence and thats it. I tried so hard to be like that.

But I cant its like its not me or for me to live like that with God. And I hate that so much because I just wanna be happy with God.

Another thing is, dont get me wrong I am not a satanist or some new age person. I know very well the dangers in all those things. I understand spiritual warfare very well. I even seen Satan face to face. The beast himself. In full natural form. As unnatural as that sounds...

But riddle me this, why is it so dang easy to see demons? I'm not kidding give me 24 hours and I'll have a story to tell.

But seeing angels? Super hard.
Seeing Jesus? Super hard.
Seeing devils? Easy.

Why is this? I mean if God is so available. Why is it so difficult? Its funny hearing this from someone who seen God 9 times huh?

This is where i am. Please help me because I'm at a place where if i dont truly have God in my life. It's either i have him or i dont have him. No middle spot is open for me. I want him supernaturally not in any other way. I dont wanna read my bible alone, I want to be with him as he teaches me the bible. I dont want to pray alone and never hear from him. I want to pray and God speak back. I want a relationship that is alive. Not where i am the only one that is communicating with him in everyday. But hes not doing anything with me.

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Well times of darkness are natural and normal for a christian. these are timeswhen God can work great treasures into us in the times of darkness.

But let me ask you, you say you found Jesus when you were 16. what made you a christian? The bible declares there is only one thing we can do to be born again and given eternal life. I am not judging or accusing you of being a non - believer, but you "came to Jesus" in a very unorthodox and different way than nearly all come to HIm. So why do you think you are a saved individual.

Carl Emerson said:

The knowing of God in your Spirit is communication in itself - build on this rather than chasing the 'supernatural'

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I "bold" that!

Frankie Reyes said:

Let's get started. I was baptized with the Holy Spirit when the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit came down as a dove into me. I saw the Holy Spirit face to face.

I did not grow up in a religious home. I found Jesus on my own without church.

I was 16 at the time, I am now 27 years old. I have seen Jesus Christ probably about 9 times since the age of 16.

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Another question for you .

remember these 9 times you said you saw jesus. what did it cause to happen to you? What messages were imparted to you? Have you compared your life with those in Scripture that saw God? Did these "visions" radically alter your perception of life? I am not questioning your sincerity, but trying to drill down into your life to understand what is happening to you.

Every person who has had a vision of God has had their life radically turned upside down!

Isaiah--became a prophet with the knowledge from god that superificially his ministry would be an abject failure!

Jeremiah- the weeping prophet- was sent by god to give Israel the bill of divorcement. Spent his life in deep sorrow in His relationship with god.

Paul- blinded, given a terrible eye disease and a personal demon to buffet Him- used by god to establish the church in the gentile world.

The apostle JOhn. exiled on Patmos as a Roman prisoner- given the apocalypse God selected for the New Testament.

Moses- saw god in the bush and went from a prince of Egypt to deliverer of Israel after spending 40 years in isolation.

So compare yourself to these who had visions of God! what is your calling!

Frankie Reyes said:

Why is this? I mean if God is so available. Why is it so difficult? Its funny hearing this from someone who seen God 9 times huh?

This is where i am. Please help me because I'm at a place where if i dont truly have God in my life. It's either i have him or i dont have him. No middle spot is open for me. I want him supernaturally not in any other way. I dont wanna read my bible alone, I want to be with him as he teaches me the bible. I dont want to pray alone and never hear from him. I want to pray and God speak back. I want a relationship that is alive. Not where i am the only one that is communicating with him in everyday. But hes not doing anything with me.

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If you are saved, then as it is written in Hebrews: He will never leave you nor forsake you! Do you believe you are saved? what do you believe saved you? If you have to biblical answer God is with you no matter what external storm is raging.

You also need to pray and ponder if all these troubles are not because of your own self. Are you supposed to be involved in the Body and a work God has called and confirmed through elders and you are rebelling or resisting?

Yor writings are very generic and leave open many many possibilities.

There is the pattern of the tabernacle that is the outward appearance of Christ’s work on earth. Knowing that pattern is seeing Him preparing the way to the kingdom of priests in the order of Melchezedec.

You may want to hang out in the field with Him alone being His buddy but it turns out that He has obedience in mind, and that obedience is to His path.

Once in the gate there is the sacrifice, and then the washing of the world from feet and hands to enter into the place of becoming that which is where He is. His flesh has made the way and His blood given for the conscience clearance to commune with Him there.

The house that Jesus built is established in understanding.

But the pattern wasn’t only given for the building. The pattern was also given for the clothing to be worn while being with Him there. Fine linen, bejewelled, and an appropriateness to all that it stands for. That is the knowledge that fills the house.

He doesn’t just want to give you outside experience, He wants to build you further, as the master builder of His own house. And He wants you to have eyesight and clothing appropriate.


To the Church in Laodicea
…17You say, ‘I am rich; I have grown wealthy and need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. 18I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fireso that you may become rich, white garmentsso that you may be clothed and your shamefulnakedness not exposed, and salve to anointyour eyes so that you may see. 19Those I love, I rebuke and discipline. Therefore be earnest and repent.…

Frankie Reyes said:

I am looking for spiritual help and guidance and answers to my questions. My request is for mature men and women of God only who have a true connection with Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is spiritual "meat" I say this because what I have to say may require God to speak through you to answer. That's my only reason for saying this.

Let's get started. I was baptized with the Holy Spirit when the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit came down as a dove into me. I saw the Holy Spirit face to face.

I did not grow up in a religious home. I found Jesus on my own without church.

I was 16 at the time, I am now 27 years old. I have seen Jesus Christ probably about 9 times since the age of 16.

The problem I am having right now is this... I havent seen him or been with him in the last probably 3 years. Did I fall into a curse? No. Did I go my own way into a world of sin? No.

Ok so its been 3 years. Whats the problem? My problem is is I only know how to have a relationship with God if we're together. I dont know anything else.

I feel like me and God are in this long distant relationship like hes in another state. I call his phone, he dont pick up. I send him text messages he dont reply. I write him letters and he doesnt write back. I felt like this for years and years. And I disnt give up but right now I feel like I'm about to give up.

I wish I could just be a normal Christian who is content with just prayer and reading the bible and going to church. And is happy with just "feeling" his presence and thats it. I tried so hard to be like that.

But I cant its like its not me or for me to live like that with God. And I hate that so much because I just wanna be happy with God.

Another thing is, dont get me wrong I am not a satanist or some new age person. I know very well the dangers in all those things. I understand spiritual warfare very well. I even seen Satan face to face. The beast himself. In full natural form. As unnatural as that sounds...

But riddle me this, why is it so dang easy to see demons? I'm not kidding give me 24 hours and I'll have a story to tell.

But seeing angels? Super hard.
Seeing Jesus? Super hard.
Seeing devils? Easy.

Why is this? I mean if God is so available. Why is it so difficult? Its funny hearing this from someone who seen God 9 times huh?

This is where i am. Please help me because I'm at a place where if i dont truly have God in my life. It's either i have him or i dont have him. No middle spot is open for me. I want him supernaturally not in any other way. I dont wanna read my bible alone, I want to be with him as he teaches me the bible. I dont want to pray alone and never hear from him. I want to pray and God speak back. I want a relationship that is alive. Not where i am the only one that is communicating with him in everyday. But hes not doing anything with me.

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You cannot see the face of the Holy Spirit for He has no face, as Jesus said the Holy Spirit is like the wind, you hear it but cannot see where it's come from or where it's going.

There was only two times the Holy Spirit ever took on an appearance, once in the form of a dove and once in the form of tongues of fire.

Both those symbols had deep symbolic meaning to Jews, whom were given these signs.

First; The dove was an acceptable sacrifice in Mosaic law and was a provision in law given to those who could not afford a more expensive sacrifice. It was also a symbol of purity and of truth, as well as a symbol of new life.

The Person upon whom rested that symbol, was also the one whom would baptize with fire. (Matthew 3:11) This means that sign will never be repeated.

So what does fire represent? Fire represents purification (Malachi 3:3) and it is this symbol that rested upon the apostles because they were baptized by the Holy Spirit which the Son sent...

The fact of tongues that day represented the Gospel message going out in every language on earth, to all peoples of earth. The Gentiles and Jews alike becoming of one fold, instead of two.

On Pentecost they heard the wind, they saw the flames of fire in the shape of tongues, and they saw and heard each of the 120 speak in a Gentile tongue... all of which had deep spiritual meaning.

So when you say the Spirit descended on you as a dove, are you claiming to be the Christ, sent as a pure sacrifice for sin speaking only truth?

Because that's the claim of the symbolism given. That was why we knew Christ was the Messiah, anointed by God - that symbolism showed it as much as the Father from heaven speaking.

The Holy Spirit sent by Christ is a refining fire, it purifies you. It takes the person you were, and begins changing you into the person God would have you be, it remakes the sinful man and makes him into the image of God... it needs no sign, is invisible to the eye but it's effects in the man are mighty because you are a new birth, a new child of God instead of the man born in sin and slave to it...

You cannot see the Spirit but you can see it's affect, it's quantitative and measurable. It's life itself.

So when you say you saw the face of the Holy Spirit I find myself doubting your account.

This is the first time you've been on the forum. Since you've been saved what have you been doing? Where are the measurable, quantitative effects of the Spirit being in your life?

Relationships with God in prayer are lovely, but without seeing the affects of the Spirit upon you in your life, it's difficult to measure since what you claim is contrary to what we know to be true... and that is the symbolism for your claims will never rest upon a sinful man, and the Spirit is an invisible force, not in the visible spectrum unless He's giving a meaningful sign...

I won't flatter you... I will only speak truth. But maybe, there's something else going on, other than what you think...

Frankie Reyes said:

I am looking for spiritual help and guidance and answers to my questions. My request is for mature men and women of God only who have a true connection with Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is spiritual "meat" I say this because what I have to say may require God to speak through you to answer. That's my only reason for saying this.

Let's get started. I was baptized with the Holy Spirit when the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit came down as a dove into me. I saw the Holy Spirit face to face.

I did not grow up in a religious home. I found Jesus on my own without church.

I was 16 at the time, I am now 27 years old. I have seen Jesus Christ probably about 9 times since the age of 16.

The problem I am having right now is this... I havent seen him or been with him in the last probably 3 years. Did I fall into a curse? No. Did I go my own way into a world of sin? No.

Ok so its been 3 years. Whats the problem? My problem is is I only know how to have a relationship with God if we're together. I dont know anything else.

I feel like me and God are in this long distant relationship like hes in another state. I call his phone, he dont pick up. I send him text messages he dont reply. I write him letters and he doesnt write back. I felt like this for years and years. And I disnt give up but right now I feel like I'm about to give up.

I wish I could just be a normal Christian who is content with just prayer and reading the bible and going to church. And is happy with just "feeling" his presence and thats it. I tried so hard to be like that.

But I cant its like its not me or for me to live like that with God. And I hate that so much because I just wanna be happy with God.

Another thing is, dont get me wrong I am not a satanist or some new age person. I know very well the dangers in all those things. I understand spiritual warfare very well. I even seen Satan face to face. The beast himself. In full natural form. As unnatural as that sounds...

But riddle me this, why is it so dang easy to see demons? I'm not kidding give me 24 hours and I'll have a story to tell.

But seeing angels? Super hard.
Seeing Jesus? Super hard.
Seeing devils? Easy.

Why is this? I mean if God is so available. Why is it so difficult? Its funny hearing this from someone who seen God 9 times huh?

This is where i am. Please help me because I'm at a place where if i dont truly have God in my life. It's either i have him or i dont have him. No middle spot is open for me. I want him supernaturally not in any other way. I dont wanna read my bible alone, I want to be with him as he teaches me the bible. I dont want to pray alone and never hear from him. I want to pray and God speak back. I want a relationship that is alive. Not where i am the only one that is communicating with him in everyday. But hes not doing anything with me.

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Welcome! You said "I want Him supernaturally not in any other way". I want, I want, I want, this is your relationship, one sided. I suspect if demons are lurking you have been deceiving yourself for quite a while. Be blessed.

Most of us who become Christians don't have such supernatural encounters I know I've never seen or "heard" God in a direct way at all, at times I envy those who have. One thing that I have noticed is the "super spiritual" Christians all seem to suffer and go almost in unbelief when their "connection" to the supernatural wanes. It is almost like them going through withdrawal from a drug the way I've seen them act and talk. It may have well been that God wants to use you and knows that having all the supernatural stuff happen was the way to get your attention and prepare you to know his power in advance.
I recall when Jesus came back after his death and Resurrection and Thomas insisted that he wouldn't belief unless he saw the scars from the cross on Jesus. Jesus submitted to his request and made a statement that equated that equated those who believed without seeing (or the proof Thomas was given) are blessed. I am one of those people even though I have had a miracle or 3 in my life that I attribute to God that others could perhaps scoffed at, my faith in him was hard wrought through a lot of thinking and reading and studying. Recall what happened to Jesus followers when he died on the cross... You are like them right now as he is apparently gone for awhile and if you had read about them and studied you would know that what you are experiencing is history repeating itself as written in the Bible.
God is there but he isn't your crutch nor your drug connection to keep you high on the Holy Spirit. He wants you to know how others feel who are struggling to believe without any supernatural evidence imparted on them.
It is often hard to stand for God when you don't feel him in your life front and center but he is always there and like our muscles if you don't exercise we get weak, but the more we exercise the stronger we get and we have to continue to exercise throughout our lives or what strength we have vanishes over time. Faith is the same we have to go through strenuous times to strengthen our faith in him. God gave us physical bodies and intellect so we can do a lot on our own power. It is hard for people to believe someone who talks about miracles and they never have any or believe in them, but someone who perseveres through hardships and overcomes great obstacles that points to God as the source of their strength can be more easily believed by them because although they would want miracles all the time to make their live easy most of us realize life is a struggle and God isn't our sugar daddy we have to push through and ask him when we encounter situations that is beyond our ability to get through.

It may be you no longer have all the "feeling God' and visions again in your life, are you going to abandon him if God is no longer giving you your "fix" of the holy spirit or are you going to be very thankful of the gift you received that very few get and live your life knowing he cared to shower you with that attention for a season?

Frankie RYour said:

I don't have friends in the faith, I don't attend church services. I look for friends in the faith a lot, and I pray to find those friends soon. I don't attend church because ive been hurt by church. I know not all churches are the same, but its the same belief that not all churches are the same that allowed me to give many churches a chance, and they still hurt me horribly.

I love Jesus Christ, that's why it pains me so much to be going through this. I don't care if i dont see heaven. If it could just be me and Jesus on a plain field, with a single tree forever. That would be enough, Jesus is my heaven.

It would take me a very long time to explain in detail the encounters ive had in detail.

I am going through a lot in my life, and I need him severely. I just want clarity in my life, direction guidance. Please believe me when i say ive prayed and fasted.

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If you are born again, Jesus lives in You, He is in your heart as well as in the hearts of other believers. You don't need Him to visit you in a special spiritual encounter, you come across him everyday in other believers you meet. He said whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me' , I suggest you seek a mature Believer to share your problems with, if you can't find one IRL, we are here for you, when you share your problems here you have shared it with Jesus and he will speak through us to you. God bless

There is an awful lot of this to unpack and you probably won't like what I have to say (and what others have to say).

I saw Jesus once, early in my Christian life (30+ years ago). People who see the risen Jesus after he ascended to Heaven are rare - the New Testament talks only of Stephen when he is executed and Saul on the road to Damascus (and I'm not counting the OT here). So we are among a rare few people... but I don't recall hearing of anyone who saw Jesus multiple times. So the first point of contention is whether you really did see Jesus 9 times, if at all. Only you can be certain about that, so I think you should consider those encounters seriously.

If, however, even one of these encounters was real (and I think at least one probably was) then what was the purpose that Jesus placed on your life? Are you following it. Jesus is not going appear to someone just to make them feel he is real, otherwise he'd do it for everyone. It is more likely there is a purpose to this and if there is you should be fulfilling it and not relying on further spiritual experiences to boost your faith (think of Jesus' words to Thomas about seeing and believing).

Also the scriptures show that Jesus left behind the Holy Spirit for those who do believe and he is not in the habit of doing more than that. The Holy Spirit is God in us - our guide in the kingdom of God. But you only need a guide if you don't know where you are going. As you mature you don't need spiritual experiences (though they are welcome) to the same degree that you had when you started, because you already know what you should be doing.

So the purpose of all of these experiences should be to bring you to a position where you don't need constant visions of Jesus because you are living your life as a citizen of the kingdom of God. If you don't think you are ready to go it alone, then pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit (who will guide you into truth) and read the scriptures to mature yourself.

I hope that helps.