What theological things were you mistaken about in your growing knowledge of God's Word?

chad kincham · Oct 22, 2020

BobRyan said:
Do you have even one "spirit tormented forever in hell but not the soul"?? Or is your entire position based on inference in Matt 10:28 and looking at what it does not say?

Every angel that’s sitting in hell in chains right now, is proof spirits will be in hell.

2Peter 2:4 ; Jude 1:6

Angels are spirits, and have neither body OR soul,

chad kincham · Oct 22, 2020

BobRyan said:
Angel bodies are described in both OT and NT. Soul is the essential being of the person ... so you can get a new body and still be the same person (1 Cor 15, 2 Cor 5) -- but you can't get a new soul/spirit and be the same person.

It’s a well established fact that the OT describes Jesus’ OT theophanies as, the angel of the Lord, so your point there is erroneous.

Many theologians refer to the appearances of God in these passages, and others like them, as “theophanies” (Greek: theos = “God” + phaino = “appear”) or “Christophanies.” So these words mean “appearances of God” and “appearances of Christ,” respectively.

The Old Testament also mentions “the Angel of the Lord”1 on several occasions. For example, this “Angel” appeared to Manoah’s wife to tell her that she would give birth to Samson.

Christians generally agree that the above passages and many others that mention “the Angel of the Lord” are appearances of the pre-incarnate Christ (Christ before He came in the flesh).2 Let’s take a look at some of the characteristics of this “Angel” as given in the various passages.

The “Angel” is referred to with masculine pronouns (Genesis 16:13; Judges 6:21).
He is identified as God (Judges 6:11, 14; Zechariah 12:8).3
He performed miracles (Judges 6:21; 13:20).
Gideon and Manoah thought they would die because they saw the “Angel” face to face (Judges 6:22; 13:22).
The “Angel” accurately foretold future events (Judges 13:3).
His name is “wonderful” (Judges 13:18; cf., Isaiah 9:6).
He destroyed 185,000 soldiers of the Assyrian army in one night (2 Kings 19:35).4

While angels have occasionally performed some of these actions, such as miracles and prophecy, there are clear examples when “the Angel of the Lord” cannot be viewed as a normal angel. He is occasionally identified as God, accepted worship, and at least two people who saw Him thought they would die for seeing Him face to face. These same attributes and activities are clearly attributed to God elsewhere in Scripture.

There are a few other statements to consider. In Zechariah 3:1–2, “the Angel of the Lord” is distinguished from Yahweh because He talks to Yahweh. John 1:18 states, “No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.” So man has only seen the Son of God, not the Father or the Holy Spirit. Also, the “Commander of the army of the Lord” (Joshua 5:14) is likely the same individual as “the Angel of the Lord.” Joshua saw this “Commander” holding a sword, and He accepted Joshua’s worship, something the holy angels refuse to do (Revelation 19:10, 22:8–9). Finally, “the Angel of the Lord” does not make any appearances after the birth of Christ in the New Testament, although the risen Jesus did appear to Saul on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:1–6; 22:6–10; 26:14–19; 1 Corinthians 9:1; 15:8).

These truths have led many students of Scripture to conclude that “the Angel of the Lord” in the Old Testament is none other than Christ Himself. He is called God, given attributes of God, seen by people, worshiped, and distinguished from the Father and Spirit. So rather than undermining the uniqueness and importance of Christ, theophanies affirm the uniqueness of Jesus. They also show the intimacy of Godwith His creation, unlike the distant god of deism that some people incorrectly associate with the God of the Bible.

Besides making for an interesting Bible study, the appearances of Christ in the Old Testament confirm the fact that He existed prior to the Incarnation, just as He plainly stated: “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). The fact that Jesus is the Creator also demonstrates His existence prior to His first advent (John 1:1–3; Colossians 1:16).

BobRyan · Oct 23, 2020

chad kincham said:
It’s a well established fact that the OT describes Jesus’ OT theophanies as, the angel of the Lord

Agreed - how does that help the point you are making?

Ezek 1 is not talking about God the Son as angel of the Lord (for example)

4 As I looked, behold, a storm wind was coming from the north, a great cloud with fire flashing forth continually and a bright light around it, and in its midst something like glowing metal in the midst of the fire. 5 Within it there were figures resembling four living beings. And this was their appearance: they had human form. 6 Each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight and their feet were like a calf’s hoof, and they gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides were human hands. As for the faces and wings of the four of them, 9 their wings touched one another; their faces did not turn when they moved, each went straight forward. 10 As for the form of their faces, each had the face of a man; all four had the face of a lion on the right and the face of a bull on the left, and all four had the face of an eagle. 11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out above; each had two touching another being, and two covering their bodies. 12 And each went straight forward; wherever the spirit was about to go, they would go, without turning as they went.

Is 6:2
2 Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.

BTW I agree that the Angel of the Lord in the OT is most often the pre-incarnate Christ -- God the Son.

Andrewn · Oct 23, 2020

SaintCody777 said:
But growing up and trying to find my way in the faith over the years, since I began my journey, all in my twenties (I'm 25 now), I got carried away and ping ponged back and forth by many different doctrines (Hebrews 13:9).

Considering your relatively young age, you really have an extensive experience and deep philosophy. What was your experience like with EO? What denomination do you currently attend?

Keep up the good work.

Biltong65 · Oct 23, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
I am Sola Scriptura. I am for the Bible and the bible alone so that rules out any religion that is extra biblical like the Jehovah's Witnesses. In addition, Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed to post in the Christian section of the forums (Which is where we are at). I have posted here a long time (i.e. 32,500 posts). I know folks love to pigeon hole others into a religion because of a belief taught in the Bible. I mean, are you Catholic because you believe in the Trinity? Plus, JW's believe in soul sleep. I do not. I believe hell is a very real and literal place. I believe the story of Lazarus and the rich-man is very real, and it is not a metaphor. I just believe that after the Judgment, the wicked will eventually be destroyed in the lake of fire. It's called the second death for a reason ya know. Because it's based on the first death (Which is physical - whereby the body perishes in the grave). But this is not the place to debate this topic. If you want to learn about Conditional Immortality in how it is biblical and you want to debate it (after reading about the position put forth with the Bible), then check out this thread here:

A Defense of Dualistic Conditional Immortality

Side Note:

By the way, after Edward Fudge's ministry kicked off a long while back, many respectable Christians who are for Sola Scriptura have embraced Conditional Immortality.

I'm only asking because, so far as I know, JWs stand out (among other things) as not believing in a "Hell of Torment".

I'm not trying to pigeonhole you.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 23, 2020

Biltong65 said:
I'm only asking because, so far as I know, JWs stand out (among other things) as not believing in a "Hell of Torment".

I'm not trying to pigeonhole you.

You did not catch what I said I actually believe, my friend. I believe in a literal hell or place of torments. I believe the rich man was real and he literally was being tormented in the place of torments. I believe he was tormented by the flames. I believe that AFTER the wicked is in a literal hell, then they are judged, and then they are punished in the Lake of Fire for a certain amount of time, and then finally they are destroyed or erased from existence in the Lake of Fire. In Isaiah 66:22-24, we learn that on the New Earth (after the Millennium) that the saints eventually witness the lifeless corpses or remains of the wicked. In other words, I believe in Dualistic Conditional Immortality and not Traditional Conditional Immortality. There is a difference. Traditional Conditional Immortality proponents believe in soul sleep and they deny the existence of hell. I do not believe in that. I believe hell is a very real place.

Der Alte · Oct 23, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
...In Isaiah 66:22-24, we learn that on the New Earth (after the Millennium) that the saints eventually witness the lifeless corpses or remains of the wicked...

I think you are misinterpreting Isaiah 66:22-24.

Isaiah 66:22-24
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before Me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, saith the LORD.
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have rebelled against Me; for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Will the ashes of the unrighteous dead be in paradise where the saints are and the saints will be walking on those ashes for all eternity?
Rev 21:27 seems to say no.

Revelation 21:22-27
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Zao is life · Oct 24, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
What theological things were you mistaken about in your growing knowledge of God's Word?

Here is my list.

#1. I used to believe we had to follow the Old Testament laws in addition to the New Testament laws. Until one day I discovered verses that the New Covenant began with Christ's death and it ended the Old Covenant. In other words, I believe that believers today are to primarily follow the New Testament commands because we are New Covenant believers.

#2. I used to think that Christians could go to war and or they can respond with violence when attacked. But I have come to later learn that the Scriptures teach Non-Resistance (while believers live out their faith).

#3. I used to believe Romans 3:25 was a verse that proves past sins are forgiven for a believer. But this verse is actually talking about those who sinned while under the Old Covenant.

#4. I used to believe that believers can use the same miraculous gifts that the early church had. Today, I lean more towards Cessationism (even though I leave a little bit of room for mystery that I could be wrong).

#5. I used to believe in Eternal Conscious Torment. I believe I was mistaken on this belief after learning of the truth on
. This is the view that hell is a very real place of punishment, but the wicked will be destroyed (erased from existence) in the Lake of Fire after the Judgment and after they have been punished for a set amount of time for their sins. Note: At one point in time, I was on the fence on these two beliefs, until Scripture convinced me otherwise.

#6. I used to think believers could be rich by how we generally understand that word. Meaning, I thought we could be millionaires and still be in service to Christ. But I have learned that this is not so. 1 Timothy 6 is a big refutation of that idea.

#7. John 19:14 says the sixth hour is when Pilate mocks Jesus before a crowd. Yet, on the sixth hour, Scripture says darkness came upon the land after he was on the cross (Matthew 27:45). Many have tried to resolve this supposed contradiction in the Bible in many ways. I used to think the sixth hour in John 19:14 was in reference to a flash forward in time.
However, I abandoned this idea.

I now believe there two different clocks here. Christ’s clock (or hours); And the normal reckoning of hours within a calendar day.

1. Christ’s 1st hour. This the 1st hour of when Christ is betrayed into the hands of sinners
(Christ’s 1st hour: See Matthew 26:45). This is Christ’s hour because Christ’s says elsewhere, “My hour has not yet come.” (John 2:4).
2. Early the next morning, Jesus is judged by Pilate (a Roman) early in the morning.
3. Jesus is then whipped and mocked.
4. Christ’s 6th hour. This is after six hours have past from the previous night of the 1st hour of when Jesus was betrayed into the hands of sinners (Matthew 26:45): Pilate sets Jesus before a Jewish audience and says to them, “Behold your king!” (Christ’s 6th hour: See John 19:14).
5. Then at 9:00AM (3rd hour of the Day): Jesus is crucified.
6. Darkness within the sky comes upon the land at 12:00PM (6th hour of the Day).
7. Then at 3:00PM (9th hour of the Day) Jesus dies and He becomes our Passover Lamb, Christ is sacrificed for us (man).

#8. I used to think time exists like it does in time travel movies, books, comics, etc.; Meaning, I used to believe God existed in all points in time (past, present, and future). However, I have abandoned this idea based on what Scripture says. I believe God simply exists in the present moment of time like all of us do (However, God can obviously see what is going to happen before it happens, though).

#9. At one point in time, I briefly believed for a few days in the Pre-Wrath model. Today, I hold to the view that there is a potential Pre-Trib Rapture, and another event that is the gathering up of the saints by angels in the Middle of the Tribulation (after the abomination of desolations takes place).

#10. I believed in Once Saved Always Saved very briefly (Note: I think it was like 1 or 2 hours), until I researched the Scriptures later that night and learned that it was false.

#11. I used to believe that Christians had to tithe, until I learned that tithing was Old Covenant and that Paul tells us in Corinthians to give what God has purposed in our heart to give.

#12. I used to think church was going to a big building to worship God amongst a bunch of strangers, or people you could not connect with, but I have come to discover that the church are a people, and the early church gathered in each other's homes, and they were close friends and they knew each other.

I've never thought about my "list". I'm aware that each one of us grows in Christ and in understanding as we progress as pilgrims in this world, but I find your post very interesting, and I agree with you about "time." The only time that exists in the universe right now, at this very moment, is right now, at this very moment. The future does not exist right now, and the past never will.

Time is only something that can be measured because of the existence of God's creation, and only exists in creation. It exists because of activity in creation - the life-cycle of stars, planets, and galaxies, and the things that occur in creation and the "afterwards" of those occurrences. Time exists between birth and death, but God transcends all that. Eternity exists right now, at this very moment - it IS, always was, and shall always be. If anyone is in Christ now, he or she is in Christ for all eternity, and He exists from eternity.

I also lean toward cessationalism, but that has not changed since I first believed the gospel. I went to a Charismatic church in the morning and a Baptist in the evening (or was it the other way around?), and saw from "Day 1" that some of the things taught in Charismatic churches was not according to truth - those days they all insisted that talking in tongues was the sign that you have been baptised in the Holy Spirit; and I saw how the scriptures refuted that teaching, because the gift of tongues was only one of a number of gifts given to the body of Christ.

I also believe the gift of tongues must involve miraculously speaking a human language that is foreign to the speaker, because those who heard the disciples speaking in tongues on the Day of Pentecost (the first time the gift of tongues is mentioned) were from different nations all around the Roman Empire, and had gathered in Jerusalem for the appointed time (Pentecost); and Acts tells us clearly and unambiguously that they heard the disciples speaking of the things of God to them in their own languages.

I don't see where it suddenly became "tongues of angels" - to me, "Though I speak with the tongues of ANGELS and have not love" (1 Cor 13:1) does not mean Paul is saying that there IS such a thing as "tongues of angels". IMO Paul is simply saying that even IF we could, hypothetically speaking, speak with tongues of ANGELS but have not love, it is nothing. Anything more is just reading into the text and statement of Paul things that are not there. The gift of tongues given on the Day of Pentecost consisted of human languages, given for a purpose - it was never spiritual "languages of angels". The only times in the Bible we read about angels speaking in any tongue, was when they were appearing as humans, speaking to humans in their own languages.

I see Christians reading a lot of things into the text that are not there - often because it's what they were taught when they first became Christians, or subsequent to becoming Christians. Most Christians tend to interpret what they read through learning the "correct" interpretation from other fallibles, instead of asking God to give them understanding of what they read in the scriptures, and trusting Him to give it to them - and even then, we grow in understanding. We don't get it all overnight, nor do we have perfect understanding before we die. We all lack a lot - and not only do we all lack a lot when it comes to understanding, we all lack a lot when it comes to the humility needed to admit this fact to ourselves.

I've gone way off-topic, and have not answered your OP (my apologies). Unfortunately I do not make mental notes of how much my understanding has changed over time. I know it has, but I don't make mental notes of it - but I have never taken what is taught from behind pulpits as true without first reading the text and the Bible myself. If I feel there is a discrepancy with something (a seeming "contradiction", I will ask God to help me understand, and search until I find (but I do not find everything I want to know - but God gives us all what we need to know).

Andrewn · Oct 24, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
I believe God preserved His Word today by divine intervention with the KJB in the English (i.e. the world language of today). Yeah, it's not Modern English as we know it, but it is close enough to piece together and read normally and all we have to do is look in an English dictionary on the tough words.

I confess that I don't read posts with quotations from the KJV.

I do use it online sometimes and refer to it with difficult passages. But it is not my normal daily source.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 24, 2020

Der Alte said:
I think you are misinterpreting Isaiah 66:22-24.

Isaiah 66:22-24
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before Me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, saith the LORD.
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have rebelled against Me; for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
Will the ashes of the unrighteous dead be in paradise where the saints are and the saints will be walking on those ashes for all eternity?
Rev 21:27 seems to say no.

Revelation 21:22-27
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Revelation 21:22-27 is in context to inside the city of New Jerusalem. Outside the gates of the city are dogs, sorcerers, whoremongers, murderers, idolaters, etc.

14 “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Revelation 22:14-15).

Der Alte · Oct 24, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
Revelation 21:22-27 is in context to inside the city of New Jerusalem. Outside the gates of the city are dogs, sorcerers, whoremongers, murderers, idolaters, etc.
14 “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” (Revelation 22:14-15).

What is your point? Will the righteous in the city be going outside the city and walking on the ashes of the unrighteous?

Bible Highlighter · Oct 24, 2020

Der Alte said:
What is your point? Will the righteous in the city be going outside the city and walking on the ashes of the unrighteous?

Does that happen today when people are cremated? Surely not.

Der Alte · Oct 24, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
Does that happen today when people are cremated? Surely not.

Doesn't answer my question does it?

Isaiah 66:22-24
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before Me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, saith the LORD.
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have rebelled against Me; for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Will the ashes of the unrighteous dead be in paradise where the saints are and the saints will be walking on those ashes for all eternity?

Bible Highlighter · Oct 24, 2020

Der Alte said:
Doesn't answer my question does it?

Isaiah 66:22-24
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before Me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, saith the LORD.
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have rebelled against Me; for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
Will the ashes of the unrighteous dead be in paradise where the saints are and the saints will be walking on those ashes for all eternity?

My replies resolved your dilemma. You just do not want to see any possible solution because eternal torment is the doctrine you have ever known. You also never changed your mind about any belief. I don’t believe this bodes well for a person because it is the kind of attitude that says one is always right about everything no matter what. That is in part why I created this thread. Who is willing to admit when they may be wrong?

Der Alte · Oct 24, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
My replies resolved your dilemma. You just do not want to see any possible solution because eternal torment is the doctrine you have ever known. You also never changed your mind about any belief. I don’t believe this bodes well for a person because it is the kind of attitude that says one is always right about everything no matter what. That is in part why I created this thread. Who is willing to admit when they may be wrong?

You need to talk to yourself about being unwilling to change. You "answered" my question with a question which did not answer anything for me.
This is a yes or no question. "Will the ashes of the unrighteous dead be in paradise where the saints are and the saints will be walking on those ashes for all eternity?"

Bible Highlighter · Oct 24, 2020

Der Alte said:
You need to talk to yourself about being unwilling to change. You "answered" my question with a question which did not answer anything for me.
This is a yes or no question. "Will the ashes of the unrighteous dead be in paradise where the saints are and the saints will be walking on those ashes for all eternity?"

I already gave you my answers. Please go back and read them again.

Der Alte · Oct 24, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
I already gave you my answers. Please go back and read them again.

I will take this evasion as an indication you cannot or will not answer my question. A simple yes or no will suffice. After providing your yes or no answer you may explain it.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 24, 2020

Der Alte said:
I will take this evasion as an indication you cannot or will not answer my question. A simple yes or no will suffice. After providing your yes or no answer you may explain it.

Have a great day!

chad kincham · Oct 24, 2020

Andrewn said:
6) For a short period of time, I believed in pretrib or prewrath rapture.

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BobRyan said:
Agreed - how does that help the point you are making?

Ezek 1 is not talking about God the Son as angel of the Lord (for example)

4 As I looked, behold, a storm wind was coming from the north, a great cloud with fire flashing forth continually and a bright light around it, and in its midst something like glowing metal in the midst of the fire. 5 Within it there were figures resembling four living beings. And this was their appearance: they had human form. 6 Each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight and their feet were like a calf’s hoof, and they gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides were human hands. As for the faces and wings of the four of them, 9 their wings touched one another; their faces did not turn when they moved, each went straight forward. 10 As for the form of their faces, each had the face of a man; all four had the face of a lion on the right and the face of a bull on the left, and all four had the face of an eagle. 11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out above; each had two touching another being, and two covering their bodies. 12 And each went straight forward; wherever the spirit was about to go, they would go, without turning as they went.

Is 6:2
2 Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.

BTW I agree that the Angel of the Lord in the OT is most often the pre-incarnate Christ -- God the Son.

The person i made the comment to, claims there is no eternal punishment- my point to them when they gave scripture showing soul and body are destroyed in hell, was that their proof text omitted the spirit being destroyed in hell, to which he replied with the claim there are no spirits in hell, and challenged me to show evidence that there is any such thing.
My response was the angels in hell in chains awaiting judgment prove there are spirits in hell, since angels are spirits and have no body or soul.
His response is to claim that angels in the OT that appeared in bodily form prove they have bodies.
Most appearances of the angel of the Lord in human form in the OT are Jesus, in a theophany.
I’m surprised you didn’t follow the thread back, instead of wanting me to explain the whole thing.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 24, 2020

chad kincham said:
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The person i made the comment to, claims there is no eternal punishment- my point to them when they gave scripture showing soul and body are destroyed in hell, was that their proof text omitted the spirit being destroyed in hell, to which he replied with the claim there are no spirits in hell, and challenged me to show evidence that there is any such thing.
My response was the angels in hell in chains awaiting judgment prove there are spirits in hell, since angels are spirits and have no body or soul.
His response is to claim that angels in the OT that appeared in bodily form prove they have bodies.
Most appearances of the angel of the Lord in human form in the OT are Jesus, in a theophany.
I’m surprised you didn’t follow the thread back, instead of wanting me to explain the whole thing.

I might have said this to you before, but I believe in Dualistic Conditional Immortality.
This is the view that he’ll is a very real and literal place of punishment for the wicked, but after the judgment, the Lake of Fire will destroy or erase the wicked.

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