Well, that's nonsense. I had your verses that supposedly disprove OSAS. And you challenged me (post 631) to read them, which I did.
So now we're at the point where the Biblical evidence that appears to support OSAS needs to be considered.
I haven't made any such case. If they fall away, they may come back; but it they don't, they never had Saving Faith.
You cannot disprove OSAS by claiming that a person who never was saved did not wind up being saved in eternity.
Emphasis mine in blue. This seems to support OSAS.
And this one really suggests OSAS!
No comment from you about these passages?
I did comment. Here is the other side of the coin.
2 Peter 1 Warning about failing
(10) So then, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election certain, for if you keep on doing this you will never fail.
(11) For in this way you will be generously granted entry into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus, the Messiah.
(12) Therefore, I intend to keep on reminding you about these things, even though you already know them and are firmly established in the truth that you now have.
Heb 6 Lost salvation
(4) For it is impossible to keep on restoring to repentance time and again people who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have become partners with the Holy Spirit,
(5) who have tasted the goodness of God's word and the powers of the coming age,
(6) and who have fallen away, as long as they continue to crucify the Son of God to their own detriment by exposing him to public ridicule.
Joh 15 Believers cast into the fire
(1) Jesus said to his disciples: I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.
(2) He cuts away every branch of mine that doesn't produce fruit. But he trims clean every branch that does produce fruit, so that it will produce even more fruit.
(3) You are already clean because of what I have said to you.
(4) Stay joined to me, and I will stay joined to you. Just as a branch cannot produce fruit unless it stays joined to the vine, you cannot produce fruit unless you stay joined to me.
(5) I am the vine, and you are the branches. If you stay joined to me, and I stay joined to you, then you will produce lots of fruit. But you cannot do anything without me.
(6) If you don't stay joined to me, you will be thrown away. You will be like dry branches that are gathered up and burned in a fire.
Rom 11 Keep trusting or you will be cut off
(17) You Gentiles are like branches of a wild olive tree that were made to be part of a cultivated olive tree. You have taken the place of some branches that were cut away from it. And because of this, you enjoy the blessings that come from being part of that cultivated tree.
(18) But don't think you are better than the branches that were cut away. Just remember that you are not supporting the roots of that tree. Its roots are supporting you.
(19) Maybe you think those branches were cut away, so that you could be put in their place.
(20) That's true enough. But they were cut away because they did not have faith, and you are where you are because you do have faith. So don't be proud, but be afraid.
(21) If God cut away those natural branches, couldn't he do the same to you?
(22) Now you see both how kind and how hard God can be. He was hard on those who fell, but he was kind to you. And he will keep on being kind to you, if you keep on trusting in his kindness. Otherwise, you will be cut away too.
Mat 24 Warning about loosing faith
(13) But if you keep on being faithful right to the end, you will be saved.
Rev 2 Salvation is conditional on remaining faithful to the end
(10) Don't worry about what you will suffer. The devil will throw some of you into jail, and you will be tested and made to suffer for ten days. But if you are faithful until you die, I will reward you with a glorious life.
1Co 9 Paul worries about being castaway
(27) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
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1 Timothy 4:1 "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons."
1 Timothy 1:19 Cling to your faith in Christ, and keep your conscience clear. For some people have deliberately violated their consciences; as a result, their faith has been shipwrecked.
2 Peter 2:20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.
2 Peter 3:17 Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.
Hbr 6:4 - "It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace."
We know the faithful are secure. The problem is when people say "You
cannot loose your salvation."
O' well people will find out one day. In the old days it was fire and brimstone, now it is fluffy cotton wool.
There are many more similar scriptures.
