Trump v Biden - Last Debate

FireDragon76 · Oct 23, 2020

Akita Suggagaki said:
I hate to mix politics and theology but...I think you are right. I am very pessimistic about the U.S. From top to bottom we see so much lie and distortion in political messages. Like Pilot we can ask, 'What is truth?" We wont find it in our leaders. And they are picked by us, although we do not have very good choice.

I understand this sentiment completely.

I think the great mistake of American life is that many people in the US have turned politics into a religion. This is precisely how the Religious Right has corrupted Christian discourse in this country. Of course, Christian discourse in this country was shallow to begin with, but this is all the more reason each of us needs to dive deeper beyond the many false shepherds and blind guides who will try to manipulate us into exchanging the truth for a lie.

FireDragon76 · Oct 23, 2020

cow451 said:
I watched Top Gun. Much better viewing.

I watched the debate and it's the first time in a long while I wanted two hours of my life back. It was devoid of anything new or significant. The media fawning over the civility of it just shows what useful idiots they are. The staged civility is part of the illusory game that doesn't help the American people.

NerdGirl · Oct 23, 2020

Blade said:
Like I said in another thread the classic "if you liked Trump you still do if you never liked Trump you still don't"

Not sure what some watch. Its so easy to take what "BOTH" said go look into it watch the video reread the tweet. I did. Trump was not 100% truthful nor was Biden. If you lean left.. Biden did great. told the truth. If you lean right President Trump did great he won. So I pass

This.

Trump supporters: "Trump totally won that debate."
Biden supporters: "Biden totally won that debate."
Can we just get this election over with already.

RestoreTheJoy · Oct 23, 2020

NxNW said:
You might check his website. You might also note that the Democrats actually have a platform. The GOP does not have a platform at all.

I said Biden didn't articulate any plan - and he did not. The fact that someone else put a website together is pretty meaningless.

And no, the GOP doesn't have a NEW platform. It has continued on the same platform.

FireDragon76 · Oct 23, 2020

RestoreTheJoy said:
I said Biden didn't articulate any plan - and he did not. The fact that someone else put a website together is pretty meaningless.

And no, the GOP doesn't have a NEW platform. It has continued on the same platform.

This simply isn't true. Biden might not have articulated every detail, but he did list rough plans. Trump, on the other hand, routinely dodged questions about his policies by deflecting to Biden's alleged record, or more commonly, by simply pedaling in baseless assertions and wishful thinking, or simply dismissing that the concerns raised were real and legitimate (due to a profound lack of empathy).

RestoreTheJoy · Oct 23, 2020

FireDragon76 said:
This simply isn't true. Biden might not have articulated every detail, but he did list rough plans. Trump, on the other hand, routinely dodged questions about his policies by deflecting to Biden's alleged record, or more commonly, by simply pedaling in baseless assertions and wishful thinking, or simply dismissing that the concerns raised were real and legitimate (due to a profound lack of empathy).

Really? I watched it. What "rough plans" did Biden articulate?

I heard a lot of "I'll get people together in a room, look them in the eye, and make it happen" nonsense, along with fear-mongering about that "empty chair at the table".

His plan can be summarized in one phrase: Go Left.

NxNW · Oct 23, 2020

JohnDB said:
The one where his son was selling access to himself for Ukraine and China and even getting a cut for himself.

I'm unaware of any credible evidence that such a scandal exists.

NxNW · Oct 23, 2020

RestoreTheJoy said:
I said Biden didn't articulate any plan - and he did not. The fact that someone else put a website together is pretty meaningless.

I see no need to verbally rehash what's already been stipulated on the website.

cow451 · Oct 23, 2020

Bobber said:
If you're feeling bewildered that way I'd encourage you to seek God and pray about it. Thank him that he's revealing to you by revelation in your spirit who would be best at this particular time. Keep in mind what God imparts to you by revelation might go against what your natural inclination might be. Be willing to accept that. God see's all angles of all things.

There are times we need to acknowledge our natural minds can become subject to deception regardless of how much in the know we might pride ourselves to be. Scripture says in the last days evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived. 2 Tim 3:13 Revelation from God into your spirit can transcend all that.

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Matt 16:17

God revealed to me to oppose Donald Trump at every turn. I voted last week.

Bobber · Oct 23, 2020

cow451 said:
God revealed to me to oppose Donald Trump at every turn. I voted last week.

And if I was your Pastor I'd say that's what you need to do. Always be flexible however and be willing to accept that God might tell you to vote for someone another time which with everything in your natural mind doesn't make sense. I'd also tell you no matter who you vote for Biden or Trump NEVER, EVER, EVER allow a spirit of devilish hate to possess your spirit and mind. If any enters that realm they don't know what spirit they're really of. Love, joy and peace will leave one's life faster than a snowball on a hot July day.

MIDutch · Oct 23, 2020

Akita Suggagaki said:
Certainly not with CORONA Virus. he hardly acknowledges it is a problem.

And when he does say something about it, he can't help himself but lie about it:

In debate, Trump incorrectly says Arizona's COVID-19 spike is 'now gone'

cow451 · Oct 23, 2020

Bobber said:
And if I was your Pastor I'd say that's what you need to do. Always be flexible however and be willing to accept that God might tell you to vote for someone another time which with everything in your natural mind doesn't make sense. I'd also tell you no matter who you vote for Biden or Trump NEVER, EVER, EVER allow a spirit of devilish hate to possess your spirit and mind. If any enters that realm they don't know what spirit they're really of. Love, joy and peace will leave one's life faster than a snowball on a hot July day.

My last pastor told me that Trump was chosen by God. God told me not to suffer fools.

cappycappy · Oct 23, 2020

I loved it when Biden said "People are learning to do with covid."

Trump saying 'People are learning to live with it" is the wrong approach. It's like saying "it is what it is, who cares."

Hank77 · Oct 23, 2020

cappycappy said:
I loved it when Biden said "People are learning to do with covid."

Trump saying 'People are learning to live with it" is the wrong approach. It's like saying "it is what it is, who cares."

Did you mean Biden said 'die with covid'?

FireDragon76 · Oct 23, 2020

cappycappy said:
I loved it when Biden said "People are learning to do with covid."

Trump saying 'People are learning to live with it" is the wrong approach. It's like saying "it is what it is, who cares."

Biden must have some of that Irish wit with words. So much for "Sleepy Joe".

disciple Clint · Oct 24, 2020

KCfromNC said:
Yes, Trump supporters, let's turn this into a referendum on which candidate is more honest. That's bound to be a winning strategy for the incumbent. lol, come on, at least find a subject where Donald isn't polling worse than the challenger.

You might want to be somewhat concerned about the possibility that Mr Biden has issues well beyond basic honesty. Do you want to elect a president who is up for sale to the highest bidder. It would appear that Mr Biden may well compromised and both Russia and China have leverage on him.

KCfromNC · Oct 24, 2020

disciple Clint said:
You might want to be somewhat concerned about the possibility that Mr Biden has issues well beyond basic honesty.

What evidence would lead me to worry about that?

cow451 · Oct 24, 2020

disciple Clint said:
You might want to be somewhat concerned about the possibility that Mr Biden has issues well beyond basic honesty. Do you want to elect a president who is up for sale to the highest bidder. It would appear that Mr Biden may well compromised and both Russia and China have leverage on him.

In 2016 we elected a President up for sale or blackmail.

FireDragon76 · Oct 24, 2020

cow451 said:
In 2016 we elected a President up for sale or blackmail.

He's a Russian asset in all but name. The Russians have not given up their old game after the Iron Curtain came down. They get blue jeans and vague rhetoric about capitalism and democracy, we get Kremlin psy-ops.

Andrewn · Oct 24, 2020

RestoreTheJoy said:
Biden doesn't have a plan. He didn't articulate ANYTHING. He simply reverted to 1) attacks on the other guy, 2) "I'm going to put together a commission to study it", and 3) manipulative anecdotes i.e. "very dark winter" and "empty chair at the table". Not one word on anything he would do or how.

It's amazing how 2 people can watch the same debate or read the same Bible and reach diametrically opposed conclusions?

People are hopelessly biased!

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