Trump Executive Order turns many civil servants into at-will fireable employees

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‘Stunning’ Executive Order Would Politicize Civil Service

President Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order creating a new classification of “policy-making” federal employees that could strip swaths of the federal workforce of civil service protections just before the next president is sworn into office.

“This executive order strips due process rights and protections from perhaps hundreds of thousands of federal employees and will enable political appointees and other officials to hire and fire these workers at will,” Kelley said. “Through this order, President Trump has declared war on the professional civil service by giving himself the authority to fill the government with his political cronies who will pledge their unwavering loyalty to him—not to America.”

“If you think about examples of how this could play out, Dr. [Anthony] Fauci could be fired, as well as individuals at the [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] who are producing analysis about the spread of the coronavirus, social distancing and the importance of masks,” Kettl said. “You could have people within the State Department raising questions about the administration’s expansion of efforts to engage in crackdowns and change other policies who could be fired. The people counting the number of immigrant children who cannot be reunited with their parents could be fired. There’s no end to it because the biggest risk is that anyone who says anything that would be in opposition to the administration’s policy could be viewed as in a policy-making position, put in Schedule F and fired.”

“The [1883] Pendleton Act is clearly in the sights of this executive order,” said Donald Kettl, the Sid Richardson professor at the University of Texas at Austin’s Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs. “It wants to undo what the Pendleton Act and subsequent civil service laws tried to accomplish, which was to create a career civil service with expertise that is both accountable to elected officials but also a repository of expertise in government. The argument here is that anyone involved in policymaking can be swept into this new classification, and once they’re in they’re subject to political review and dismissal for any reason.”
 

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Honestly, this just seems like backdating what he's already been doing across government bodies over the last four years anyway.

Let the baby have his tantrum, and I'd love to see what absolute hilarity a dem-led administration could have with this precendent.
 
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It seems like this one could be undone rather easily.

Bear in mind the process will be more efficient than we're used to as the next non-Trump incumbent won't spend 25% of the job term playing golf
 
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Bear in mind the process will be more efficient than we're used to as the next non-Trump incumbent won't spend 25% of the job term playing golf

It's also safe to assume that any successor would be able to read better and faster than Trump. Think of how much more work can get done when the staff doesn't have to draw all of those pictures.
 
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‘Stunning’ Executive Order Would Politicize Civil Service

President Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order creating a new classification of “policy-making” federal employees that could strip swaths of the federal workforce of civil service protections just before the next president is sworn into office.

“This executive order strips due process rights and protections from perhaps hundreds of thousands of federal employees and will enable political appointees and other officials to hire and fire these workers at will,” Kelley said. “Through this order, President Trump has declared war on the professional civil service by giving himself the authority to fill the government with his political cronies who will pledge their unwavering loyalty to him—not to America.”

“If you think about examples of how this could play out, Dr. [Anthony] Fauci could be fired, as well as individuals at the [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] who are producing analysis about the spread of the coronavirus, social distancing and the importance of masks,” Kettl said. “You could have people within the State Department raising questions about the administration’s expansion of efforts to engage in crackdowns and change other policies who could be fired. The people counting the number of immigrant children who cannot be reunited with their parents could be fired. There’s no end to it because the biggest risk is that anyone who says anything that would be in opposition to the administration’s policy could be viewed as in a policy-making position, put in Schedule F and fired.”

“The [1883] Pendleton Act is clearly in the sights of this executive order,” said Donald Kettl, the Sid Richardson professor at the University of Texas at Austin’s Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs. “It wants to undo what the Pendleton Act and subsequent civil service laws tried to accomplish, which was to create a career civil service with expertise that is both accountable to elected officials but also a repository of expertise in government. The argument here is that anyone involved in policymaking can be swept into this new classification, and once they’re in they’re subject to political review and dismissal for any reason.”

Trump's goal is authoritarianism. Process, procedure, law...these things are obstacles keeping him from his goal.
 
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He must be casting nets on the swamp for their replacements.

May all their jobs be temporary. Very temporary.

Maybe he's getting tired of all of the skinny-suit-wearing 20-somethings running around crafting policy like they have the experience to justify their positions.
 
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Maybe he's getting tired of all of the skinny-suit-wearing 20-somethings running around crafting policy like they have the experience to justify their positions.

The male ones, anyway
 
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It seems like this one could be undone rather easily.
The policy itself, sure, but the damage it can cause, not so much. Careers destroyed, institutional expertise wiped out - he has already hollowed out the State Department and has made inroads in the science departments.
 
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The policy itself, sure, but the damage it can cause, not so much. Careers destroyed, institutional expertise wiped out - he has already hollowed out the State Department and has made inroads in the science departments.

idk if I'd sweat this one too much if he loses the election. Even if they commit to the process in the lame duck session (which seems silly, but I suppose I wouldn't put it past them), it's going to take time to compile these reports and go through the process - time that doesn't really exist.

If he wins, that's different.
 
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Maybe Biden's first act as President should be to sign an Executive Order cancelling all of Trump's Executive Orders. He could do it at the Inauguration right after being sworn in.
 
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This country continues to drift toward being run like either an organized crime syndicate or a first world Idi Amin. Or, maybe a combination.
Drift implies a random, unintentional process. It would be nice to think that accounts for it, but that would llikely naive.
 
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It's such a shame that an evil but clueless president has surrounded himself with evil but more astute advisors who put these ideas in his head.

Were it not for them, the president would just be looting and pillaging the world seeking to fatten his wallet, but these pesky people persuade him it might be fun to show his power and victimize innocent citizens for sport.
 
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Drift implies a random, unintentional process. It would be nice to think that accounts for it, but that would llikely naive.
Drift is also a natural process that happens to a boat that is piloted by an incompetent Captain when mechanical problem occurs and he asks Rudy Giuliani what to do.
 
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