Peter identifies Jesus as our God and Savior

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2 Peter 1:1
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

2 Peter 1:11
and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 1:1
τοῦ θεοῦ ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ

2 Peter 1:11
τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ

2 Peter 1:1
our God and Savior, Jesus Christ

2 Peter 1:11
our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

We have a second person possessive pronoun "Our" modifying two different improper nouns (God and Savior) joined by "and" (Kia) to identify a proper noun (Jesus) [Granville/Sharp's]. Therefore, by basic grammar, we are identifying Jesus as God and Savior. We don't even have to know the Greek to see that Jesus is being called both God and Savior/ Lord and Savior in Peters 2nd Epistle.

But for those interested in the Greek here is the comparison of 1:1 and 1:11.

τοῦ is the same.
ἡμῶν is the same.
καὶ
is the same.
Σωτῆρος
is the same.
Ἰησοῦ
is the same.
Χριστοῦ·
is the same.

And all in the same order.

The only difference is the noun "Θεοῦ" in v.1, while "Κυρίου" is in v.11.

So if he wants to deny that Jesus is "God" ("theou") in v.1, then he has to deny that Jesus is "Lord" ("kuriou") in v.11. Otherwise he's being inconsistent and dishonest with the text. To say otherwise is proof positive one has an agenda when reading scripture and using eisegesis rather than exegesis of the biblical text in question.

hope this helps !!!


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It's sad that some people need to look at the original Greek to come to the conclusion that Jesus is God. But OK. Whatever helps them to it is great. Nice thread.
You would be surprised how many people deny the truth that Jesus is God in the English with 2 Peter 1:1 yet one cannot when you break it down in the Greek. Well I guess you can still be in denial but it just reveals how foolish that is to take that position.
 
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It's sad that some people need to look at the original Greek to come to the conclusion that Jesus is God.

Firstly, I agree with you. Having said that, being able to verify translations & interpretations from the Greek is invaluable, especially now that we have so many competing translations.
 
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2 Peter 1:1
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:
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...So if he wants to deny that Jesus is "God" ("theou") in v.1, then he has to deny that Jesus is "Lord" ("kuriou") in v.11. Otherwise he's being inconsistent and dishonest with the text. To say otherwise is proof positive one has an agenda when reading scripture and using eisegesis rather than exegesis of the biblical text in question.

I just want to say that Jesus and God both are Lords, because:

A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Ps. 110:1

When Peter says “our God and Savior Jesus Christ”, he can be speaking of both, God and Jesus and 2 Peter 1:1 is not good argument for the claim that Jesus is the one and only true God, especially when Jesus Himself say Father is greater than him and there is only one true God.

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3

…the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

If you believe Jesus is the God, shouldn’t you believe what he says?
 
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I just want to say that Jesus and God both are Lords, because:

A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Ps. 110:1

When Peter says “our God and Savior Jesus Christ”, he can be speaking of both, God and Jesus and 2 Peter 1:1 is not good argument for the claim that Jesus is the one and only true God, especially when Jesus Himself say Father is greater than him and there is only one true God.

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3

…the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

If you believe Jesus is the God, shouldn’t you believe what he says?
We are discussing 2 Peter 1:1 and 1:11.

Diversion noted.
 
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When Peter says “our God and Savior Jesus Christ”, he can be speaking of both, God and Jesus and 2 Peter 1:1 is not good argument for the claim that Jesus is the one and only true God, especially when Jesus Himself say Father is greater than him and there is only one true God.

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3

…the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

If you believe Jesus is the God, shouldn’t you believe what he says?

John 14:8-11 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.

John 10:31-38 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.” Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken—do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”
 
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This would contradict what Peter taught in other places, such as Acts of the Apostles 5:30-31
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

God raised Jesus and made him a saviour.

the KJV words it appropriately:

2 Peter 1:1
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ
Peter is distinguishing between God the Father & Jesus again, which is why he mentions them both here.

He continues to reference both the Father & Jesus in verse 2
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord
 
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This would contradict what Peter taught in other places, such as Acts of the Apostles 5:30-31


God raised Jesus and made him a saviour.

the KJV words it appropriately:

2 Peter 1:1

Peter is distinguishing between God the Father & Jesus again, which is why he mentions them both here.

He continues to reference both the Father & Jesus in verse 2

The Greek of 1 Peter 1:1b can be understood written literally as:

"Equally honored, our obtained faith, by righteousness, a vessel of God, ours and our savior, Jesus Christ:"

"τοῖς ἰσότιμον ἡμῖν λαχοῦσι πίστιν ἐν δικαιοσύνῃ τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ·"
 
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Firstly, I agree with you. Having said that, being able to verify translations & interpretations from the Greek is invaluable, especially now that we have so many competing translations.
I have found the Eastern Greek Orthodox translation of the NT EOB which can be D/L or viewed online free. See link below.
…..Greek is now, and for 2000+ years has been, the language of the Eastern Greek Orthodox church. Who, better than the native Greek speaking scholars who translated the “literal” Greek Eastern Orthodox Bible [EOB], know the correct meaning of Greek words, e.g. “Gehenna,””aiōnios,”“kolasis” etc?
EOB, footnote pg. 180

“Hades is the realm of the dead. The upper part of hades was considered to be luminous and it was called “paradise” or "Abraham's bosom.” Hades is not to be confused with hell (Gehenna) which is the final place of state or place of the damned (“the lake of’ fire”).”
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The Eastern Greek Orthodox Bible EOB—New Testament 96
Matthew 25:46 Then he will answer them saying ‘Amen. I tell you: as much as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.' “These [[ones on the left]] will go away into eternal punishment.[κολασιν αιονιον/kolasin aiōnion] but the righteous into eternal life.

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KJV Romans 16:26 [EOB 14:25]
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting [αιωνιου/aiōniou] God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Paul, the same writer in the same writing, the book of Romans, uses αιωνιου/aiōniou, in Rom 16:26 synonymous with αιδιος/aidios in Rom 1:20, below.
Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world, his invisible things are clearly seen. They perceived through created things, even his everlasting [τε αιδιος/te aidios] power and divinity.
Scholars unanimously agree that “aidios” means “eternal/everlasting.”
This shows conclusively that “aionios” means “eternal/everlasting.”
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https://azbyka.ru/otechnik/books/or...tament-(The-Eastern-Greek-Orthodox-Bible).pdf
The Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible EOB—New Testament 96 can be viewed/D/L at the above link. For any doubts/questions about the EOB version please refer to the 200 page preface which documents the extensive Greek scholarship supporting this translation.


 
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The Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible EOB—New Testament 96 can be viewed/D/L at the above link. For any doubts/questions about the EOB version please refer to the 200 page preface which documents the extensive Greek scholarship supporting this translation.

Thank you for this link. I just checked the software I mainly use. It has 78 English translations & this EOB is not one of them. I mainly use a few Greek manuscripts, but always have multiple English translations on the screen to see translators' works. I'll check this EOB periodically to see how they handle translation.
 
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