Jesus Christ Shed His Blood for Judas

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Please quote the verse that says that Jesus said that.
“I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.” (John 10:11)

“But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.” (John 10:26)

compare to; “And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” Matthew 26:27–28 (KJV 1900)

“So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” Hebrews 9:28 (KJV 1900)
 
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OK, everyone is able to repent then, because, as I have already shown from Scripture, Christ did die for everyone. Many verses actually say this.

Oh, and I forgot 2 more verses:
2 Cor 5:14,15
14 For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died.
15And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
Only the born again can repent. The flesh has no righteousness it can turn to.
 
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The 10th chapter mentions "sheep" in different categories:
1. My sheep. v.14 These belong to Jesus. They are believers, Jewish.
2. other sheep of Mine. v.16 These also belong to Jesus. They are believers, Gentile.
3. not My sheep. v.26 These don't belong to Jesus. They are unbelievers.
4. THE sheep. v.11, 12,13,15, These are all the sheep in the sheep pen. Representing humanity.

What Jesus said several times is that He would "die for THE sheep".
v.11 - “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
v.15 - just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep.

In addition to these facts, there are more:
1 Tim 2-
3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
4 who wants all people to be saved
and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people
. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

Heb 2:9 - But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

Titus 2:11 - For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to everyone.

1 John 2:2 - He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

No one has been left out.


To prove that they had the opportunity to receive a free gift.


No, it does not. It did. And the result is that He offers a free gift for everyone. That's what His death paid for. Removing the sin debt and providing eternal life.

No one goes to the lake of fire for their sins, because they have been paid for. They end up their because they never received the free gift of eternal life, which would have qualified them to live with God in eternity. They are unqualified to live with God.

Mankind is responsible and accountable to God for where they spend eternity.

As CS Lewis has said, people will say to God, "Thy will be done", or God will say to people "thy will be done".

Those who believe in Christ for salvation are acknowledging God's wlll, per John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”
Jesus said they did not believe because he did not die for them. Belief = salvation.
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
Please quote the verse that says that Jesus said that.
“I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.” (John 10:11)

“But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.” (John 10:26)

compare to;
No need to compare with any other Scripture. It's clear in John 10, even from the verses you provided. Jesus was clear that He would die for THE sheep, and in context, He notes:
1. My sheep
2. other sheep of Mine
3. not My sheep
4. THE sheep

The 4th category includes all the others. He would die for everyone.

Do you reject the clear words of 2 Cor 5:14,15, Heb 2:9, Titus 2:11, and 1 John 2:2?

“And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” Matthew 26:27–28 (KJV 1900)
The Greek word for "many" means "the masses". It does NOT mean "less than everyone".

“So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” Hebrews 9:28 (KJV 1900)
Just go back to v.9 for the truth. He would "taste death for everyone".

The Bible says so very clearly.

What the Bible doesn't say anywhere is that He would die for ONLY some, or even ONLY many.
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
Please quote the verse that says that Jesus said that.

No need to compare with any other Scripture. It's clear in John 10, even from the verses you provided. Jesus was clear that He would die for THE sheep, and in context, He notes:
1. My sheep
2. other sheep of Mine
3. not My sheep
4. THE sheep

The 4th category includes all the others. He would die for everyone.

Do you reject the clear words of 2 Cor 5:14,15, Heb 2:9, Titus 2:11, and 1 John 2:2?


The Greek word for "many" means "the masses". It does NOT mean "less than everyone".


Just go back to v.9 for the truth. He would "taste death for everyone".

The Bible says so very clearly.

What the Bible doesn't say anywhere is that He would die for ONLY some, or even ONLY many.
But he tells the Pharisees they do not believe because he didn't die for them. They are not his sheep because of this.
 
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He would have paid for the sin of rejecting him had he died for them
Jesus paid the sin debt for EVERYONE, as I have already proven from Scripture, by the verses that SAY that He died for EVERYONE.

Sin isn't the issue in going to the lake of fire. Lack of possession of God's life, that is, eternal life is the singular issue.

Rev 20:15 - Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

The judgment "according to the books of deeds" is to determine 'how bearable' or 'how tolerable' it will be for the residents in the lake of fire.

Jesus clearly spoke about how tolerable/bearable it will be for some vs others.
 
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“I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.” (John 10:11)

“But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.” (John 10:26)

compare to; “And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” Matthew 26:27–28 (KJV 1900)

“So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” Hebrews 9:28 (KJV 1900)

Jesus told the people who wanted to murder Him in John chapter 5, "39 You examine the Scriptures carefully because you suppose that in them you have eternal life. Yet they testify about me. 40 But you are not willing to come to me to have life." See the words, "YOU ARE UNWILLING TO COME TO ME". Do you get it? Jesus here blames the Jews who wanted to murder Him (see verses 17-18), that the were UNWILLING to to accept Him as their personal Saviour, "to have life"!

Simply taking some Scriptures that are in a certain context, and not with other Scriptures, is a misuse of the Word of God. John 3:16 is very clear that Jesus' death was for the whole human race!
 
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Jesus said they did not believe because he did not die for them. Belief = salvation.
No He didn't. Otherwise, you would have provided a verse that supports your claim.

What Jesus DID say was that He would die for THE sheep.

What He never said was that He would die for HIS sheep only. Or just His sheep.
 
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Jesus paid the sin debt for EVERYONE, as I have already proven from Scripture, by the verses that SAY that He died for EVERYONE.

Sin isn't the issue in going to the lake of fire. Lack of possession of God's life, that is, eternal life is the singular issue.

Rev 20:15 - Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

The judgment "according to the books of deeds" is to determine 'how bearable' or 'how tolerable' it will be for the residents in the lake of fire.

Jesus clearly spoke about how tolerable/bearable it will be for some vs others.
Why aren't all saved if he paid for all their sins, including the sin of rejecting him?
 
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But he tells the Pharisees they do not believe because he didn't die for them. They are not his sheep because of this.
Please please please quote whatever verse you think Jesus said WHY He "didn't die" for them, or anyone else.
 
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