Archbishop Viganò Responds to Pope Francis’ Civil Unions Remarks

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DECLARATION

of His Excellency

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò

about the documentary film Francesco



Rome, October 21, 2020 – The Vatican News website[1] has reported the news that today at the Rome Film Festival a documentary film will be screened called Francesco made by director Evgeny Afineevsky.

This documentary – according to what has been reported by Catholic News Agency[2] and America Magazine[3] – makes public several pronouncements of Jorge Mario Bergoglio on the topic of homosexuality. Among the various statements, these two are particularly disconcerting:

“Homosexuals have a right to be a part of the family. They’re children of God and have a right to a family. Nobody should be thrown out, or be made miserable because of it.”

“What we have to create is a civil union law. That way they are legally covered. I stood up for that.”

One does not have to be a theologian or a moral expert to know that such statements are totally heterodox and constitute a very serious cause of scandal for the faithful.

But pay careful attention: these words simply constitute the umpteenth provocation by which the “ultra-progressive” part of the Hierarchy wants to artfully provoke a schism, as it has already tried to do with the Post-Synodal Exhortation Amoris Laetitia, the modification of doctrine on the death penalty, the Pan-Amazon Synod and the filthy Pachamama, and the Abu Dhabi Declaration which has now been reaffirmed and aggravated by the Encyclical Fratelli Tutti.

It appears that Bergoglio is impudently trying to “raise the stakes” in a crescendo of heretical affirmations, in such a way that it will force the healthy part of the Church – which includes bishops, clergy, and faithful – to accuse him of heresy, in order to declare that healthy part of the Church schismatic and “the enemy of the Pope.”

Jorge Mario Bergoglio is trying to force some Cardinals and Bishops to separate themselves from communion with him, obtaining as a result not his own deposition for heresy but rather the expulsion of Catholics who want to remain faithful to the perennial Magisterium of the Church. This trap would have the purpose – in the presumed intentions of Bergoglio and his “magic circle” – of consolidating his own power within a church that would only nominally be “Catholic” but in reality would be heretical and schismatic.

This deception draws on the support of the globalist élite, the mainstream media and the LGBT lobby, to which many clergy, bishops, and cardinals are no strangers. Furthermore, let us not forget that in many nations there are laws in force which criminally punish anyone who considers sodomy reprehensible and sinful or who does not approve of the legitimization of homosexual “matrimony” – even if they do so on the basis of their Creed. A pronouncement by the bishops against Bergoglio on a question like homosexuality could potentially lead civil authority to prosecute them criminally, with the approval of the Vatican.

Bergoglio would thus have on his side not only the “deep church” represented by rebels like Father James Martin, S.J., and those who promote the German “Synodal Path,” but also the “deep state.” It is not surprising that in the documentary there is also an endorsement of the Democratic candidate in the upcoming American presidential election, along with a disconcerting condemnation of the policy of the Trump Administration, which is accused of separating families that want to enter the United States illegally, while the reality is that the President is confronting human trafficking and the trafficking of minors.

Thus, while conservative American bishops are forbidden from intervening in the political debate in support of President Trump, the Vatican allows itself to casually interfere in the elections in favor of his Democratic adversary, in union with the censorship by social and news media of the very serious accusations against the Biden family.

As Catholics, we are called to side with those who defend life, the natural family, and national sovereignty. We thought that we had the Vicar of Christ at our side. We painfully acknowledge that, in this epochal clash, he who ought to be guiding the Barque of Peter has chosen to side with the Enemy, in order to sink it. Recalling the courage of the Holy Pontiffs in defending the integrity of the Faith and promoting the salvation of souls, one can only observe: Quantum mutatus ab illis![4]



+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop

Archbishop Viganò Responds to Pope Francis’ Civil Unions Remarks – Edward Pentin
 

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Scary times...
Indeed. If Joe Biden wins and conscience rights and religious liberty take a big expected hit, this will all be used against plain old ordinary Catholics. When the government comes after us with the 2021 equivalent of 'bake us a cake or else', the pope's words will be used against us.

And as to the 'smoke of Satan' in the Church, that smoldering has become an all out fire.
 
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I'm somewhat confused...
If the Pope has not said this as Ex-Cathedra Doctrine then is it really enforceable or matter?
(Not that I agree with him)

And I thought that since this disagrees with many, many other doctrines of the Church that I am lost as to how he can say such things. I understand that it may be a power struggle within the church itself to oust the power of certain individuals...but wouldn't God's divine providence correct issues over time if it really was a problem?

I'm trying desperately to understand...I'm not Catholic obviously...but have many people I consider friends that are. This whole thing is going to unsettle them.
 
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There is a group of people who I am not supposed to endorse on here so I won't name it but I think almost everyone knows who they are. The group claims that certain kinds of Popes can't be valid and I'm seriously considering if they're right on this one :sigh:
 
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There is a group of people who I am not supposed to endorse on here so I won't name it but I think almost everyone knows who they are. The group claims that certain kinds of Popes can't be valid and I'm seriously considering if they're right on this one :sigh:
I hear you, but there is plenty of room without going into that kind of group-think to just consider that Francis is the valid pope but just a bad one.
 
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I'm somewhat confused...
Today we all are.
If the Pope has not said this as Ex-Cathedra Doctrine then is it really enforceable or matter?
(Not that I agree with him)
The pope cannot change things just because he is pope. He has a job of representing the faith, not making it up. So in reality there is no change because he voiced his wrong opinion.
And I thought that since this disagrees with many, many other doctrines of the Church that I am lost as to how he can say such things. I understand that it may be a power struggle within the church itself to oust the power of certain individuals...but wouldn't God's divine providence correct issues over time if it really was a problem?
There have been some unsettling things. Two years ago the pope promised a report detailing the cardinal McCarrick mess. Still waiting. A year ago we had the Pachamama idolatry at the Vatican, where one faithful Catholic threw the idols into the Tiber River. And today we have the renewal of the Sino-Vatican secret deal that has been so hard on Chinese Catholics. We also have the German Catholic Church deciding they want to do all sorts of un-Christian things. It may be that pope Francis thinks he knows what he's doing. Or maybe he is lost in a fog. Who knows. But he's picked his advisors and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. Something is very wrong at the Vatican.
I'm trying desperately to understand...I'm not Catholic obviously...but have many people I consider friends that are. This whole thing is going to unsettle them.
It's unsettling. We've had two excellent popes and now this. Hard to stomach.
 
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I hear you, but there is plenty of room without going into that kind of group-think to just consider that Francis is the valid pope but just a bad one.
LOL I have to wonder, what is the difference between a bad (yet valid) pope vs an invalid pope?
 
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LOL I have to wonder, what is the difference between a bad (yet valid) pope vs an invalid pope?
A bad pope is a valid pope with the authority that comes with his office. We have a duty to listen to him, and unless he is wrong we need to give an assent to his teaching. When he is wrong we need to correct him. An invalid pope is not to be listened to at all. I wish it were as simple as saying he really isn't the pope. But he is. Which makes it much more complicated.
 
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LOL I have to wonder, what is the difference between a bad (yet valid) pope vs an invalid pope?
In this case, The invalid Pope (the one to come) follows the bad Pope.
 
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LOL I have to wonder, what is the difference between a bad (yet valid) pope vs an invalid pope?

I think that is one of those decisions that may come out / be made clear later in Church history. There have been a number of anti-Popes. Men who claimed to be Pope, in opposition to a genuine and reigning Pope. Some great Saints even backed the wrong man, accidentally. But, again, at the time who was and wasn't a valid Pope was not entirely clear. Francis does seem to be the genuine Pope. Just a deeply, deeply confused, theologically muddled Pope. He genuinely does not seem to understand or realize the importance of the things that he says and does.

I do think that we are living in prophetic times for the Church. Please, do not stop praying for the Pope. No matter how bad things may look or actually seem to be, do not stop praying for him. Prayer does work.
 
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In this case, The invalid Pope (the one to come) follows the bad Pope.
Maybe. Or maybe we get a good one. That would be a real work of the Holy Spirit considering how the deck is stacked right now.
 
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Maybe. Or maybe we get a good one. That would be a real work of the Holy Spirit considering how the deck is stacked right now.

I understand, our hearts cry out for good, Godly leaders. There are a few stouthearted souls around who will be leading small bands of the faithful in the days ahead. But really, the stage is being set, and the way is being prepared for Jesus' Return, and final triumph.

All in God's time, things will happen. Have hope! Jesus wins in the end. :clap::clap::clap::oldthumbsup:
 
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Today we all are.

The pope cannot change things just because he is pope. He has a job of representing the faith, not making it up. So in reality there is no change because he voiced his wrong opinion.

There have been some unsettling things. Two years ago the pope promised a report detailing the cardinal McCarrick mess. Still waiting. A year ago we had the Pachamama idolatry at the Vatican, where one faithful Catholic threw the idols into the Tiber River. And today we have the renewal of the Sino-Vatican secret deal that has been so hard on Chinese Catholics. We also have the German Catholic Church deciding they want to do all sorts of un-Christian things. It may be that pope Francis thinks he knows what he's doing. Or maybe he is lost in a fog. Who knows. But he's picked his advisors and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. Something is very wrong at the Vatican.

It's unsettling. We've had two excellent popes and now this. Hard to stomach.

I've been involved in churches where things weren't going well...shady dealings and unauthorized doctrines being promoted and other things...
And it was super painful and in the end, none of the regular membership really won whatsoever...we lost many good people over this stuff.
We, the independent evangelicals, actually have remedies for some of this stuff...but the cure is often worse than the disease. Everyone runs for cover when religious icons fight. Usually an evangelical church becomes a shell of its former self when this stuff happens. We all find another one and life goes on. That's not an option for y'all.

I'm so so sorry that y'all are having to deal with this stuff. I don't have any answers but you guys do have my prayers.
 
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I'm so so sorry that y'all are having to deal with this stuff. I don't have any answers but you guys do have my prayers.
Thank you.

There are many many faithful Catholics who will not put up with this. I see some of the outrage here, and I share in it, but I think the deeper thing is that this is a call to prayer. And we will pray long and hard. And a call to reparations for the evil that is being done. That is huge.

If we, those of us who know Jesus, whether Catholic or Orthodox or evangelical, can come together in praying for each other, and praying for the peoples of the world, some good will come of it. We Catholics expect the Church to shrink, and yet we also expect it to be purified. How? We don't have the details. I know it starts with remnants locked in prayer. God has been so faithful, and it's our turn to be faithful in return.

A year ago the Pachamama idolatry hit the Vatican. One faithful Austrian Catholic found a way in to the church the idols were kept overnight, carried them off and threw rgem into the Tiber River. We have not agreed to such idolatry even if the folks at the Vatican have. We have been doing reparation for the blasphemy of idolatry. And yet the Vatican has just issued a ten Euro coin that sure looks like Pachamama. These things are related, and so much more. We need to hang together, at least if we believe the final discourse of Jesus recorded in the gospel of John.
 
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