Alleged H. Biden E-mails Circulated in Ukraine as R. Giuliani Dug for Dirt There Last Year - Time

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So if Joe Biden drops out, where do you think we'll end up?


Joe Biden isn't going to drop out, he is going to be the next President. The Democrats in power are going to make sure of this by cheating any way and every way they can. And if that hurts some Democrats feelings, by suggesting that, so what? Didn't Democrats claim Trump cheated in order to win the 2016 election? If Democrats can't take it, maybe they shouldn't be dishing it out.
 
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Joe Biden isn't going to drop out, he is going to be the next President. The Democrats in power are going to make sure of this by cheating any way and every way they can. And if that hurts some Democrats feelings, by suggesting that, so what? Didn't Democrats claim Trump cheated in order to win the 2016 election? If Democrats can't take it, maybe they shouldn't be dishing it out.

The difference being that one is verified truth and the other is a desperate attempt to smear a candidate, no a whole party, nay over half of the population of the country with the same muck conservatives delight in wallowing in.

Trump is going down and will be prosecuted after he leaves office, even if he flees the country which is really, really likely.
 
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(snip) And if that hurts some Democrats feelings, by suggesting that, so what? (snip)
It doesn't hurt my feelings, so no worries. I see the emails as more of a Republican attempt to distract President Trump's base from just how badly they've bungled this administration and it seems to be working, because no one outside of President Trump's base believes this obviously fake story.
tulc(almost feels bad at how desperate President Trumps base must be if they'll clutch at this particular straw...almost)
 
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Joe Biden isn't going to drop out, he is going to be the next President. The Democrats in power are going to make sure of this by cheating any way and every way they can. And if that hurts some Democrats feelings, by suggesting that, so what? Didn't Democrats claim Trump cheated in order to win the 2016 election? If Democrats can't take it, maybe they shouldn't be dishing it out.
After Republican support for Trump, I really could care less what anyone thinks of Democrats and their supporters ...
 
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Joe Biden isn't going to drop out, he is going to be the next President. The Democrats in power are going to make sure of this by cheating any way and every way they can. And if that hurts some Democrats feelings, by suggesting that, so what? Didn't Democrats claim Trump cheated in order to win the 2016 election? If Democrats can't take it, maybe they shouldn't be dishing it out.
Evidence. It's all about the evidence.

Do you have any that the Democrats are cheating "any way and every way they can" to win this years election?
 
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From your article:

The two people said they could not confirm whether any of the material presented to them was the same as that which has been recently published in the U.S.


It may have been the same material, and it may not have. It may even be that Hunter was hacked, and still also had data on his device, if it is his device.

What none of the Biden camp has said so far is that the emails are not legitimate.

We have one on record who was listed as a recipient saying they are. Some of the details match up with known travel.
 
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From your article:

The two people said they could not confirm whether any of the material presented to them was the same as that which has been recently published in the U.S.
True ... but what's related in the article is, certainly, a viable alternative to the narrative that Hunter Biden (whom the right claims has hugely enriched himself from his father's political positions) ... took laptops with highly sensitive content ... to be REPAIRED.

That the laptop repairman, who is legally blind (and so, can't confirm or deny that the laptop was actually dropped off by Hunter Biden) ... was able to FIND incriminating evidence on the laptop.

Also, that the laptop(s) weren't ever picked up.
 
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True ... but what's related in the article is, certainly, a viable alternative to the narrative that Hunter Biden (whom the right claims has hugely enriched himself from his father's political positions) ... took laptops with highly sensitive content ... to be REPAIRED.

That the laptop repairman, who is legally blind (and so, can't confirm or deny that the laptop was actually dropped off by Hunter Biden) ... was able to FIND incriminating evidence on the laptop.

Also, that the laptop(s) weren't ever picked up.

I agree, the laptop is not the real story. The question is whether the emails are legitimate.
 
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The difference being that one is verified truth and the other is a desperate attempt to smear a candidate, no a whole party, nay over half of the population of the country with the same muck conservatives delight in wallowing in.

Trump is going down and will be prosecuted after he leaves office, even if he flees the country which is really, really likely.


The way I look at it, neither Trump nor Biden are worthy of being a US President. But, since one is forced to choose between the two evils, some of us think Trump is the lesser of the two evils, while others think Biden is the lesser of the two evils, or that maybe some don't think Biden even has an evil bone in his body, thus to the latter, it's not a choice between the lesser of two evils at all.
 
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Evidence. It's all about the evidence.

Do you have any that the Democrats are cheating "any way and every way they can" to win this years election?


If they manage to win, in spite of all this incriminating evidence revolving around Hunter's laptop, that's proof enough right there. Because you would think the right thing for Biden to do is to just drop out of the race. But he needs to stay in the race, so that way when he wins, he can make all of this magically go away
altogether.
 
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The way I look at it, neither Trump nor Biden are worthy of being a US President. But, since one is forced to choose between the two evils, some of us think Trump is the lesser of the two evils, while others think Biden is the lesser of the two evils, or that maybe some don't think Biden even has an evil bone in his body, thus to the latter, it's not a choice between the lesser of two evils at all.

I don't disagree with this.
 
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I agree, the laptop is not the real story. The question is whether the emails are legitimate.


The emails appear to be legit, but if anyone disagrees instead, regardless that Lt. Tony Bobulinski - a business associate of Hunter Biden, is claiming they are legit, then that person is not being objective at all, but is obviously biased instead.
 
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The way I look at it, neither Trump nor Biden are worthy of being a US President. But, since one is forced to choose between the two evils, some of us think Trump is the lesser of the two evils, while others think Biden is the lesser of the two evils, or that maybe some don't think Biden even has an evil bone in his body, thus to the latter, it's not a choice between the lesser of two evils at all.

Yeah, can we not do this? This was nonsense last election, and it's nonsense now.

No-one is claiming Biden is perfect, equally, to label them both as 'evil' is crazy.
 
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If they manage to win, in spite of all this incriminating evidence revolving around Hunter's laptop, that's proof enough right there. Because you would think the right thing for Biden to do is to just drop out of the race.
Why would he drop out of the race because of allegations ?

If that was all it took to get a candidate to bow out, ... all we'd hear about would be allegations ...
 
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