Existenial angst

VCR-2000 · Sep 4, 2020

Hi, I don't know I might be obsessed with this because I have posted a lot about this before. I don't know anymore. I feel frustrated over things and I feel the need to vent about them.

I have existential anger/angst driven mostly by the state of modern society (but not really this plane of existence on the whole) and a lot of the recent events going on like the riots and rumors about the NWO, the end of this world-all human history so far, the upcoming election and what is at stake, etc.

I want to just live my life and pursue the goals that I wanted to accomplish. Another thing is that people may address the state of this world by tracing back to when Adam and Eve sinned, but even if that's the valid truth it doesn't take frustration away from the situation. It's like I wish the world as it is now continues on, but it's status quo takes the other direction again and the current order would be turned back on it's head. It would be like the time of history in society from the 19th/20th century until as late as the 90s again.

I know that I constantly ramble, that's kind of part of who I am though.

TriciaR · Sep 11, 2020

VCR-2000 said:
Hi, I don't know I might be obsessed with this because I have posted a lot about this before. I don't know anymore. I feel frustrated over things and I feel the need to vent about them.

I have existential anger/angst driven mostly by the state of modern society (but not really this plane of existence on the whole) and a lot of the recent events going on like the riots and rumors about the NWO, the end of this world-all human history so far, the upcoming election and what is at stake, etc.

I want to just live my life and pursue the goals that I wanted to accomplish. Another thing is that people may address the state of this world by tracing back to when Adam and Eve sinned, but even if that's the valid truth it doesn't take frustration away from the situation. It's like I wish the world as it is now continues on, but it's status quo takes the other direction again and the current order would be turned back on it's head. It would be like the time of history in society from the 19th/20th century until as late as the 90s again.

I know that I constantly ramble, that's kind of part of who I am though.

Hi. I just wanted to reply to this as I saw there were no replies. I'm new to your musings! But I just wanted to acknowledge your post. I get the angst of it all. It's a pretty difficult world out there. Particularly now. It's good to vent though I think! I often feel the need to do that.
I don't know where you are at with the Lord Jesus, but I see this is in the non-Christian section. But for me when the world is raging around as it does, my solid place is in Christ. For me it's like when the storms go on around me, I have to hold onto Jesus. He never said it would be easy. But in Him is peace. I still cry out to Him though, and wonder what's happening and struggle with it all, but for me I need to keep my eyes on Jesus.
I'm going on now! But i just wanted to reply to you. Take care.

VCR-2000 · Sep 13, 2020

It frankly sucks that Satan gets to ruin the world for everyone and create dystopian hell on earth, destroy family, etc. He gets to destroy what is good. I'm concerned about this thing that Jesus apparently says we will no longer have heterosexual individual male/female pairings or children-rearing, if that is true, then in some way to some degree, the damage Satan has already done stays. He gets to destroy America, he gets to destroy and ruin relationships.

It sounds like Heaven is nothing else but this void of sameness and monotony. Doesn't matter what angle you address it from.

TriciaR · Sep 13, 2020

VCR-2000 said:
It frankly sucks that Satan gets to ruin the world for everyone and create dystopian hell on earth, destroy family, etc. He gets to destroy what is good. I'm concerned about this thing that Jesus apparently says we will no longer have heterosexual individual male/female pairings or children-rearing, if that is true, then in some way to some degree, the damage Satan has already done stays. He gets to destroy America, he gets to destroy and ruin relationships.

It sounds like Heaven is nothing else but this void of sameness and monotony. Doesn't matter what angle you address it from.

I don't understand what you mean about

that Jesus apparently says we will no longer have heterosexual individual male/female pairings or children-rearing,

I don't see that anywhere in the Bible??

VCR-2000 · Sep 13, 2020

People often cite the verse in Matthew 22:30. Honestly, that is one of the things i really struggle with.

TriciaR · Sep 13, 2020

VCR-2000 said:
People often cite the verse in Matthew 22:30. Honestly, that is one of the things i really struggle with.

I didn't realise that people took that meaning from that verse.

I'm just putting some of Matthew here just to help me explain a little if that's ok.

The same day Sadducees came to him, who say that there is no resurrection, and they asked him a question, But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. And as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God: ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.” And when the crowd heard it, they were astonished at his teaching.
Matthew 22:23‭, ‬29‭-‬33 ESV

So the issue was about the resurrection of the dead. The Sadducees said there was no resurrection etc. Jesus was explaining about the resurrection of the dead.
The bit about they neither marry or are given in marriage shows that when someone dies, they have eternal life and that state is different to being on earth.
There's some commentary by Benson which says:
Our Lord proceeds to observe further, that they entirely mistook the nature of the life to be enjoyed in a future state: that those who attained it being as the angels of God, incorruptible and immortal, marriage and the procreation of an offspring were no longer necessary to continue the species, or maintain the population of the spiritual world.

I don't know if that fully answers that. But marriage between a man and a woman is the standard of God always. I do hope that helps. Just hope you take care too.

TriciaR · Sep 13, 2020

VCR-2000 said:
People often cite the verse in Matthew 22:30. Honestly, that is one of the things i really struggle with.

Just to clarify, marriage between a man and a woman is the standard of God always here on earth I mean.

VCR-2000 · Sep 14, 2020

So in Heaven or the spiritual kingdom (and this world is getting worse and is going to end very soon), I can't still have that partner I yearned for but was mostly single and never had or got a taste (and may never get to have a chance, considering the environment today) even if I asked God himself? I know because "we will not want it anymore and have something much better", it is like telling a blind person who wants to see that he will be healed and fulfilled by being taken into a completely dark room.

TriciaR · Sep 14, 2020

VCR-2000 said:
So in Heaven or the spiritual kingdom (and this world is getting worse and is going to end very soon), I can't still have that partner I yearned for but was mostly single and never had or got a taste (and may never get to have a chance, considering the environment today) even if I asked God himself? I know because "we will not want it anymore and have something much better", it is like telling a blind person who wants to see that he will be healed and fulfilled by being taken into a completely dark room.

I do understand what you are saying. I really do. I yearned for a partner too. It never happened for me. But it's not that you can't have that. It may be that it happens for you.

We're told not to be anxious but to pray. To talk to God. He also shows us to be content in all circumstances. But it still may be something for you. Talk to God. But I do get it. It's a natural longing.
But none of it is easy. It's a hard world out there. But for me I do look to Jesus as my only hope. In Him is life and peace. It's hard sometimes as I wonder why things happened the way they have, but I then think it may seem like I have nothing at times in terms of all that, but I have everything in Christ. I honestly know that peace that surpasses all understanding.

We're also told it's a narrow path following Jesus as it's not easy. But it is the path of life. A lot of people I guess find it a hard way to follow though unfortunately. Some people won't turn to Christ. Maybe it is too hard for them. I guess it's a decision for people to make. But I understand the craziness of the world right now particularly. But for me I have to remain in Christ.

VCR-2000 · Sep 16, 2020

I understand that in the end of the day, Jesus and Father are ultimately good and care about us all, but it's still frustrating some things are. Another thing I talk about is having to be alive at the prime of my life during the Great Tribulation times. I know some people believe that and some don't, but it's at least an unknown for me. But the crazy events going on recently kind of "validate" it. By extension, I dread both.

renniks · Sep 16, 2020

I wouldn't be totally convinced we are almost to the end of the world yet... This world has seen much worst time before. In fact, the relatively calm last generation we have had here in the US is an exception rather than the rule if you look at history.

As a young person I wasn't anxious for end times either. But don't just assume none of your dreams will become reality. You have to work to make them reality and trust God to get you there.

TriciaR · Sep 17, 2020

VCR-2000 said:
I understand that in the end of the day, Jesus and Father are ultimately good and care about us all, but it's still frustrating some things are. Another thing I talk about is having to be alive at the prime of my life during the Great Tribulation times. I know some people believe that and some don't, but it's at least an unknown for me. But the crazy events going on recently kind of "validate" it. By extension, I dread both.

I just hope you can have faith completely in Jesus.

Unqualified · Sep 22, 2020

It is safe in Jesus as @TriciaR said. But when Jesus came to earth the Jews were supposed to accept Him but He couldn’t convince them. They killed Him and He saved the world anyway.
But nowadays if Christians as a whole would chose Jesus and pray the could defeat Satan and change the world that way. But Jesus will change it anyway. My point being that you can trust Jesus has it covered every way. You don’t need to worry. Jesus has His people in a safe place. As she said there is peace in the midst of the storm.

Robert8102 · Sep 25, 2020

If you are somewhat definable as an agnostic, then it looks like you are not yet fully convinced that the Bible is the Word of God. I used to accept that the Bible is "the word of God," but with a big grain of salt because it appeared science had disproven certain things in the Bible, such as the Genesis account of creation. I eventually came to acknowledge that the claim that the Bible is the literal Word of God is based on overwhelming, compelling evidence, and is true. Part of this evidence turns out to be that all the "science" which refutes the Bible is itself scientifically refutable, including the Big Bang Theory, the theory of evolution and the claimed old ages of the earth and universe. After we have disposed of all man-made ideas about origins, such as evolutionism, we are left with the Genesis account. Other parts of the evidence behind the claim that the Bible is God's Word include it's historical accuracy. Wherever there appears to be a conflict between generally acknowledged history and the Bible, the pattern is that these conflicts repeatedly get resolved in the Bible's favor. But the strongest evidence that the Bible is His Word is the astonishing fulfillment of prophecies in the Bible, especially prophecies of the Messiah in the Old Testament that were fulfilled by Christ. Jesus' life fulfilled literally hundreds of OT prophecies.

If you have even a rudimentary knowledge of the Bible, you know that only one Person in the Bible is claimed to have died for the sins of other people. This Person is Jesus Christ. In the Old Testament writings of Isaiah - I think it's Isaiah 53 or 56 - it says a number of things about the coming Messiah, including that "the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all." Isaiah lived and wrote 700-800 years before Christ!

There are three things that need to happen in your mind before you become intellectually convinced of the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. One, you would have to see that the Bible is the literal Word of God; two, you would have to realize that the main message of the Bible is the Gospel of Christ; three, you would have to know the basic Gospel of Christ. If you are doubting any of these three things, I encourage to study the evidence. Once one has become convinced in their mind of the truth of the Bible and the Gospel, the extra added ingredient necessary is the Father/Holy Spirit draw you to Christ, including "convicting" you of your sinfulness and need of a Savior. I pray for you and you might want to ask as many Christians as you can to pray for you, that the Holy Spirit lead you through the maze that leads to understanding that you need to be born again.

TriciaR · Sep 25, 2020

Robert8102 said:
If you are somewhat definable as an agnostic, then it looks like you are not yet fully convinced that the Bible is the Word of God. I used to accept that the Bible is "the word of God," but with a big grain of salt because it appeared science had disproven certain things in the Bible, such as the Genesis account of creation. I eventually came to acknowledge that the claim that the Bible is the literal Word of God is based on overwhelming, compelling evidence, and is true. Part of this evidence turns out to be that all the "science" which refutes the Bible is itself scientifically refutable, including the Big Bang Theory, the theory of evolution and the claimed old ages of the earth and universe. After we have disposed of all man-made ideas about origins, such as evolutionism, we are left with the Genesis account. Other parts of the evidence behind the claim that the Bible is God's Word include it's historical accuracy. Wherever there appears to be a conflict between generally acknowledged history and the Bible, the pattern is that these conflicts repeatedly get resolved in the Bible's favor. But the strongest evidence that the Bible is His Word is the astonishing fulfillment of prophecies in the Bible, especially prophecies of the Messiah in the Old Testament that were fulfilled by Christ. Jesus' life fulfilled literally hundreds of OT prophecies.

If you have even a rudimentary knowledge of the Bible, you know that only one Person in the Bible is claimed to have died for the sins of other people. This Person is Jesus Christ. In the Old Testament writings of Isaiah - I think it's Isaiah 53 or 56 - it says a number of things about the coming Messiah, including that "the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all." Isaiah lived and wrote 700-800 years before Christ!

There are three things that need to happen in your mind before you become intellectually convinced of the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. One, you would have to see that the Bible is the literal Word of God; two, you would have to realize that the main message of the Bible is the Gospel of Christ; three, you would have to know the basic Gospel of Christ. If you are doubting any of these three things, I encourage to study the evidence. Once one has become convinced in their mind of the truth of the Bible and the Gospel, the extra added ingredient necessary is the Father/Holy Spirit draw you to Christ, including "convicting" you of your sinfulness and need of a Savior. I pray for you and you might want to ask as many Christians as you can to pray for you, that the Holy Spirit lead you through the maze that leads to understanding that you need to be born again.

I just wanted to let you know that I thought you explained this really well. Really clear. Hope you take good care.

VCR-2000 · Oct 21, 2020

I wanted to say something too. If there is not going to be no marital relationships or intimate relationships of that kind between two souls and bodies in the next life, and right here the life right now is the only time I can experience it, and the bad circumstances and inequities of modern society around me makes it harder to find fulfillment in that area, it pushes me inwards. I am trapped between either committing sin or remaining single indefinitely for the rest of my life until death. That is actually cruel and unusual.

Unqualified · Oct 21, 2020

I didn’t get married until I was 53. Take your time don’t sin and don’t make a mistake. It takes some of us longer to mature.
@VCR-2000

VCR-2000 · Nov 4, 2020

People also say "God is in control" of everything, but even if that is true, I'm still mad because I could still be continued to be slapped in the face whenever I pray for something and I don't get the answer I'd please (which means that God just wants to be like a dictator and doesn't care about what we think is pleasing) or that Satan continues to ruin things, and I'm still supposed to show reverence to him?

How many times must a person slap you in the face to realize or question that maybe he wasn't as good a friend or person as you were made to think?

Tolworth John · Nov 4, 2020

VCR-2000 said:
People also say "God is in control" of everything, but even if that is true, I'm still mad because I could still be continued to be slapped in the face whenever I pray for something and I don't get the answer I'd please (which means that God just wants to be like a dictator and doesn't care about what we think is pleasing) or that Satan continues to ruin things, and I'm still supposed to show reverence to him?

How many times must a person slap you in the face to realize or question that maybe he wasn't as good a friend or person as you were made to think?

I'm not trying to make fun of to be nasty but I do have a question.

You have described your belief as " agnostic " that is you are without knowledge of the existence of God yet you blame God and pray for things, if you are not an active supporter of God on what bases do you expect to get things from an unknown supernatural being?

VCR-2000 · Nov 4, 2020

Tolworth John said:
I'm not trying to make fun of to be nasty but I do have a question.

You have described your belief as " agnostic " that is you are without knowledge of the existence of God yet you blame God and pray for things, if you are not an active supporter of God on what bases do you expect to get things from an unknown supernatural being?

I am not truly an agnostic, but I don't know a suitable label of it.

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