Yes . . . but . . .
Jesus came in order to save us from our sins. Jesus suffered and died, instead of us, so we may be changed by God into persons who love, instead.
So, our selfish personalities, then, need to die, but then we become alive in love, like Christ, and love like Jesus has loved us.
IYeah, I don't need any proselytizing thanks.
II think there are times when I should tell the truth. So, if I don't, I am lying by omission. And my actions can be a lie.
But it can be not good to keep on calling attention to wrong things. Our attention needs to be with God and sharing with one another the way which is good.
So, I do not constantly call attention to my sin problems. And I pray about who I should trust with personal things about myself. Honesty, I have learned, includes being honest about what I should trust people to know about me.
Now . . . I am suspicious about how you have set up your standards. You say lying to your husband would be so very serious. Yet, you totally excuse yourself if you are sneaky but have not actually told a lie about it. My opinion is if you overly condemn the lying, this can help keep you weak in guilt and self condemnation, versus how you could become stronger so you are doing better. And if you totally excuse the sneakiness as not being a lie, this can help you to also stay weak so you keep on failing. Do you see what I am offering? You could be too hard on one thing, while being too soft on another. Instead become stronger so you trust him, so neither is as likely to happen, and we are love satisfied so we are not seeking comfort pleasure.
II think there are times when I should tell the truth. So, if I don't, I am lying by omission. And my actions can be a lie.
But it can be not good to keep on calling attention to wrong things. Our attention needs to be with God and sharing with one another the way which is good.
So, I do not constantly call attention to my sin problems. And I pray about who I should trust with personal things about myself. Honesty, I have learned, includes being honest about what I should trust people to know about me.
Now . . . I am suspicious about how you have set up your standards. You say lying to your husband would be so very serious. Yet, you totally excuse yourself if you are sneaky but have not actually told a lie about it. My opinion is if you overly condemn the lying, this can help keep you weak in guilt and self condemnation, versus how you could become stronger so you are doing better. And if you totally excuse the sneakiness as not being a lie, this can help you to also stay weak so you keep on failing. Do you see what I am offering? You could be too hard on one thing, while being too soft on another. Instead become stronger so you trust him, so neither is as likely to happen, and we are love satisfied so we are not seeking comfort pleasure.
II think there are times when I should tell the truth. So, if I don't, I am lying by omission. And my actions can be a lie.
But it can be not good to keep on calling attention to wrong things. Our attention needs to be with God and sharing with one another the way which is good.
So, I do not constantly call attention to my sin problems. And I pray about who I should trust with personal things about myself. Honesty, I have learned, includes being honest about what I should trust people to know about me.
Now . . . I am suspicious about how you have set up your standards. You say lying to your husband would be so very serious. Yet, you totally excuse yourself if you are sneaky but have not actually told a lie about it. My opinion is if you overly condemn the lying, this can help keep you weak in guilt and self condemnation, versus how you could become stronger so you are doing better. And if you totally excuse the sneakiness as not being a lie, this can help you to also stay weak so you keep on failing. Do you see what I am offering? You could be too hard on one thing, while being too soft on another. Instead become stronger so you trust him, so neither is as likely to happen, and we are love satisfied so we are not seeking comfort pleasure.
Jesus came in order to save us from our sins. Jesus suffered and died, instead of us, so we may be changed by God into persons who love, instead.
So, our selfish personalities, then, need to die, but then we become alive in love, like Christ, and love like Jesus has loved us.
If a guy did this, yes.Wow. That seems pretty toxic to me. If I told you that my husband taught me that I deserved to be punished by him, but he was good enough to love me instead, you'd be crying out that he's emotionally manipulating me. And you'd be right.
If a guy did this, yes.
But Jesus didn't only say I deserve punishment, but Christ took our punishment upon Himself, on the cross.
Also, Jesus has the authority to judge. A husband does not.
Also, my selfish stuff is what is toxic. What God does about it isn't.
Also, God does not only tell us He loves us in spite of how undeserving we are, but He changes us so we can love in sharing with Him.
I would say there are lies which are very obviously destructive . . . for example spreading a false report which ruins a person's reputation, maybe also a just cause of a person who has done nothing wrong and was helping people in great need.
It is said that stress at the time a pig is slaughtered can reduce the quality of the pig's meat. But if pig farmers treat pigs well so the pigs don't get stressed by knowing it is their time to be slaughtered, this is by actions lying to the piggies!!!!
There are other ways of lying by means of deceptive actions. In war, an invaded country's military one might bluff that they will do something so the enemy is fooled. And hunters can act in a way to trick their prey into feeling safe.
So, there is lying which is considered necessary for a society to function.
If a wife asks her husband, "Does my backside look big in this?" then a lie might come in very handy don't you think? it could save a lot of grief!
Your husband is a human. And the Bible says one human can not die for another's sins. So, yes it would be toxic for a human to take another human's punishment.If my husband told me I deserved to be killed because of the horrible things I had done, but he had volunteered to be punished in my place because he loves me and so I should love him back or he would make sure I was punished for not loving him, wouldn't that be toxic?
Yes, yes it would. No matter what entity said that to you.If my husband told me I deserved to be killed because of the horrible things I had done, but he had volunteered to be punished in my place because he loves me and so I should love him back or he would make sure I was punished for not loving him, wouldn't that be toxic?
Your husband is a human. And the Bible says one human can not die for another's sins. So, yes it would be toxic for a human to take another human's punishment.
Part of why your husband being punished instead of you is, that you would likely never change from your evil doing. He would be enabling you.
But Jesus died for us and He is the Son of God. Only He could make satisfaction for us because He is so better than how humans are; humans can not suffer punishment in a way which is enough to satisfy God; humans merely cry and deny and guilt-trip themselves without really changing in a good way. So, God knows it is practical that Jesus would take our punishment, since only He could do it right. Plus, only God can really correct us.
Therefore,, if we trust in Jesus and how He died for us, we are required to repent and be corrected in the real way that God corrects His children.
What is toxic, really, is our selfishness. Plus, many people keep on in their selfishness, so they are continuing to suffer in their punishment of living in selfish stuff. They are not only taking someone else's punishment, but they are suffering together in the various punishing things which come with selfish living together.
But do they deserve to suffer so much because of staying in their selfish living. I would say no. But sin is not fair. God's way of punishment with real correction is so better.
Jesus dying on the cross for us is not exactly the same behavior as how humans handle people worthy of punishment!!!So the behaviour is toxic if it comes from a human, but if the exact same behaviour comes from a deity, it's okay?
I hope you understand how extremely troubling I find that reasoning.
Jesus dying on the cross for us is not exactly the same behavior as how humans handle people worthy of punishment!!!
If a wife asks her husband, "Does my backside look big in this?" then a lie might come in very handy don't you think? it could save a lot of grief!
You were clear.I believe you have missed my point.
"You are a horrible person and you deserve death. But because I love you, I am going to take that punishment on myself, and all I ask is that you love me back and live your life according to what I say is best for you."
That is toxic if my husband says it, but apparently good if God says it. I am pointing out the double standard.
God is not a human being. He is the one and only true God, perfect in all attributes. He is omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent, loving, just, and wrathful in perfect proportion. We summarize this by saying the Triune God is holy. God is not of the world; he is the creator of the cosmos and everything in it. By definition his Word is true and correct in every respect because, being perfect in all attributes, he can speak no other way.So the behaviour is toxic if it comes from a human, but if the exact same behaviour comes from a deity, it's okay?
I hope you understand how extremely troubling I find that reasoning.