Do these gifts include Spiritual Vision?

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Many have the gift of discernment and can see with their "spiritual eyes" and I am wondering is this the same thing that occult believers call their " third eye"? I am assuming they are different since they come from different sources. I have been praying for " spiritual eyes" but I do not want the wrong thing opened up that I cannot close! Do you know anyone with their spiritual eyes opened?
 
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Many have the gift of discernment and can see with their "spiritual eyes" and I am wondering is this the same thing that occult believers call their " third eye"? I am assuming they are different since they come from different sources. I have been praying for " spiritual eyes" but I do not want the wrong thing opened up that I cannot close!
Occult "discernment" is demonic and a direct injection of thoughts and suggestions into the susceptible mind. That's why unbiblical meditation, making the mind blank or opening up to "out there" is dangerous. Christians receive knowledge from God in the spirit, not the mind. The function of the mind is to understand what is received in the spirit. The occult attempts to imitate the spiritual in order to deceive.
 
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Occult "discernment" is demonic and a direct injection of thoughts and suggestions into the susceptible mind. That's why unbiblical meditation, making the mind blank or opening up to "out there" is dangerous. Christians receive knowledge from God in the spirit, not the mind. The function of the mind is to understand what is received in the spirit. The occult attempts to imitate the spiritual in order to deceive.
Thank you!! That is what I was wanting to know! So yes that makes sense! Opening the eyes of the spirit and not the mind is TOTALLY different. I am not an occultist, but I was searching youtube for opening "spiritual eyes" and saw some videos about chakras and the pineal gland and that felt dark and wrong to me, and no I did not attempt it because there was no praying involved and they did not quote Jesus or even mention Him!
 
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Why would God give you a gift that's not from Him and potentially dangerous? This thread doesn't even make sense.
What I am asking is are these two abilities one in the same? Say A gets spiritual eyes from God and B gets the third eye from wherever, do they have the same abilities in essence?
 
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You're right different sources. We only want God and gifts He gives; otherwise, there is deception and other demonic influences. God will give you the correct spiritual eyes but you'll "see" both - Godly and ungodly.

Discernment is really good but discerning of spirits is much better and different. The manifestation of the spiritual gifts are by the Holy Spitit. So the information would need to be from Him.
 
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You're right different sources. We only want God and gifts He gives; otherwise, there is deception. God will give you the correct spiritual eyes but you'll "see" both

Discernment is really good but discerning of spirits is much better and different. The manifestation of the spiritual gifts are by the Holy Spitit. So the information would need to be from Him.
I think one would be able to tell the difference or " see" it anyways.
 
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Many have the gift of discernment and can see with their "spiritual eyes" and I am wondering is this the same thing that occult believers call their "third eye"? I am assuming they are different since they come from different sources. I have been praying for " spiritual eyes" but I do not want the wrong thing opened up that I cannot close! Do you know anyone with their spiritual eyes opened?
You've answered a portion of your own question. That the occult use "the third eye, whereby to attain 'divinity' through their own means".. that is entirely demonic and therefore deceptive.

The Biblical gift of discernment is a ministry gift (1 Cor.12) which not every minister would have., it's according to the will of the Holy Spirit. Therefore no one can pray to have it.
The minister would use it when casting out demons in conjunction with healing someone. Jesus ministered that way many times.

What is available to non ministry believers is the general discernment to gain understanding of scripture and to recognize error. As Jesus said "My sheep hear My voice and follow Me. But a stranger's voice they do not follow." And "you will know a tree by his fruits."

There are many scriptures you could use for gaining insight of God's Word, here is one, Col.1:9-10.
 
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As others explained, the two aren't one in the same. :)

I have the gift of discerning of spirits. I perceive them through my senses. As you recall, we have 5 and an additional one some reference.

Touch
Taste
Vision
Hearing
Smell
Intuition

I detect spiritual presences through 4 of them. While I don't see physical manifestations, I know where they are in the room. I feel them.

However, I'm not 100% certain I'm unable to see them. The two instances when something attempted to reveal itself to me visually the Lord prevented it. Maybe it will open later on. I'm unsure.

Yours in His Service,

~bella
 
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You've answered a portion of your own question. That the occult use "the third eye, whereby to attain 'divinity' through their own means".. that is entirely demonic and therefore deceptive.

The Biblical gift of discernment is a ministry gift (1 Cor.12) which not every minister would have., it's according to the will of the Holy Spirit. Therefore no one can pray to have it.
The minister would use it when casting out demons in conjunction with healing someone. Jesus ministered that way many times.

What is available to non ministry believers is the general discernment to gain understanding of scripture and to recognize error. As Jesus said "My sheep hear My voice and follow Me. But a stranger's voice they do not follow." And "you will know a tree by his fruits."

There are many scriptures you could use for gaining insight of God's Word, here is one, Col.1:9-10.
I know that for every one of God's incredible designs, satan has produced an imposter. So all the stuff that is out there regarding chakras and auras is demonic? I had a feeling it wasn't the same. I haven't gone that route, I was just wondering.
 
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I know that for every one of God's incredible designs, satan has produced an imposter. So all the stuff that is out there regarding chakras and auras is demonic? I had a feeling it wasn't the same. I haven't gone that route, I was just wondering.

Blessings in Christ Jesus! Yes, it is playing with fire. All the enemy needs is permission, and this is one way to give him that. All of this kind of stuff, brings glory to self. The Gifts of The Holy Spirit bring Glory to The Lord.
 
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You've answered a portion of your own question. That the occult use "the third eye, whereby to attain 'divinity' through their own means".. that is entirely demonic and therefore deceptive.

The Biblical gift of discernment is a ministry gift (1 Cor.12) which not every minister would have., it's according to the will of the Holy Spirit. Therefore no one can pray to have it.
The minister would use it when casting out demons in conjunction with healing someone. Jesus ministered that way many times.

What is available to non ministry believers is the general discernment to gain understanding of scripture and to recognize error. As Jesus said "My sheep hear My voice and follow Me. But a stranger's voice they do not follow." And "you will know a tree by his fruits."

There are many scriptures you could use for gaining insight of God's Word, here is one, Col.1:9-10.

Just to clarify, the gifts of the Spirit are available to whomever they are bestowed, regardless of whether or not they are "ministers."
 
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Blessings in Christ Jesus! Yes, it is playing with fire. All the enemy needs is permission, and this is one way to give him that. All of this kind of stuff, brings glory to self. The Gifts of The Holy Spirit bring Glory to The Lord.
Everything we do should bring glory to the Lord. We have strayed so far from this. I am not even sure if I know how to do this but I want to. Nothing we have or do is possible without the Lord and He has given us so much to be thankful for. For all the pain and negative there is still so much beauty and things to treasure. We cannot lose sight of this.
 
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Just to clarify, the gifts of the Spirit are available to whomever they are bestowed, regardless of whether or not they are "ministers."
Nevertheless, I chose to use a minister as an example as in my observation they are ministering to the congregation of believers.
 
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If you are seeking the Lord himself for spiritual gifts, you can be assured any gift he gives will be righteous and not occult.
Lk11v9“So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? 12Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

It's a promise, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask!
 
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