How many times does Jacob Rothschild give God the credit for creating the modern State of Israel?
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How many times does covenant and new covenant theology give God the credit for Israel born in a single day in May 14, 1948 fulfilling Isaiah 14:7-8 ?How many times does Jacob Rothschild give God the credit for creating the modern State of Israel?
How many times does covenant and new covenant theology give God the credit for Israel born in a single day in May 14, 1948 fulfilling Isaiah 14:7-8 ?
That sounds like your answer to the question...How much credit does the Treasury Department give you if you start printing money on your home computer, and printer?
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That sounds like your answer to the question...
How many times does covenant and new covenant theology give God the credit for Israel born in a single day in May 14, 1948 fulfilling Isaiah 14:7-8 ?
... is "none".
denial of reality and flawed theology. refusal to recognize there are end times prophecies dealing with Israel. And separately there are end times prophecies dealing with the church.
DANIEL'S BOOK - INTERPRETATION - CHAPTER 8 - KJV - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DESCRIPTION OF THE DANIEL'S VISION - VERSES 01 to 14
The main focus are:
- The daily sacrifice was(will be) take away;
- The little horn - the Beast like a lamb-Revelation 13:v.11
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DANIEL 8 - SECOND VISION OF DANIEL~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1 In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar(553BC) a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.(First vision about four great kingdoms from the sea-the vision of the chapter 7:v.3-8. By the way, Daniel's vision from two years ago, around 551BC).
2 And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
NOTE: In this second vision Daniel was captive in Babylon, that was the FIRST of the FOUR kingdoms revealed in the chapter 7. In this chapter 8, we see that was revealed to Daniel the NAMES of the second and of the third kingdoms, i.e. Media and Persia. (Ciro and Dario) and Grecia(336BC-323BC-Dan.2:v.39, right?
3 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns(two kings-Media and Persia, as is written in the verse 20): and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last-(so, the last was Persia).
4 I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.
5 And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west (Grecia) on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. (see verse 8)
6 And he came to the ram that had two horns(Media and Persia-verse 20), which I had seen standing before the river(verse 3), and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
7 And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns(Media and Persia): and there was no power in the ram(Media and Persia) to stand before him(before the goat), but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand. (Media and Persia were totally defeated by Grecia)
8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn (the notable horn-see verse 5) was broken; and for it came up FOUR notable ones toward the FOUR WINDS of HEAVEN (heaven is not SKY).(see DAN.7:v.2-3 about FOUR winds, combined with Daniel 2:v.36-40, and mainly Revelation 7:v.1-4)
NOTE: It is important to discern that the three first kingdoms are described from verse 1to 8, but from verse 9 onwards or henceforth, comes the fourth kingdom that begins before Christ, and continues even millenniums after the time of Christ. The main focus are:
The church is not a Nation.
The only people on earth are the descendants of Jacob.
I am not a dispensationalist as you know.You are promoting a Bible doctrine which is less than 200 years old, as revealed below by Pastor John Otis.
I am not a dispensationalist as you know.
Still a nation in heaven, not on earth. Are there different nations in Paradise or one?Peter disagrees.
1 Peter 2
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
That would be all of the people on earth.
Example of the mathematical confirmation of ancestral genetic ubiquity
Abraham lineage
DNA Tests Could Fulfill God’s Promise to Abraham by Revealing Millions of Jews. But How Jewish is Jewish Enough?
Israel in all of Us? Research finds 'Jewish genes' in unusual places
Jewish-Roots Arabs in Israel
Tracing the lost tribes to Jewish communities in Africa
Nigeria's Igbo Jews: 'Lost tribe' of Israel? - CNN
http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/...-africa-has-jewish-roots-genetic-tests-reveal
https://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/...her-claims-proof-of-tribe-of-Ephraim-in-India
https://www.jta.org/2013/05/23/life...bush-bani-israel-tribe-claims-jewish-heritage
And when some accuses someone else of being a dispensationalist after been told over and over that they do not hold to the man-made dispensational system to understanding the bible - that is against the forum rules. Cease and desist.If someone make charts like a Dispensationalist, and talks like a Dispensationalist, and promotes the Two Peoples of God doctrine of modern Dispensational Theology...
Still a nation in heaven, not on earth. Are there different nations in Paradise or one?
The nation in Paradise is comprised of every beIiever from the OT. So still no two peoples on earth as is the point of my post. Besides the church was born in Paradise, not on earth. Pentacost was just a large living symbolism of what happened in Paradise. The one at the ascension on Resurrection Sunday was larger than Pentecost. I know many quibble over that fact. The Cross was the birth pang, that gave birth to the spiritual church. There is no physical church. This life is just "preschool".
You all and your cherry picking symbolism. How about those 1000 years on earth after the 70th week? Seems you all are still contradicting your own theology.Peter's letter was addressed to physical Christians on earth, in the present tense.
They have been the NT spiritual nation on earth ever since Pentecost.
And when some accuses someone else of being a dispensationalist after been told over and over that they do not hold to the man-made dispensational system to understanding the bible - that is against the forum rules. Cease and desist.
And also take the squabble between covenant and new covenant theology vs dispensationalism to your own thread...preferably in another forum designed for systems of theology discussion.
Why is that a criteria for anything?We are all waiting on you to show us any Bible scholar on the planet who agrees with your interpretation of Daniel 9:27.
The difference the words "new covenant" is found in Jeremiah 31, Hebrews 8.And then you claim the New Covenant is not found in Daniel 9, because the resurrection is not mentioned, even though the resurrection is not found in most New Covenant passages.
The resurrection is not found in Jeremiah 31:31-34, or Hebrews 8:6-13, or Hebrews 10:16-18.
You all and your cherry picking symbolism. How about those 1000 years on earth after the 70th week? Seems you all are still contradicting your own theology.
Why is that a criteria for anything?