E-Mails confirm Hunter Biden used his father's influence to get cash from foreign sources.

Yarddog

Senior Contributor
Supporter
Jun 25, 2008
15,265
3,542
Louisville, Ky
✟812,249.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Essentially Trump stumbled onto to this scandal
Trump stumbled onto it? Joe Biden bragged about it. How hard was it to find? It wasn't a scandal either. The US and the EU were working on getting him replaced before Biden's visit. This has been debunked.
and once the democrats realized it they accused Trump of doing what Joe seemed to be doing,
Democrats didn't realize anything until a whistle blower alerted the State Dept. Inspector General of what Trump was doing.
which is throwing his political weight around on the premise that if they want US help, they will cooperate.
Yep, only the difference was that Biden was trying to help the Ukraine fight corruption and Trump was trying to help himself.
But that is how democrats roll, they always go on offense, never defense.
Where were you at throughout the Obama administration? Republicans were attacking him on a regular basis. Countless Congressional Investigations were launched against him or Hillary Clinton and all have come back clearing them all of wrong doing.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Jamsie
Upvote 0

Jamsie

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Aug 2, 2017
2,211
1,279
73
Vermont
✟325,212.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single

Essentially Trump stumbled onto to this scandal and once the democrats realized it they accused Trump of doing what Joe seemed to be doing, which is throwing his political weight around on the premise that if they want US help, they will cooperate.

But that is how democrats roll, they always go on offense, never defense.

No, trump only "stumbled" in attempting through guiliani to structure a myth...debunked time and time again. True, biden may brag but he was lead on administration policy, which was also very much in line with other western countries, the IMF, and Anti-corruption activists in Ukraine. That he was acting independently is utter nonsense!

As was noted even with the military aid to Ukraine under trump a security clearance based on corruption was required and received...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Yarddog
Upvote 0

Jamsie

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Aug 2, 2017
2,211
1,279
73
Vermont
✟325,212.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Apparently Ratcliffe just verified that he knew about the laptop and that the emails are Hunter's...but that the investigation wasn't international but domestic that the FBI is investigating.

That is the question...and sorry I have little confidence in ratcliffe. I will await further information because I simply do not deem trump extreme loyalists credible. ( I always think of huckabee-sanders and others who had to admit to lying to defend trump)
 
  • Winner
Reactions: Yarddog
Upvote 0

jgarden

Senior Veteran
Jan 1, 2004
10,695
3,181
✟106,405.00
Faith
Methodist
E-Mails confirm Hunter Biden used his father's influence to get cash from foreign sources

This President and his supporters would have us believe that lightning can strike twice in 2 consecutive presidential campaigns, both involving incriminating personal emails being made public just weeks before the Election and in each case favoring Trump!

Given that this President has averaged over 23 lies a day, accounting for a grand total of over 20,000 falsehoods, only Trump's cadre of true believers would have confidence that this is anything but an orchestrated event whereby once again the Russians are attempting to ride to the rescue of their man in the White House!
 
Upvote 0

JohnDB

Regular Member
May 16, 2007
4,256
1,289
nashville
✟46,421.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
That is the question...and sorry I have little confidence in ratcliffe. I will await further information because I simply do not deem trump extreme loyalists credible. ( I always think of huckabee-sanders and others who had to admit to lying to defend trump)
Do you have anything to show that he is solely a political creature and loyal to Trump only?

He was whining in that article about politicizing non political roles in Government.
 
Upvote 0

Jamsie

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Aug 2, 2017
2,211
1,279
73
Vermont
✟325,212.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Upvote 0

JohnDB

Regular Member
May 16, 2007
4,256
1,289
nashville
✟46,421.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Trump’s New Director of National Intelligence Doesn’t Understand His Job

And just so you no the above link is "high" quality and basically Least bias. If you check on ratcliffe you will find multiple sites/sources outlining his inexperience and trump loyalty!

Not really a centrist viewpoint magazine. It makes very little effort to do so either.

Sorry...I don't buy it or the reasons the article states as being valid. There are always both sides to an argument and I could see both sides with every "proof" the article produced.

Then as I perused the headlines of all the articles many had a negative viewpoint on Trump or something else he did or didn't do.
There were a few articles that didn't focus on american politics but still had something slanted against the current administration stated within the article.
 
Upvote 0

Jamsie

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Aug 2, 2017
2,211
1,279
73
Vermont
✟325,212.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Not really a centrist viewpoint magazine. It makes very little effort to do so either.

Sorry...I don't buy it or the reasons the article states as being valid. There are always both sides to an argument and I could see both sides with every "proof" the article produced.

Then as I perused the headlines of all the articles many had a negative viewpoint on Trump or something else he did or didn't do.
There were a few articles that didn't focus on american politics but still had something slanted against the current administration stated within the article.

The problem in addressing articles and such is the belief that unless the source is pro-trump it must be left leaning or not credible. In fact on foreignpolicy.com - "A factual search reveals a clean fact check record. Overall, we rate Foreign Policy Least Biased due to balanced reporting with a very slight lean right and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record."

This is where we are at present, we are in an either-or malaise. We are led by bias not reason, evidence, facts, and considered patterns of rhetoric and behavior... sad! Our assessment of any source is based on conforming to our individual bias...however, contrary to one's bias foreignpolicy.com is considered objective and of high quality

Consider that across myriad sites, right, center, and left, the consensus is that ratcliffe is not qualified though the most important qualification being an absolute trump loyalist. Here is another site...right leaning:

"Ratcliffe seems to appeal to Trump for the same reason most of the sycophants around him do: Loyalty first and foremost to No. 1. But the DNI is not supposed to walk through the door of the Oval Office attempting to please the president—he is supposed to tell the president whatever he needs to hear, consequences be damned."

Ratcliffe Isn't Qualified to Be DNI | The American Conservative

No doubt any source, and there are so many, that is critical of ratcliffe is not reliable ... and that is where we are as a country!
 
Upvote 0

parousia70

Livin' in yesterday's tomorrow
Supporter
Feb 24, 2002
15,533
4,826
57
Oregon
✟794,018.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
As I suspect a majority of the electorate feels, I don't care if there are videos of Hunter and Joe Biden having sex with an entire Ukrainian cheerleading squad, sitting atop a pile of Heroin the size of the Astrodome while wearing hats made from freshly slaughtered Kittens as they divvy up the Burisma Money.... The: "You should be upset about a politicians family getting entangled in illegal foreign affairs!" Ship has long since sailed...

The Trump train has effectively numbed the electorate to any such accusations After their official “there’s going to be foreign interference, get over it” stance They boldly took. I took their advice, as I suspect most of the electorate did as well.. We're over it. Nobody Cares.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Mountainmanbob

Goat Whisperer
Supporter
Sep 6, 2016
15,961
10,817
73
92040
✟1,096,353.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
FBI in possession of Hunter Biden's purported laptop, sources say

Further, Fox News has learned that the FBI and Justice Department officials concur with an assessment from Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe that the laptop is not part of a Russian disinformation campaign targeting Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JohnDB
Upvote 0

JohnDB

Regular Member
May 16, 2007
4,256
1,289
nashville
✟46,421.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married

Yeah...seen it this morning.

Just as a point of discussion.

Even here in Nashville TN the Japanese has an embassy. The lobbyist use it for a staging ground for the ton of electronics firms that sell equipment for the music and movie industry that surrounds Nashville.

And it isn't illegal to be a lobbyist for foreign companies.

But you must first be registered, declared, and licensed as such.

Otherwise you can be charged with espionage, treason, or something else ugly like that.

So many companies that are simply wanting to influence politicians are registered and licensed. Panasonic, Sony, and all the big boys have their lobbyist registered.

And that is the starting point of Hunter Biden's issues.
 
Upvote 0

parousia70

Livin' in yesterday's tomorrow
Supporter
Feb 24, 2002
15,533
4,826
57
Oregon
✟794,018.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Yawn... again, Nobody cares. The laptop could contain videos of Hunter and Joe Doing heroin together, having sex with multiple prostitutes, grinding up puppies in a woodchipper while showering in Chinese money.... and STILL, the American public at large won't care.
We've all been desensitized from caring about anything like this by the last 4 years.
It ain't like it used to be.
People just don't care about topics that don't matter to them any more... none of this pays the rent, puts food on the table, rehires you back to your job that laid you off, or pays your electric, gas, daycare and healthcare bills, nor gets your kids back in school or ends the pandemic... and it if doesn't help with any of that, nobody cares.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums