FreeGrace2 said:
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And that mans everyone. What other group is there?
That leaves those who were NEVER MEANT to "be forgiven" This is PART of the gospel buddy:
You keep repeating your mantras, but you NEVER have proven them.
Even though I've shown you several verses that refute your mantra.
Titus 2:11 and 1 Tim 2:3-6
Mar 4:11 And he said unto them,
Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; LEST at any time they should
be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
Ah, so THIS is your "proof"??[/QUOTE]
This is a quote from Isa 6:9,10.
Let's see how Luke quotes those 2 verses in Acts 28-
26 “ ‘Go to this people and say, “You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.”
27 For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and
they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.’
I emphasized the key words to help you see the point. Isaiah was referring to people who had closed their eyes and ears, so they couldn't hear or see the truth.
That doesn't prove or even suggest that they were "never meant" to hear/see/believe.
What it shows is that those who reject God and don't want to hear would be given truth in parables.
Or, consider these verses:
2 Thess 2-
10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing.
They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
To refuse to "love the truth" is a choice that people make. So God sends them powerful delusions. Notice the order here.
They refuse to love/believe the truth.
God sends them a powerful delusion.
You seem to think it's the other way around. Hence, the erroneous "never meant to believe" theory.
btw, when are you going to identify ANY biblical scholar who accepts your "5 kingdoms" theory? You is all alone.