They are atheistic in that they do not recognize the existence of any personal god. Some fascists' regimes like Nazi Germany recognized an impersonal pantheistic god but generally they do not. And they certainly do not recognize any moral code from a god, their moral code comes from humans.
We've been over this before. The fact that a person or a government does not believe in God tells you nothing at all about their moral code. They may be good, evil, or anywhere in between, just as a theist may.
Confucianism combined with their extremely homogeneous population has helped them to restrain their behavior. However, because of that they persecute religious people who dont go along their government philosophy and culture, such as serious Christians and Muslims. But their nation is a human right hell hole. Very little freedom at all. Plus using humans like they are material commodities. Plus their government has no moral standards at all.
It's obvious you know nothing of China other than what you've heard on right-wing radio. Why not take a tip from someone who actually lives here?
Yes, China has problems. Yes, some of those are human rights problems. Yes, its governments hands are far from clean. But this does not, by any stretch of the imagination, make it a hell hole.
No, because all humans are created in the image of the Christian God, when they make up their own religions they have some good qualities because of this inherent image.
Oh. Another unsubstantiated claim. You make things up an awful lot, do you know that?
No, I said depending on where the atheist was raised they can be evil and generally atheist leaders are evil. But not the ordinary atheist citizen. But over time since there is no moral anchor in God then an atheistic society goes down a slippery slope toward tyranny.
Nonsense. One quick search proves that wrong:
7 World Leaders Prove That America Can Have an Atheist President Too
Hardly. Europe has started banning public speech criticizing homosexuality and Islam among other things. So they are plainly losing free speech.
This is just ridiculous oversimplification and misunderstanding.
By humanist I mean where their politics and morals come from, other humans. Communists get their ideas from Marx. Fascists get theirs from their leaders. This is as opposed to theists whose politics and morals come from God or gods.
Do you? Well, stop it, please. Humanism has a very specific meaning:
Definition of humanist | Dictionary.com
"
a person having a strong interest in or concern for human welfare, values, and dignity."
Please use the actual definition, rather than making them up to suit yourself.
India and Japan were influenced by Christianity and Christian principles that is why they are not. I still stand by China being a high tech hellhole with little or no freedom or basic human rights.
Well, come and live here and you'll see you're wrong.
Materially maybe but not in the area of human rights. Even blacks though segregated had thousands of their own businesses and made quite good money. They also had religious freedom and free speech neither of which China has today. They also could have as many children as they wanted while in China up until recently could only have one child.
"Made quite good money," eh? How lucky for them.
By the way, ever hear of the American eugenics program?
Look. I'm not saying that America is a hellhole. Of course, it isn't. In many ways, America is a model of liberalism and democratic ideals, or at least the best this world has to offer. Having said that, it would be silly to ignore the huge mistakes America has made, its history of genocide, racism, class discrimination, warmongering and other evils. So if you're holding up America as a perfect society and China as a hellhole, you're quite simply wrong.
Given that Communists lie by definition we have no idea what the infection and death rates are in China.
Who told you Communists lie by definition? Of course they don't. And while the government of China may not be the most trustworthy source ever, I'd say it's a veritable fountain of truth compared to the current incumbent of the White House.
As far as the coronavirus goes, the Chinese government has been at least reasonably competent. Measures were taken to stop the spread of the virus, and they were effective. Again: take it from someone who lives here.
He has done none of those things since becoming president.
First of all, is that an admission that Donald Trump was all of those things before becoming the President? In which case, that's very nearly as bad.
However, since becoming President:
Con man? Check - see the Woodward tapes for confessions in his own voice as to how he misled the American people.
Grifter? Check. See the many times he has been scamming the American taxpayers - nepotism, emoluments, etc. etc.
Thief? Probably comes under the two above.
Sexual assaulter? Possibly not, during his time in office, but I wouldn't be surprised.
And let's add manslaughter to that, through negligence and wilful neglect. He knew the coronavirus was a terrible disease, and he just didn't care. All he focused on was the short-term damage if people thought there was a disease on the loose, and so he lied, and lied, and lied, and people died.
God being the essence good itself is not circular at all. As an atheist good and evil do not even exist in any real sense.
It's a perfect example of circular logic. I think it's terribly funny how you keep saying I can't tell the difference between good and evil, when the truth is, you're far more vulnerable to the charge yourself.
Plenty of whites were killed by war and mass slaughters committed by Indians. What innocents? Native Americans were far from innocents. Not only did they slaughter each other for thousands of years before the colonists arrived they also slaughtered many colonists. One isolated case of a rogue military officer giving small pox infected blankets to Indians is terrible but is practicially negligible compared the unintentional spreading of diseases.
Ah. So two wrongs make a right, do they? Is this Christian morality? "They did it as well, so it wasn't bad" is it? You're doing a great job at painting America as being a morally superior nation.
While it has had its periods of bad behavior, overall it is an exemplar of morality. Americans give more to charity than any other nation and more people have been given freedom and rescued from oppression and death by America than any other nation.
I'm glad to hear you admit that America has had periods of bad behaviour. But if you think you can just brush centuries (up to and including the present day) of systemic racism under the carpet, you're quite mistaken.
I doubt it, though we probably would have gotten in late and therefore the war would have been much tougher and longer.
Again: the US entered the war because they were attacked. Hardly the most high-minded of moral principles.
Wars against Communism are wars to free the oppressed by definition.
Of course they're not. It's quite possible to enter a war against a morally reprehensible power for reasons other than helping their subject peoples.
Thousands of Muslim terrorists have been killed never to kill again. And evil dictators killed. Bush failed to understand that generally Muslim nations don't have the principles that can sustain a democracy. So he should have put benevolent dictators in their place.
I think I've indulged your simplistic political ideas for long enough at this point.
Absurd, the so called cages had large screen TVs and video games and the children could play soccer outside pretty much anytime they wanted to. And if they didnt put them in these cages they would have to have let them go to wander the nation and be exposed to pedophiles and sex traffickers or otherwise they would have to have been in prison with their parents.
Yuck. How horrible.
The horrifying conditions facing kids in border detention, explained
"At any given time, for the past several weeks, more than 2,000 children have been held in the custody of US Border Patrol without their parents. Legally, they’re not supposed to be held by border agents for more than 72 hours before being sent to the Department of Health and Human Services, which is responsible for finding their nearest relative in the US to house them while their immigration cases are adjudicated.
In practice, they’re being held for days, sometimes weeks, in facilities without enough food or toothbrushes — going days without showering, overcrowded and undercared for."
Yes, they have been one of the most transparent Administrations in recent American history. Much more so than the Obama administration. The stock market has been at very high levels even during the pandemic.
Oh dear...
The Trump Administration has not been one of the most transparent administrations in recent history. It's been one of the most porous. In other words, its composed almost solely of lying liars, but this is counterbalanced by the incredible amount of leaking that goes on.
Experts predicted initially that America would suffer 2 million deaths, but Trump by closing down travel from China and Europe saved thousands of lives possibly millions. Only having around 200,000 deaths after 7 months is actually quite remarkable for a nation as large and diverse as we are and that values freedom so much.
Here's a tip - don't believe everything Donald Trump says. Hate to break it to you, but it's not always true.
Donald Trump closing down travel from China and Europe was largely ineffective. And no, 200, 000 + deaths is not remarkable, it's catastrophic. Take a look at how other nations around the world are doing. Plenty of them have implemented sensible precautions - masks, tracing, restricting travel - and as a result the coronavirus has been contained. In America, it is rampant.
You have politicians, including the President himself, who have spent months telling the American people to go out, go to school, go to parties and shopping and not wear masks. 
