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What evidence from Scripture do you have that explicitly proves they did.
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Ten Reasons I'm a Sabbatarian [moved thread]
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Hi prodromos,
As I stated elsewhere on this thread, there are only 8 references to the first day of the week in the New Testament. Six of these are historical references to the resurrection. That leaves only two texts to discover the possibility of the apostles somehow honoring the first day of the week.
God bless!
But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
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Scripture doesn't say anything one way or the other, but every church established by the Apostles is liturgical and every one of those churches worships primarily on Sunday. From India and Armenia to Africa and England, all are consistent on Sunday and liturgy.
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All the Law and all the prophets; the Great Commandment is the heart of God's moral law. The Christian is not obligated to observe sabbaths, new moons, food laws, make sacrifices, we are not forbidden from wearing mixed fabrics, nor are we made ritually unclean by eating certain things, touching certain things. No, for the Christian is the Great Command: Love God and love our neighbor. To this Christ commands we love our enemy, as our enemy is included in our neighbor; Christ commands not that we take an eye for an eye, but that we turn the other cheek repaying no one evil for evil; if our cloak is demanded, we give our shirt as well; if we are demanded to walk a mile, we walk two miles, we are to give generously expecting nothing in return. This is the Law and Command of Jesus Christ. Not sabbaths, not new moons, etc.
The Ten Commandments are beneficial, not in their gross sense such as though the sabbath day applies to us; but that the heart of the commandment remains, the spirit over the letter; for we know from the command to rest that the rest from our labors is a good thing, and thus we should take opportunity to rest from our labors. But the true spirit of the law, that which it points to, is our True Sabbath, which is Jesus Christ our Lord who says to us, "Come to Me all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest". And this promise to us is not for a single day of the week, rather as the author of Hebrews says this rest is "today". To all who hear this precious and saving word of the Gospel their rest is today. Today is the day of our salvation, today is the day of our rest. Today, for we now live in the everlasting day of Christ's resurrection, the day that shall never end. The New Day has dawned, the 8th Day, the day of new creation, the day of our salvation, the day of our rest in Jesus who has made peace between us and God.
Do not return back to shadows and types, but come into the freedom of Jesus Christ the Son of God who gives rest from our labors, and the sufferings of this age, who has granted to us new life, peace with God, forgivness of our sins. As the Apostle St. Peter says, "And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts," Behold the new day of Jesus Christ, the Sun of Justice rising with healing in His rays, the Light of the world, who calls us to likewise be salt and light.
Let us therefore repent and believe the good news.
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Yet all churches established by the Apostles worship liturgically and all worship primarily on Sunday. It doesn't matter whether the church is in India where the Apostle Thomas preached, Greece where Paul preached or England or Ethiopia etc. this is what history demonstrates.
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When statements like venerated titles appear confusion sets in.
One is our venerated Holy Father not seen .We are to call no human on earth venerable master. . infallible teacher.
Sabbath means rest .It is not a time senititive word in any way shape or form.
From my experience the moment a person changes the meaning of a word that has no time element into one that does have a time element things go astray and men begin worshiping the the shadow of the continue rest we do have when and if we do hear his word and do not harden our heats the 24 -7 sabbath called "today" (under the sun) .
They are those who do mix the faith of Christ not seen with the temporal things seen. They hear the gospel of rest while those who do not mix the faith of Christ that does work in those yoked with Christ. they do not hear the gospel We who do mix faith do receive the rest making our labor easier.
Hebrews 4 King James Version (KJV) Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
If we do not harden our hearts as the Spirt works in us, with us. . . we have entered the rest. And not the shadow the ceremonial law. It is God who does make our hearts soft .Not shadows.
By looking at the two rendering of the ten commandments .Its easy to see he has set one aside as a ceremonial law or shadow of the true rest(Hebrew 4)
He does not use parables reasoning tools when it comes to moral laws .Its not a accident using the two rendering from different time periods as one working together as one.
In one parable he uses the 7th day to signify the rest while in another the reasoning becomes the moving out of his promise to Abraham 400 years later .
The beginning the first day of the Jewish calendar 40 years in the wilderness as delivered from the house of bondage..(no rest) He gave them rest on the weekend . Saturday and Sunday. 1st and last.
The Deuteronomy reasoning parable . (Tied to the moving out of His people.)
Deuteronomy 5: 14-15 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
The Exodus 20 as a reasoning parable the 7th day .(Tied to the creation of this world.)
Exous 20: 10-11 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Again no reasoning parables as re used in respect to moral laws.
One is our venerated Holy Father not seen .We are to call no human on earth venerable master. . infallible teacher.
Sabbath means rest .It is not a time senititive word in any way shape or form.
From my experience the moment a person changes the meaning of a word that has no time element into one that does have a time element things go astray and men begin worshiping the the shadow of the continue rest we do have when and if we do hear his word and do not harden our heats the 24 -7 sabbath called "today" (under the sun) .
They are those who do mix the faith of Christ not seen with the temporal things seen. They hear the gospel of rest while those who do not mix the faith of Christ that does work in those yoked with Christ. they do not hear the gospel We who do mix faith do receive the rest making our labor easier.
Hebrews 4 King James Version (KJV) Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
If we do not harden our hearts as the Spirt works in us, with us. . . we have entered the rest. And not the shadow the ceremonial law. It is God who does make our hearts soft .Not shadows.
By looking at the two rendering of the ten commandments .Its easy to see he has set one aside as a ceremonial law or shadow of the true rest(Hebrew 4)
He does not use parables reasoning tools when it comes to moral laws .Its not a accident using the two rendering from different time periods as one working together as one.
In one parable he uses the 7th day to signify the rest while in another the reasoning becomes the moving out of his promise to Abraham 400 years later .
The beginning the first day of the Jewish calendar 40 years in the wilderness as delivered from the house of bondage..(no rest) He gave them rest on the weekend . Saturday and Sunday. 1st and last.
The Deuteronomy reasoning parable . (Tied to the moving out of His people.)
Deuteronomy 5: 14-15 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the Lord thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the Lord thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
The Exodus 20 as a reasoning parable the 7th day .(Tied to the creation of this world.)
Exous 20: 10-11 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Again no reasoning parables as re used in respect to moral laws.
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Hi garee,
I'm not sure why you believe that taking note of the fact that there is a title attached to the seventh day--whereas the other six days are numerically designated in their relation to the day which is titled--is a problem? It seems pretty apparent that by not stripping away the title that the day maintains it's God-given intended purpose.
The Scriptures know of no such thing as the "Jewish Sabbath." That is post canonical designation used by people who wish to marginalize the day Jesus says He made for human beings.
I have no idea what you're tryna say here.
Sabbath certainly means rest, but God attached the word to a specific day--the seventh day. God calls this day, "My holy day."
This is a strange contention in light of the fact that the Sabbath commandment in Exodus 20:8-11 and the creation account given in Genesis 2:1-3 both specify that the seventh day is the day of rest. This was not just any seventh day. For forty years in the wilderness the miracle of the manna marked which day was God's special day of rest.
So tell me, who is it that is attempting to take away what is clearly conveyed in Scripture? Should not readers be concerned with people who attempt to strip away what God's word clearly reveals?
There is no such thing as a "24-7 sabbath called 'today.'"
Let's take a look at Hebrews 4 (NIV):
1 Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. 2 For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed. 3 Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,
6 Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7 God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:
This "Sabbath-rest" is explicitly tied to "the seventh day" and resting from our works, "just as God did from His." This seventh day is not generic, but specific as it is tied to "the creation of the world." The "Sabbath-rest" that remains "for the people of God" is the "seventh day" Sabbath.“So I declared on oath in my anger,
‘They shall never enter my rest.’”
And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world.4 For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.” 5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”‘They shall never enter my rest.’”
6 Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7 God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:
“Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. 11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.do not harden your hearts.”
This reasoning makes the biblical account of the manna nonsensical. Do you believe that the manna in the wilderness fell for six days of the week and then there was none on the seventh day Sabbath? Or, is it your contention that manna fell for five days of the week and then there was none on the Seventh and the first day? That's what you seem to be saying above.
You might want to explain what you mean by using the word "parable" in an Exodus/Deuteronomy context.
I pray this helps.
But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
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Icysparks offered.
This "Sabbath-rest" is explicitly tied to "the seventh day" and resting from our works, "just as God did from His." This seventh day is not generic, but specific as it is tied to "the creation of the world." The "Sabbath-rest" that remains "for the people of God" is the "seventh day" Sabbath.
Hi Icyspark Thanks . Its something I keep on the back burner. Not a salvation issue but more of how can we hear what the Spirit says to the denominations, churches. Today I see sabbaths plural as two days set aside in so much that the two become one weekend rest..
The rest in our works not from them is attached to anytime we hear his voice and not harden our hearts .Called today. It is God who works in a believer to both will and do His good pleasure .He makes our hearts soft...Yoked with him making our continue work or daily burden lighter.
The ceremonial shadow of that continue rest we receive as believers is not the same rest but is a shadow of it. It is not something that we can judge one another in regard to and therefore not a moral law.
By looking at the two rendering of the ten commandment .The same ceremonial Sabbath is given by two different reasons by what I call parables. Which is using the things seen the temporal of this world to give us the unseen eternal timeless understanding.(2 Corinthians 4:18)
I believe it is the prescription given needed to rightly divide parables the understand hid from natural unconverted mankind. In that way parables teach us how to walk by faith the eternal not seen. And could be referred to as the hidden manna.(Revelation 2)
(Three days and three nights and not three days and one night.)
In one rendering of the ten commandments the rest is in regard to the 7th day and the other the moving out of His people the first day .The beginning the new calendar on the first day of the week .The same day when he said let there be light in regard to children of light or sons of God the believers . The ceremonial rest is set aside both days the first and the last. The last will be first or timeless in the new heavens and earth. Seven speaks of perfect or complete.. It would seem the weekend rest, both days. .
Exodus 12:16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
That work was allowed on the 7th day The work of preparing on the previous day the 7th is not the kind of work that is not permitted. . but a work of God working to both will and do his good pleasure. It is not attributed to us .
The first day of the week it can be eaten as the true fast (Isaiah 58). A day set aside when a person can do the work of sharing the gospel .
On that day the seventh day of the week, the day the loving commandment to cook or prepare on the other day of rest . One person tried to do what he should have the previous rest day get a fire going to cook the manna..
Numbers 15:32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
He ignored the law and gathered stick on the day it was to be eaten the first day the same day the lord brought them out and not the other sabbath day the last..
Exodus12: 17 And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.
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To love God (which is His greatest commandment) is shown to Him when we obey His commandments.
1 John 5 1-3 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
God gives us the Holy Spirit to help keep His commandments not change them.
John 14:15-18
15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
Before the crucifixion Jesus said John 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments."
God says He is unchanging
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
Therefore His commandments written by the finger of God on stone cannot be changed.
He even gives us this warning for changing anything in the Bible:
A Warning
Revelations 22:18,19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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God does not change his commandments but he does define them . The fourth is a shadow of the eternal rest used in ceremonies as sign or show to the unbelieving world . Its why he uses two different reasons in the two rendering (Exodus and Deuteronomy) One in respect to the last day the other the moving out of the house of bondage (no rest) His promise to Abraham .The first day of the new calendar.
Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Parables or figures used as reasoning laws are not used with moral laws. The shadows a have a different use. . preach the good news. .
We still keep them by guarding them with all our new heart soul and mind . But as carnal laws they can never make those perfect or complete . When Jesus came and the veil was rent. . . our source of eternal rest was revealed .
Hebrew 9:9-10 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
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My friend, this is not the Commandments of God, these are the ceremonial laws, feasts, Sabbaths (plural, not the Sabbath)
Here is a good explanation of it.
Doesn't Colossians 2:14 wipe out the weekly Sabbath? | Sabbath Truth
Let’s first take a look at the apostle Paul's words in Colossians 2:14–17: “Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. … So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.”
When some read about the sabbath days that were shadows and that passed away at the cross, they think that Paul was referring to the weekly Sabbath, the fourth of the Ten Commandments. Is this accurate? It’s important to get this right, because our interpretation of the apostle’s actual meaning can lead us into deeper truth or into deeper error.
Two Sabbaths
First, there is nothing in the Ten Commandment law about food, drink, festivals, new moons, or sabbath days (plural). All these were actually separate laws that God gave for the physical and spiritual health of His Old Testament people; these were called ceremonial laws.
Second, Paul wrote plainly that he was speaking of “sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come,” and not of the weekly Sabbath, which is a memorial of something that happened in the past, at the creation. The contrast between a shadow and a memorial is quite clear. Indeed, the fourth commandment does not tell us to keep the seventh day as a type of something to come. It says: “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. ... For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it” (Exodus 20:8, 11).
Moreover, to show that he had something other than the weekly Sabbath in mind, Paul distinctly mentioned “sabbaths,” plural,” which are a shadow of things to come.” (The word “sabbath” in the Greek can be singular or plural according to Strong’s and Greek lexicons.)
Festivals and Shadows
The King James uses the word “holyday,” and some will contend that it refers to the weekly Sabbath, while the expression “sabbath days” refers to yearly sabbaths. The American Standard Version uses “feast day” instead of “holyday,” and this likely a clearer translation. The word translated “holyday” is from the Greek heorte, and in John 5:1, this same word is used to designate one of the yearly festivals of the Jews: “After this there was a feast [heorte] of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.” This is one of the holy days that Paul spoke of as having been nailed to the cross.
The “shadows” Paul mentions pointed to Jesus as a Savior from sin and were observed with that in mind. But the weekly Sabbath was made for man before sin entered into the world, before man would need atonement. The shadows pointing forward to His death as an atonement for sin certainly were not instituted until after sin. Therefore, since the weekly Sabbath was instituted before sin, just as was the marriage institution, it was not a shadow of Christ’s death as a Savior from sin; and His death did not end the Sabbath day any more than it brought marriage to an end. Both the Sabbath and marriage came to us in a perfect world.
Paul’s language shows he was referencing the shadowy ceremonies that pointed forward to and ended at the cross. Notice again, carefully, his words in Colossians 2:14: “Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.” Paul mentions that these laws were “against us” and “contrary” to us. Would it be contrary to Christians to refrain from idolatry, using God’s name in vain, dishonoring parents, murder, theft, adultery, lying, and coveting—the sins rebuked by the Ten Commandments? Thus, the apostle must have been talking of another law—a law that enjoined food offerings, drink offerings, the observance of festivals, new moons, and yearly sabbaths.
Why Are These Laws Contrary to Us?
Why would the observance of these ceremonies after the death of Christ be contrary to the Christian faith? The yearly sabbath of the Passover involved killing a lamb that represented Jesus, the Lamb of God. The apostle Paul taught directly, “Indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us" (1 Corinthians 5:7). Thus, to keep offering a sacrificial lamb after His death would be to imply that Jesus had not accomplished atonement. Such an observance would be contrary to the teachings of Christianity.
Many other shadowy requirements of the ceremonial law pointed to the death of Jesus on the cross, as well. All these festivals, food and drink offerings, and sabbaths that were nailed to the cross, Paul declared to be “a shadow of things to come.” Then he adds, "But the substance is of Christ." That is, the substance that cast these shadows was Christ’s body on the cross.
Think of it this way—late in the afternoon when a tall tree casts its shadow eastward, one can begin at the farthest end of the shadow and follow it until he or she gets to the tree that casts the shadow, and there the shadow ceases to be. Likewise, we can go back to the time when “through one man [Adam] sin entered the world, and death through sin,” and there a merciful God promised to send a Redeemer (Genesis 3:15), a Substitute, to die in man’s place. To keep man continually reminded of this fact, and to supply him with a means of expressing his faith in the coming sacrifice, God instituted these ceremonies. All of these were included in the law that was not written on tables of stone.
Follow these shadowy ceremonies all the way from Eden to the time of Moses, and then through the wilderness journey and on for hundreds of years after the settlement in Canaan, and at last to Calvary—and there they cease. So it would be "against us" and "contrary" to our faith to observe these ceremonies after Jesus' death. Not so with the other law. It is just as necessary to refrain from idolatry, using God’s name in vain, dishonoring the Sabbath, murder, adultery, and theft after the cross as before. Indeed, it was the violation of these principles that caused the death of Christ. Could they have been set aside or changed to accommodate the carnal mind, Jesus need not have died.
Now with these truths before us, let us again read Colossians 2:14–17 and see how plainly Paul revealed that he did not mean that the weekly seventh-day Sabbath had been nailed to the cross: "Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. … So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ."
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The Sabbath is of the Decalogue. That which was of Stone is now in the heart, mind and mouth through Christ and His Spirit. This is prophesied in the New Covenant. The Sabbaths which are mentioned in Colossians is not the Sabbath of the Decalogue. But that which is of the handwriting to the ordinances. Not the ordinances themselves but the handwriting to them. Please follow along
We are complete in Him. Circumcised, putting off the body of the sins of the flesh. No longer dead in our sins. But Buried with Him in Baptism, wherein also we are risen with Him through Faith through operation of God. Quickened together with Him having forgiven us all trespasses. Thereby blotting out the handwriting TO THE ordinances. Not the ordinances themselves but the handwriting to them. The judgments and sacrifices owed for when we sinned. Because They are not needed anymore, for Jesus paid the price, taking our judgement and was our sacrifice. That which was against us and contrary to us. That which Did us no good. Took them out of the Way nailing them to the Cross. Spoiling their place and power. Triumphing over them, living without sin and making His life available to us through His life, death, and resurrection. Therefore let no man judge you. Because those handwritings TO THE ordinances, not the ordinances themselves but the handwriting to them. Those of judgment and sacrifice for when we sinned and the holy days, new moons and sabbath days which prefigured Christ are blotted out. Took out of the way nailing to the cross.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of the (to the) ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities (places, positions placed above us) and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore (because of that) judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
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So says the Catholic Church, those who persecuted God's children for hundreds of years. Their heresy preserved through documents "they thought" worthy of preservation. But I guess this is not a bad thing entirely.
Actually History tells us by 100 ADish they were keeping the Sabbath and in honor of the resurrection they kept Sunday also.
Ignatius of Antioch a bishop of Antioch wrote:
"Let us therefore no longer keep the Sabbath after the Jewish manner, and rejoice in days of idleness …. let every friend of Christ keep the Lord’s Day as a festival."
IGNATIUS, EPISTLE TO THE MAGNESIANS
No longer keep means up to that point they were keeping it. So your information is not true. And incidentally there is nothing in the Scriptures that says we are to worship on the 1st day of the week in honor of Christ's resurrection. GOD DID HOWEVER give us Communion in honoring of HIS resurrection and the Gift of the Gospel. So let us do it often in remembrance of Him. Incidentally please take note. Ignatius did not suggest that we no longer keep the Sabbath but that we no longer keep it after the Jewish manner. That we rejoice in the day of idleness. As if there was a state of contrite solemness with out rejoicing done by them on the Sabbath. Also it would be worthy to notice that Sunday is not mentioned as a day of worship but to be as a festival. Not as replacement but in addition.
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Hi my friend may you and yours have happy and peaceful Sabbath.
May I ask why you use the NIV.
The following WHOLE verses have been removed in the NIV (in the text or footnotes)…over 40 VERSES and COUNTING!!!
- Matthew 17:21 — COMPLETELY removed .
- “Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.”
- Matthew 18:11 — COMPLETELY removed.
- “For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.”
- Matthew 21:44 — removed in the footnotes
- Matthew 23:14 — COMPLETELY removed.
- “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.”
- Mark 7:16 — COMPLETELY removed.
- Matthew 12:47 — removed in the footnotes
- “If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.”
- Mark 9:44 — COMPLETELY removed.
- “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.”
- Mark 9:46 — COMPLETELY removed .
- “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.”
- Mark 11:26 — COMPLETELY removed.
- “But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.”
- Mark 15:28 — COMPLETELY removed .
- “And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.”
- Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses) — There is a line separating the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text; and right under the line it says: The two most reliable early manuscripts do not have Mark 16:9-20] (NIV, 1978 ed.)
- Luke 17:36 — COMPLETELY removed.
- “Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.”
- Luke 22:44 — removed in the footnotes
- Luke 22:43 — removed in the footnotes
- Luke 23:17 — COMPLETELY removed.
- “(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)”
- John 5:4 — COMPLETELY removed .
- “For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.”
- John 7:53-8:11 — removed in the footnotes
- Acts 8:37 — COMPLETELY removed. It’s deletion makes one think that people can be baptized and saved without believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Sounds Catholic.
- “And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”
- Acts 15:34 — COMPLETELY removed .
- “Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still.”
- Acts 24:7 — COMPLETELY removed.
- “But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,”
- Acts 28:29 — COMPLETELY removed.
- “And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.”
- Romans 16:24 — COMPLETELY removed.
- “The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.”
- I John 5:7 — Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. In the NIV it says,”For there are three that testify:”
Do you know why they are missing?
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Matt 11 says "come unto Me and will give you rest" - but He does not say "I am rest" or "I am your rest".
28 “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
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Jesus never said "scripture is abolished ... from now on just take what I say as the new scripture" as if Christ was not the one speaking in the OT or the Holy Spirit inspired text of scripture is not Christ speaking. In Hebrews 8:6-12 it is "Christ" speaking at Sinai.
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Which would include the fulfillment of "Do not take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7
and "Honor your Father and Mother" Eph 6:1-2 which Paul says all all still binding upon all mankind as the unit of Law where "the first commandment with a promise" is still the 5th commandment.
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