What Christians think about Trump?

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...should Republicans be successful in repealing Roe v Wade...Are Americans prepared to flood the prison population with young women whose crime against society was their refusal to proceed with a full term pregnancy
- to comply with the demands of a conservative minority of Americans that will absolve themselves of all future responsibilities once that child is born!!
Have you heard any of the various conservative members of Congress or thinktanks, etc. urging or predicting such a response?

Me neither.
 
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Have you heard any of the various conservative members of Congress or thinktanks, etc. urging or predicting such a response?

Me neither.
But what would your answer to that question?
 
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He may be glorified by you, but here's the question you need to ask. Is this leading people to Jesus? Let's replace the government with Islam for a second. Say you're a non-believer and your starving and about to lose your home. The local Mosque comes in, feeds you, and pays off your mortgage. Do you really think that person is thanking Jesus, or do you think they'd be more inclined to lean on Islam? So, of course he deserves glory when he feeds the hungry, but if your only concern is the physical and financial well-being of the people being fed, I personally feel like you only care about your own spiritual well-being and no one else.

It is fascinating the sorts of mental gymnastics someone will go through in order to try and ignore the simple word of God.

Christ says that the hungry should be fed, so the hungry should be fed. He does not say, "Feed the hungry, but only if they convert to Christianity" He does not say "Feed the hungry, but only if it is by a Christian". He simply says that it is God's will that the hungry be fed, the thirsty be given drink, the naked be clothed, the sick be comforted, and the stranger be welcomed.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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It is fascinating the sorts of mental gymnastics someone will go through in order to try and ignore the simple word of God.

Christ says that the hungry should be fed, so the hungry should be fed. He does not say, "Feed the hungry, but only if they convert to Christianity" He does not say "Feed the hungry, but only if it is by a Christian". He simply says that it is God's will that the hungry be fed, the thirsty be given drink, the naked be clothed, the sick be comforted, and the stranger be welcomed.

-CryptoLutheran
He's speaking to the Church when he's saying that. He's didn't say "Go find someone else to feed the hungry." No one is saying that ONLY Christians should try to feed the hungry. I'm saying stop trying to pass the responsibility Jesus gave you to the government.
 
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Your logic is flawed. You would refuse someone food because a Muslim is giving them food? You would refuse someone food because the government is giving them food?

As a Christian, would you give your money to a Muslim so they could feed the hungry, or would you rather do that yourself?
 
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He's speaking to the Church when he's saying that. He's didn't say "Go find someone else to feed the hungry." No one is saying that ONLY Christians should try to feed the hungry. I'm saying stop trying to pass the responsibility Jesus gave you to the government.
My church runs a food bank that serves the local community. Some who get food from us also get government benefits from the WIC program. Those with children in school receive school breakfasts and lunches either free or at a reduced cost. It isn't a matter of passing responsibility from Jesus to the government. It is a matter of both church and state working to make certain that the hungry are fed.
 
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It seems like many folks are all for the Christian imprint on government when it comes to things like abortion and homosexuality but not when it comes to something like feeding the poor, health care, or compassionate treatment for children at the border. What is that selective Christianity or Theocracy?
 
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It seems like many folks are all for the Christian imprint on government when it comes to things like abortion and homosexuality but not when it comes to something like feeding the poor, health care, or compassionate treatment for children at the border. What is that selective Christianity or Theocracy?

Would you want to put your name on something that teaches doctrine in direct opposition to what you teach? If you want to pass the responsibilities of the Church to the government, at least make sure they're leading people to Jesus and no away.
 
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Would you want to put your name on something that teaches doctrine in direct opposition to what you teach? If you want to pass the responsibilities of the Church to the government, at least make sure they're leading people to Jesus and no away.
It isn’t the responsibility of our government to lead people to Jesus. That is up to the church.
 
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It isn’t the responsibility of our government to lead people to Jesus. That is up to the church.

Agreed. Let me restate that. At least make sure there's some semblance of Christian values in the group your attaching Christ's name to before you do it.
 
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I saw a meme yesterday that hit me between the eyes. It said, "When someone tells me he is a Christian, I think, "Classic Jesus? Or Republican Jesus?"

I am classic Jesus all the way.

Before his entrance into politics, Al Franken made a political cartoon called, "Supply Side Jesus." Sadly, this is the Jesus I see many contemporary Christians worshipping.

 
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Agreed. Let me restate that. At least make sure there's some semblance of Christian values in the group your attaching Christ's name to before you do it.

So if a Muslim or an atheist feeds the hungry, we as Christians shouldn't be happy that our neighbor is being fed?

That seems like the opposite of Christianity.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I saw a meme yesterday that hit me between the eyes. It said, "When someone tells me he is a Christian, I think, "Classic Jesus? Or Republican Jesus?"

I am classic Jesus all the way.

Before his entrance into politics, Al Franken made a political cartoon called, "Supply Side Jesus." Sadly, this is the Jesus I see many contemporary Christians worshipping.


Careful, last time I posted this video I got in trouble for it.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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As a Christian, would you give your money to a Muslim so they could feed the hungry, or would you rather do that yourself?

If the Muslim had the resources to feed more than me, I would give it to him or her to do so.
 
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So if a Muslim or an atheist feeds the hungry, we as Christians shouldn't be happy that our neighbor is being fed?

That seems like the opposite of Christianity.

-CryptoLutheran

You should be asking why yourself or another Christian isn't doing it instead.
 
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If the Muslim had the resources to feed more than me, I would give it to him or her to do so.

There's 2.4 billion Christians in the world. Resources shouldn't be a problem.
 
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There's 2.4 billion Christians in the world. Resources shouldn't be a problem.

I am writer. A friend of mine is a state representative. I make more than my friend, but he has more connections. He could make my money go further than I could. He could leverage his influence and get more value for the dollar. I could take the money and buy someone a hamburger, but he could take it and get it to an organization that feeds thousands. I do not have those connections. He does. Therefore, it makes sense to give the money to him.
 
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You should be asking why yourself or another Christian isn't doing it instead.

Just because a Muslim or atheist is feeding the poor does not mean a Christian is not doing the same. The two are not mutually exclusive. We should help one another do so.
 
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You should be asking why yourself or another Christian isn't doing it instead.

Just because a Muslim or atheist is feeding the poor does not mean a Christian is not doing the same. The two are not mutually exclusive. We should help one another do so.

What Thomas White said.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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It seems like many folks are all for the Christian imprint on government when it comes to things like abortion and homosexuality but not when it comes to something like feeding the poor, health care, or compassionate treatment for children at the border. What is that selective Christianity or Theocracy?
Of course that isn't true at all but I do see how complex issues can be distorted to represent the beliefs & feelings of others as lacking compassion so as to elevate one's own spiritual superiority.
 
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