Amy Coney Barret Confirmation Hearing

Clizby WampusCat said:

He can't just implement a plan by himself. He needs congress to help do that. The dems in the house will never let him repeal or significantly change the ACA. So he is doing what he can as president.

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Except he claimed he had a plan back in 2016. Of course, after he was elected he complained "who knew" that health care was so complicated -- which makes the idea he had a plan ludicrous. How can you have developed a health care plan and not understand how complicated it all is?

Beyond that, he had a Republican House and Senate for two years and never introduced a plan to be considered.

Clizby WampusCat said:

He can't just implement a plan by himself. He needs congress to help do that. The dems in the house will never let him repeal or significantly change the ACA. So he is doing what he can as president.

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1. He had two years of a Republican House and Senate. Not a peep.

2. You might be surprised at how many Democrats want changes made to the ACA. Now, they may not be all the same changes that Trump wants to make, but that's how things go. The concept of "compromise" seems to be all but forgotten. Governing by executive order rather than trying to work out solutions with the opposition is the height of dysfunction. Obama is guilty of the same thing, of course, though to his credit, he did at least try to reach out at first. However, the compromises he was offered seemed to always consist of just the Republicans' demands, which is not how it works.

I think it very odd that you tell us not to worry about health care when the DOJ itself has joined the lawsuit...

While you are quaking in your boots about "socialism" when Biden/Harris are moderates who, even if they could implement all their proposals, would still.leave us with less than half the social.safety net enjoyed by Western Europeans, Canadians, Australians, and Pacific Rim countries.

BTW, several of those countries are deemed "happiest in the world."

Democrats' fears are rational, while you "fear" a happier, healthier, kinder, gentler country dedicated to.the common good.

I wonder what would happen if those propping up any nation said 'we quit. Time for us to be the minority and have our needs met without the responsibility we have previously taken and a moral core that was not self centered.' As for medical, the only difference I see is those other countries mentioned sent the insurance companies packing.

Fantine said:

I think it very odd that you tell us not to worry about health care when the DOJ itself has joined the lawsuit...

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The one against the Affordable Care Act? The DOJ joining it (obviously because Trump wanted them to) doesn't mean anything.

There are two possibilities as to why this was done. The first is that they think they could actually win... in which case it's simply Trump being dumb, as the odds of the ACA being struck down are less than Trump winning the popular vote in 2020, for the reasons I've noted previously. The second is that it's a ploy to try to rally the base that doesn't like the Affordable Care Act... in which case it's also simply Trump being dumb, because I believe the ACA is at an all-time high in terms of popularity.

Trump sometimes does dumb things. Shocking, I know.

Hank77 said:

If she was a man would you even be addressing this? How could he be a SCJ and be a father of seven?

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"Judge Barrett would be the first mother of school-aged children to become a Supreme Court justice. She would also become only the fifth woman ever to serve on the Court."

Barrett had live-in help, a maiden aunt/nanny.

SimplyMe said:

Except he claimed he had a plan back in 2016. Of course, after he was elected he complained "who knew" that health care was so complicated -- which makes the idea he had a plan ludicrous. How can you have developed a health care plan and not understand how complicated it all is?

Beyond that, he had a Republican House and Senate for two years and never introduced a plan to be considered.

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I think the current party line is that Trump couldn't improve things because the democrats fought him.

timothyu said:

I wonder what would happen if those propping up any nation said 'we quit. Time for us to be the minority and have our needs met without the responsibility we have previously taken and a moral core that was not self centered.' As for medical, the only difference I see is those other countries mentioned sent the insurance companies packing.

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Sounds like a sweet deal, being a minority in the USA. Where do I sign up?

timothyu said:

I wonder what would happen if those propping up any nation said 'we quit. Time for us to be the minority and have our needs met without the responsibility we have previously taken and a moral core that was not self centered.'

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If the workers quit then the wealthy would collapse and begin to lose their wealth quickly. I agree, it would be great to see it happen. Let the workers of the nation for once reap the benefits of their labor and let the wealthy vultures try working for a living for a change.

timothyu said:

As for medical, the only difference I see is those other countries mentioned sent the insurance companies packing.

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That's a massive difference. When a country has private insurers as the only option, costs for everyone skyrocket just so an unnecessary middleman can profit from people's sickness and dying. It's a huge moral issue, let alone a huge socio-economic issue. In the US we have 2 systems so it's easy to compare, and clearly the socialized, government-administered system is far superior to private insurance.

For all who have said that Trump does not have a healthcare plan here it is. You don't have to like it or agree with it. But he does have a plan, such a it is.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/America-First-Healthcare-Plan.pdf

HHS Takes Action as Part of President Trump’s Healthcare Plan

Remarks by President Trump on the America First Healthcare Plan | The White House

I am not a fan of all of this it is a plan. We need a real plan to cover people that don't want to have private insurance or cannot afford it. This isn't it, but neither is the ACA.

Now we should get back to Barrett.

The greatest question from the hearings was Senator Kennedy - "Do you hate little warm puppies?"

RocksInMyHead said:

1. He had two years of a Republican House and Senate. Not a peep.

2. You might be surprised at how many Democrats want changes made to the ACA. Now, they may not be all the same changes that Trump wants to make, but that's how things go. The concept of "compromise" seems to be all but forgotten. Governing by executive order rather than trying to work out solutions with the opposition is the height of dysfunction. Obama is guilty of the same thing, of course, though to his credit, he did at least try to reach out at first. However, the compromises he was offered seemed to always consist of just the Republicans' demands, which is not how it works.

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I agree that the parties cannot govern together anymore. It is about getting their way not what can we do that is best for the country. We need to elect better people and we as the citizens need to be better informed as best as we can.

durangodawood said:

The "plan" is mostly goals no plan. Its also a recap of exec actions that have had miniscule affects at the edges of the problem.

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I agree it is not great. But it is a plan.

Clizby WampusCat said:

I agree it is not great. But it is a plan.

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No, it is not a plan. Calling it a "plan" does not make it a plan. What are the deliverables and where is the timeline?

7 Important Elements of a Strategic Plan

ArmenianJohn said:

No, it is not a plan. Calling it a "plan" does not make it a plan. What are the deliverables and where is the timeline?

7 Important Elements of a Strategic Plan

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Call it what you want but it is what he is doing. Like it or not.

I should point out that Canada still has private insurers for what is not covered in our medicare program. I refer to costs like prescription drugs, vision care and dental care.