Primitive Baptists

Thanks - I have been curious about that faith group for some time, and I am looking for a church home.

JM said:

Great channel worth keep your eye on.

Yours in the Lord,

jm

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Being, as you know, raised a Primitive Baptist I can’t wait to hear what he has to say about the Gospel and election. Of course those are the two main points that caused me to separate from them.

I went to his channel but apparently he hasn’t gotten to doctrine yet. Will check again sometime.

JM said:

I've been listening to Primitive Baptists via podcasts and it's clear they believe in election, however, it also seems they do not believe in salvation through faith, rather, by decree.

Is that correct?

Yours in the Lord,

jm

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Yes that’s true. I’ve heard them often say that God’s elect in the far reaches of the jungle who never hear of Christ are just as saved as those who do hear. Sad to be sure. That is why I am waiting to hear what Will says about it.

JM said:

I thought so.

What about conditional time salvation or something like that? I've forgotten a lot about PB theology but every now and then a word or phrase comes to mind.

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Yes they hold to a “time salvation” conditioned on you joining the church. Their gospel is not salvation through faith in Christ alone but of time salvation gained by joining the church.

twin1954 said:

Yes they hold to a “time salvation” conditioned on you joining the church. Their gospel is not salvation through faith in Christ alone but of time salvation gained by joining the church.

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So that the puts the non-denominational Laz outside of salvation? Sounds like high-pressure tactics to me.

Here is a link to an older description of the Primitive Baptist’s by a former elder. It does a great job of explaining what they are and what they believe:

So BP's are more calvinistic then huh? TIL.

JM said:

If I understand them correctly they don't believe you have to evangelize or even believe to be one of the elect.

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But...above, twin1954 said this: "Yes they hold to a “time salvation” conditioned on you joining the church. Their gospel is not salvation through faith in Christ alone but of time salvation gained by joining the church."

I am confused...

Lazarus Short said:

But...above, twin1954 said this: "Yes they hold to a “time salvation” conditioned on you joining the church. Their gospel is not salvation through faith in Christ alone but of time salvation gained by joining the church."

I am confused...

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It can be very confusing to be sure. You can ask ten different elders and get ten different answers but it always comes down to the elect being saved with or without faith. To them election is salvation instead of unto salvation through faith. I struggled a lot with what is the Gospel until what the Bible actually says was revealed to me by the Spirit.

Theirs is another gospel sadly, though I still love them. I just can’t call them brethren. It breaks my heart because both of my parents died still believing their false gospel.

There are not many Primitive Baptists north of the Ohio River...