Where do you take this "one tribe" thing from? I suppose you misinterpret a verse which calls the people of Israel (all 12 tribes) a "tribe" (in some translations?).
nope...Jacob had 12 sons one of them was named Judah...and ONE of the tribes of Israel...but you wish to overcomplicate and overthink all this to blur the lines and move the goal posts
Why do you use a form (Yahushua) that is neither correct (three wrong vowels, I told you) nor convenient?
to initiate this very topic...He wasnt English after all...anything but “Jesus” then...because names matter...reveal things mean things represent things...shrines and even temples are built for them...
No. You are the one lying if you turn the remarks that specific laws were alikwe for strangers and Israelites into a general statement about all laws,
specific Laws specifically the Sabbath...included the strangers within thy gates...THE ONLY ONE of the “10” which adds to the irony of your rejection...
even after I pointed to a law in the Pentateuch which explicitely shows different rules for Israelites and foreigners.
Two...Passover meat is not for them...as in order to have the meat you must sacrifice a lamb...those Egyptians joining the Hebrews that day to head into the wilderness had sacrificed enough... their first born
but unleavened bread as are the other of His times IS for them now ADOPTED INTO grafted INTO Israel...even to receive land...
A person not curcmcised is no Israelite, so your distinction points back to the distinction Jew/Gentile.
oh my...so woman are not Israelite?
And just as all who are circumcised are NOT Israel other nations practiced cutting...finally Israel was judged as uncircumcised...THE IRONY...
And the foreigner who settled with them even received land promised to Israel...because they were adopted in...neat eh?
Again...those that followed Him into the wilderness and to receive the Sabbath were not asked if they were circumcised...and the Sabbath was the ONLY commandment including those strangers within thy gates...
Why do you think I missed that? Just because I didn't say it explicitly, but focused on our discussion?
nope...because your rebellion from His Ways its Sabbath...is such that you rather strain at a GNAT while swallowing a CAMEL...pharisees are known to do that...
good it’s settled Law NEVER JUSTIFIED but His people having been SAVED then DO IT...because they were by Him...
just like Israel was saved from Egypt and THEN given His living oracles to teach them who they were...
Rem,ember, I answered to one who denied it was Israelm who will be saved as a whole, reinterpreting Rom 11 aas if the cut-off branches will never be re-inserted.
WHOSEVER believes will be saved and called Israel...and if those branches that were cut off come to BELIEVE Him they will be redrafted...and rejoin those branches which were NOT cut off...and US strangers within their gates...who ALSO match those branches NOT cut off because we bear MORE similar fruit to Him and His...
I tell you a "secret": Since the temple has been destroyed about 1950 years ago, Jews long ago have abandoned a "faith in the temple",
two world wars and the ongoing wars of Zionism and you wish to tell me a people have given up on a temple? LOL
Even those claiming to abide IN HIM champion this cause...while rejecting His Way...
even Messianics minimize Him while rather supporting Zionism...
as Heb 8:13 predicted: This has disappeared "soon". This does not mean that they received Christ,
yes the original bride separated herself her marriage contract “I DO” from Sinai by killing her Husband
but from Rom 11 we gain the confidence all Israel will repent
if they do not continue in unbelief of Him
(when Jesus returns, after what Gentile Christians and "Christians" did to Jews in the last two millennia, they are almost immune to preaching from this quarter, its our fault).
ironic the Jews believe as taught by Christians is He did away with the Law is their primary rejection...maybe if Christians were NOT so keen on forgetting He was Jewish and followed customs Moses delivered and instructed ALL His do the same...
Do not eat anything you find already dead. You may give it to the foreigner residing in any of your towns, and they may eat it
This is a law equal for Israelites and foreigners?
this is your champion?
Don’t forget the Passover Meat is also NOT for the uncircumcised...ironic His no longer serve it...but the bread yes...
You put this word out of context - the contrast is not "man or Jew", it is "Sabbath for us" or "we for Sabbath".
glad you see it...indeed it is for us...mankind...NOT A BURDEN because it is a DAY OF REST...lol...your rebellion against His Way made for us is without rest too...
His way is NOT burdensome for those that Love Him...and as He did us...
If anyone interprets the Sabbath commandment in a way to make it into a burden rather than a gift, he is wrong.
and yet you/yours do...
It is a twisting of words to read "man, not Jew" into that.
if He had meant it was made for Jews He would have said that...He did NOT
In fact had He intended ANY of what you insist He would have clearly said that...it is NOT hard to say “Sabbath is abolished you can eat Ham now” in Greek Latin German or English...and I am sure language alone does NOT prevent it being said in Hebrew or Aramaic
No, it is you who misses a point: During the covenant of Sinai, God let the people in the world go their own was,
He came to search among the Gentiles a people for His Name...to be a blessing to the world...those at Sinai were the descendants of one He made THAT covenant with...and already at Sinai full of those NOT of Jacob...
only with the New Covenant of Jesus he called everyone (not just every Israelite) to repent, Acts 14:16; 17:30. The coveant about the blessing for every natiion is not thecovenant from mount Sinai.
sure it is...as SPECIFIED in the Sabbath commandment...you think He created the world in six days for just Jews?
But for ALL as was the dedication of His temple...read Solomon’s prayer of dedication
Incidentally He could have created everything in a BIG BANG and instantaneous like...but He chose to do it in six days and then the seventh day rest...made Holy
Why do you write "Saul" instead of "Shaul"? It is saulos in the NT for the very same reason it is iesou(s), not ieshou(s).
to provoke responses such as yours...My Savior His way message and gospel is NOT Paul...so his name is not as important...that His is NOT “Jesus” is...
Even before Shaul started to persecute, one leader of the Greek-speaking part of the church was sentenced to death by the highest Jewish court.
yup they do that...
You didn't give any scriptural evidence for that.
Matt 24 scopes into “end times” unless you think 70AD the WORST EVER in history or to come... and had those days not been shortened NO FLESH would be saved...
Did I ever say anything in this direction? Please stop asking silly questions.
you said Heb 4:9 is not about the Sabbath...not a seventh day of rest after six of work...
You forgot to mention Aramaic ... and a person that changes sh to s in omne name cannot compülaint about a form that only deviates from the Aramaic original in that same point.
not a Greek word...is the point...necessary to emphasis the Shabbat of it all which remains for His people and NOT JUST JEWS
then? Did you read the OT?
the world saw the emergence of hatred against Israel in that very people that you refer to. It crept there from pagan antisemitism.
even Rabbis joke if Yah hadn’t written the OT then antisemites did...
You cannot love Jesus and hate Jews.
true...we are to love even our enemies...
and be wise as snakes harmless as doves...
The very kernel of the Christian faith is the faith in the saving power who died on the cross and stood up again on the 3rd day.
having rested in the tomb on the Sabbath and risen that day refreshed in time for First Fruits festival...and continued 40 days and 5 weekends NOTHING changed or taught changed...
Which means that he did not hers iesou(s) (pronounced "yesus", with deep long u, as "oo" in "cool"), but rather yeshu`(with a consonant [ayin] at the end that is absent from modern Ivrit).
certainly NOT “Jesus”
He is not Joshua, but he has the same name. Modern "messianic" Jews call him jhowshu` (pronounced "Joshua" in Ivrit), because they do not speak Aramaic, but rather Hebrew, so they use the Hebrew for, not the Aramaic one.
He was named an Aramaic name? Certainly not English or German Greek or Latin...
What do you want to say? Just putting the word "Jesus" (in any form) into your mouth has power? Well, Acts 19:11-16 tells otherwise (and v.15 shows this was not an issue about the correct variant of that name).
it is enough to remind people that He was Jewish following customs delivered by Moses...
The word "name" has to be interpreted, especially when a literal rendering leads to a contradiction with other parts of Scripture. I did not say the correct interpretation is always the same word, you have to look into the context, of course.
the context remaining the same that He followed the customs Moses delivered...and instructed His to do the same...
You twisted the name of or Lord and Savior, you twisted the name of Shaul, it is no surprise you even twist my name. It's not English, it is from a German dialect, the etymology is probably something like hail-mood.
see? Names matter...lol...so you are German...that does explain or?
I never read in Scripture that a wrong form of the name (which, BTW, includes the form we read in the NT!) is anything we should worry about, on the contrary I read we should not dispute about words, 2Tm 2:14. So I stand up against those that make an issue about the word Jesus, and don't see the significance of that name.
the significance is that Yah saves us with His Son Who followed customs He delivered to Moses...
He came in His Father’s Name and is STILL not accepted...nor are His Ways which He demonstrated and taught...but His ONE bride will...and be returned to Factory Installled Manufacturer Default Settings...as it was before this detour of sin...when ONLY the Sabbath was revealed...but ALREADY His way for His people...
