Billy Graham....I couldn't believe it!

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If I said Billy Graham may very well be headed for Hell, would you believe it? A year ago, I would not have believed it but I found new evidence that indicates that he may very well indeed be headed for Hell. Why??? The why is because what he preached on the pulpit in front of thousands upon thousands of people is NOT what he believed! Don't believe me? Go to this youtube video and see for yourself. It's both scary and very, very sad:

 

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If I said Billy Graham may very well be headed for Hell, would you believe it? A year ago, I would not have believed it but I found new evidence that indicates that he may very well indeed be headed for Hell. Why??? The why is because what he preached on the pulpit in front of thousands upon thousands of people is NOT what he believed! Don't believe me? Go to this youtube video and see for yourself. It's both scary and very, very sad:

Wonderful. Let's drag the name of the most influential evangelist ever through the mud. Billy Graham was born again. Whatever his faults, flaws, and blind spots, he was a true man of God. Yes, he had his own issues, just like everyone else. That does not diminish his work for the Lord. If you get to heaven, you will meet him there.
 
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Hi gentlemantech,

Be careful where you step. I believe that what Billy Graham was saying was that God is calling out a people for His name. He is calling out those people 'out of' a lot of other faiths. He was not saying that other faiths will save anyone. In speaking of Jesus, he says that these people seeking him may not even know that he exists, but then goes on to say that they have a yearning in their hearts, and so they seek for him. They won't find Jesus in some false faith. Billy Graham knew that.

However, it is true that Billy Graham always tried to deliver the message of the gospel of Jesus in a manner of inclusion rather than division, which brings condemnation. He was never one to stand up and say that if someone was a Muslim or a Buddhist that they were going to hell.

I also appreciate that Billy Graham handled political issues differently than his son Franklin. Billy Graham never, ever endorsed a political candidate. He would counsel them when called and he worked to befriend any politician to be able to deliver the message of the gospel with any of them as a friend. But he never once in all of his days made any claim that he preferred one candidate over another. Not so, Franklin. Franklin has thrown his hat squarely in the ring with Donald Trump and that gives me pause as to whether or not he is as godly as his father.

Finally, don't concern yourself with where Billy Graham is. His life is over and where he is is where he is. I think God desires that we care more about the living than the dead.

God bless,
Ted
 
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If I said Billy Graham may very well be headed for Hell, would you believe it? A year ago, I would not have believed it but I found new evidence that indicates that he may very well indeed be headed for Hell. Why??? The why is because what he preached on the pulpit in front of thousands upon thousands of people is NOT what he believed! Don't believe me? Go to this youtube video and see for yourself. It's both scary and very, very sad:

You don't go to heaven because you are right about every religious issue.

You go to heaven because you've made friends with God ...
 
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Hi gentlemantech,

Be careful where you step. I believe that what Billy Graham was saying was that God is calling out a people for His name. He is calling out those people 'out of' a lot of other faiths. He was not saying that other faiths will save anyone. In speaking of Jesus, he says that these people seeking him may not even know that he exists, but then goes on to say that they have a yearning in their hearts, and so they seek for him. They won't find Jesus in some false faith. Billy Graham knew that.

However, it is true that Billy Graham always tried to deliver the message of the gospel of Jesus in a manner of inclusion rather than division, which brings condemnation. He was never one to stand up and say that if someone was a Muslim or a Buddhist that they were going to hell.

I also appreciate that Billy Graham handled political issues differently than his son Franklin. Billy Graham never, ever endorsed a political candidate. He would counsel them when called and he worked to befriend any politician to be able to deliver the message of the gospel with any of them as a friend. But he never once in all of his days made any claim that he preferred one candidate over another. Not so, Franklin. Franklin has thrown his hat squarely in the ring with Donald Trump and that gives me pause as to whether or not he is as godly as his father.

Finally, don't concern yourself with where Billy Graham is. His life is over and where he is is where he is. I think God desires that we care more about the living than the dead.

God bless,
Ted

You made a very good point! He was never one to argue, he was always in search of a way to reach people with the gospel.

If he had the divisional approach with the Gospel he preached he would not get the opportunity to present that Gospel to these people.

I think many have misunderstood this great man of God.
 
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what he preached on the pulpit in front of thousands upon thousands of people is NOT what he believed!
That's not true. Graham was obligated to preach the Gospel, and he did faithfully. What he is saying in that clip is that we look on the outward appearance, but God sees the heart, and He judges by the light available to each one. I agree with him.
 
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Wonderful. Let's drag the name of the most influential evangelist ever through the mud. Billy Graham was born again. Whatever his faults, flaws, and blind spots, he was a true man of God. Yes, he had his own issues, just like everyone else. That does not diminish his work for the Lord. If you get to heaven, you will meet him there.
We all have faults, flaws, and blind spots but when your actual beliefs are contrary to The Word Of God, you are being lead by Satan and you will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God.
 
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Hi gentlemantech,

Be careful where you step. I believe that what Billy Graham was saying was that God is calling out a people for His name. He is calling out those people 'out of' a lot of other faiths. He was not saying that other faiths will save anyone. In speaking of Jesus, he says that these people seeking him may not even know that he exists, but then goes on to say that they have a yearning in their hearts, and so they seek for him. They won't find Jesus in some false faith. Billy Graham knew that.

However, it is true that Billy Graham always tried to deliver the message of the gospel of Jesus in a manner of inclusion rather than division, which brings condemnation. He was never one to stand up and say that if someone was a Muslim or a Buddhist that they were going to hell.

I also appreciate that Billy Graham handled political issues differently than his son Franklin. Billy Graham never, ever endorsed a political candidate. He would counsel them when called and he worked to befriend any politician to be able to deliver the message of the gospel with any of them as a friend. But he never once in all of his days made any claim that he preferred one candidate over another. Not so, Franklin. Franklin has thrown his hat squarely in the ring with Donald Trump and that gives me pause as to whether or not he is as godly as his father.

Finally, don't concern yourself with where Billy Graham is. His life is over and where he is is where he is. I think God desires that we care more about the living than the dead.

God bless,
Ted
I am concerned about a dead "evangelist" because I am concerned about the modern church as a whole! If the most loved evangelist had it wrong, how many others have it wrong? Did you take the time to watch the video I posted? It is very enlightening!
 
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You don't go to heaven because you are right about every religious issue.

You go to heaven because you've made friends with God ...
You go to heaven by having total faith in the Gospel message. You have faith in Jesus when He said "I am the way, the truth, and the life". To give credence to other religions is blasphemy and deserves Hell.
 
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We all have faults, flaws, and blind spots but when your actual beliefs are contrary to The Word Of God, you are being lead by Satan and you will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God.

Hi GT,

Well again, I'll just caution you to be careful where you step. Remember too, that God's word tells us that as we judge, so will we be judged. Personally, I believe that you and Rev. John MacArthur may have misunderstood Billy Graham's message in that interview However, I have never felt that Rev. Robert Schuler was quite the man of God that Billy Graham was, and so it's certainly possible that the misunderstanding comes from the way he accepted Mr. Graham's message.

God bless,
Ted
 
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I am concerned about a dead "evangelist" because I am concerned about the modern church as a whole! If the most loved evangelist had it wrong, how many others have it wrong? Did you take the time to watch the video I posted? It is very enlightening!

HI GT,

I did and I've actually seen that video before. It's been making the rounds for quite some time. After all, it was produced in 1997.

God bless,
Ted
 
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I am concerned about a dead "evangelist" because I am concerned about the modern church as a whole! If the most loved evangelist had it wrong, how many others have it wrong? Did you take the time to watch the video I posted? It is very enlightening!

Hi GT,

Then your post should be more about believers believing what Billy Graham proclaimed and not so much on Billy Graham being in hell. Your entire OP spends the entire verbiage on Billy Graham being in hell. Never once do you make mention that we, as believers, should carefully investigate what Billy Graham seemed to teach according to this video.

God bless,
Ted
 
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If I said Billy Graham may very well be headed for Hell, would you believe it? A year ago, I would not have believed it but I found new evidence that indicates that he may very well indeed be headed for Hell. Why??? The why is because what he preached on the pulpit in front of thousands upon thousands of people is NOT what he believed! Don't believe me? Go to this youtube video and see for yourself. It's both scary and very, very sad:


Oh, it's so important to believe everything that is portrayed on YouTube. Of course, the Bible, reputable news organizations, and others should be ignored. It's important to believe that whatever is posted on YouTube is the gospel truth, right??
 
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If I said Billy Graham may very well be headed for Hell, would you believe it? A year ago, I would not have believed it but I found new evidence that indicates that he may very well indeed be headed for Hell. Why??? The why is because what he preached on the pulpit in front of thousands upon thousands of people is NOT what he believed! Don't believe me? Go to this youtube video and see for yourself. It's both scary and very, very sad:


I have a problem with the inconsistencies between some of what Billy Graham taught and the Bible, and I don't always read my Bible and come to the same conclusions as John MacArthur either...

I fully admit I know more about MacArthur than I do Graham, so where MacArthur is concerned I save my disagreements for what I disagree with him on, and respect him for who he is...

I believe the best stance is to teach what your beliefs are, instead of attacking people and declaring them hellbound. We can say what of the theology is Biblical or not, but we cannot judge the heart - only God can do that.

I think certain things take one pretty far from Christianity, believing in an all roads lead to heaven type theology is not Biblical, and therefore anti Christian in nature, but it's better to teach correct doctrine to those you teach, than it is to condemn men... especially those who can't correct your understanding of what they meant.
 
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I am concerned about a dead "evangelist" because I am concerned about the modern church as a whole! If the most loved evangelist had it wrong, how many others have it wrong? Did you take the time to watch the video I posted? It is very enlightening!
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Only God knows for sure. I have seen much good fruit come from billy.grahams. Ministry

Also we.all see.through a glass dimly as Paul says.God does not.expect.theological perfection but an obedient heart that loves Him
 
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We all have faults, flaws, and blind spots but when your actual beliefs are contrary to The Word Of God, you are being lead by Satan and you will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God.
I do not believe that you are qualified to judge.
"Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand." Romans 14:4
 
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I do not believe that you are qualified to judge.
"Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand." Romans 14:4
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That is true. We judge fruit but we don't judge someone s eternal destiny becAuse we can not know it
 
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You go to heaven by having total faith in the Gospel message. You have faith in Jesus when He said "I am the way, the truth, and the life". To give credence to other religions is blasphemy and deserves Hell.
The scriptures nowhere say anything about a "total" faith. You made that up.

God said that ALL SIN deserves death. That's why Jesus came ... to atone for our sin. All one need do is to trust in Him to save them.

The apostles had their own issues with sin. That they did did not disqualify them ...
 
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You go to heaven by having total faith in the Gospel message. You have faith in Jesus when He said "I am the way, the truth, and the life". To give credence to other religions is blasphemy and deserves Hell.
As to the video, there is no doubt that many believers will come from the worlds steeped in Islam, or Hinduism, or atheism, etc.

I know this because Jesus sent His gospel out to the world ...

Acts 1:8 "But you will receive power, the Holy Spirit having come upon you, and you will be witnesses for Me, both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the uttermost part of the earth."

So there is no question that God has other sheep ... who are not among us ...

John 10:16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

And I have personally heard testimony of those to whom God delivered the message of salvation apart from the preaching of men ... through a dream or a vision, etc. Consider the God-fearer Cornelius.

Also consider that the scriptures detail the the risen Christ, Himself, stormed the gates of death/Hell, and, Himself, preached to the captives, ...

1 Peter 3

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20 Which sometime were disobedient
, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Finally, we know, from the scriptures, ... that God has saved many who have never heard the gospel from men. For we know that He saved ...

Enoch (who He translated)
Noah (the drunkard)
Abraham (the liar)
Sarah (who laughed at the promise of God)
Isaac (the son of his father)
Jacob (the con-man)
Joseph (the dreamer)
Moses (the murderer)
Rahab (the prostitute)
Gedeon (the God-tester)
Barak (who needed Deborah by his side)
Samson (the vow-breaker)
David (the adulterer/murderer)
Samuel (he who answered the call of God by night)

He has saved all of these ... who heard no preaching of the gospel by men, ... because GOD met them personally in their lives ...

Bible Gateway passage: Hebrews 11 - King James Version

Certainly God has not limited His methods to the preaching of men in this age. We all know that He would not have it be that a single soul is left dependent upon the fragility of the work of men.

For God, says Peter ...

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
 
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If I said Billy Graham may very well be headed for Hell, would you believe it? A year ago, I would not have believed it but I found new evidence that indicates that he may very well indeed be headed for Hell. Why??? The why is because what he preached on the pulpit in front of thousands upon thousands of people is NOT what he believed! Don't believe me? Go to this youtube video and see for yourself. It's both scary and very, very sad:


How about you worry about the log in your own eye, and leave judgment to Christ, the only One who is fit to judge.

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