Is the Day of the Lord exactly 1000 years as Premils claim?

Timtofly

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It is not in the text, and you know it. Pretrib is always having to force their beliefs where they do not exist. That is called adding unto Scripture, but that is exactly what Pretrib is. It is extra-biblical.
No that would be you adding into the text, because you claim it happens after, and the end of whatever you claim does not happen.
 
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Again, you seem to have an inability to acknowledge what Scripture is actually saying because you are driven by the need to support an extra-biblical man-made doctrine.
You cannot explain who Christ brings either, or you would have given the correct answer.

You have private interpretation explanation of Scripture. You need to show your own interpretation to literal passages that say the opposite of what you claim.
 
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Are there any believers in your supposed future 7-years tribulation after "your Pretrib rapture"?
Already answered this. Those who say Lord Lord, but are refused, because the Lord never knew them.
 
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None of the Old Testament prophets or New Testament writers mention a literal 1,000 yrs in which Satan is bound and where the glorified saints inherit a new earth along with billions of mortal sinners. None mention a sin-cursed, goat-infested, death-blighted future earthly millennial kingdom.

I agree.
 
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Stop avoiding. Are there any?
Is a believer one who cries, Lord Lord? If that is not a believer, then you answered your own question. Stop avoiding defining a believer. The demons are believers, if believing God is the Saviour of mankind, makes you a believer. Unfortunately it is a little late for the soul they are attached to at the GWT.

What are sheep and wheat and why are they separate from the church? Is the church in the New Jerusalem or on earth. If there is no one on earth, why have an earth? Is it devoid of humanity?
 
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The covenant with many is the treaty of the anti-christ. Has nothing to do with Matthew 26:28.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


The following scholar reveals the fact that there is no singular antecedent for an "antichrist" in Daniel chapter 9.


There is also no "gap" of almost 2,000 years in the 490 years of the prophecy.

Do you want us to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant?


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The following scholar reveals the fact that there is no singular antecedent for an "antichrist" in Daniel chapter 9.


There is also no "gap" of almost 2,000 years in the 490 years of the prophecy.

Do you want us to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant?


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I don`t think any of your assertations make a difference. God keeps many things a secret, it`s necessary due to satan`s interference.
 
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I don`t think any of your assertations make a difference. God keeps many things a secret, it`s necessary due to satan`s interference.

That seems a bit of a cop-out.
 
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I don`t think any of your assertations make a difference. God keeps many things a secret, it`s necessary due to satan`s interference.

And so far, no Premil has been able to rebut this Op!!!
 
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Since you think we are currently in the day of the Lord, you do not know the length either. How can we trust you to be objective about 1000 years being the length of one Lord's Day? Do you trust Peter to know how long a day is with the Lord? Does Peter tell us not to be ignorant? Who is claiming a Lord's Day cannot be 1000 years? We can only trust Peter and accept that his letters were inspired by the Holy Spirit. Should we question the sanity of one who claims God cannot specify what 1000 means as written?
 
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Should we question the sanity of one who claims God cannot specify what 1000 means as written?

Should we trust the sanity of one who ignores what Christ said in Matthew 25:31-46?

Should we trust the sanity of one who ignores Paul in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10?

Should we trust the sanity of one who ignores Paul in 2 Timothy 4:1?

Should we trust the sanity of one who ignores Revelation 11:18?

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Since you think we are currently in the day of the Lord, you do not know the length either. How can we trust you to be objective about 1000 years being the length of one Lord's Day? Do you trust Peter to know how long a day is with the Lord? Does Peter tell us not to be ignorant? Who is claiming a Lord's Day cannot be 1000 years? We can only trust Peter and accept that his letters were inspired by the Holy Spirit. Should we question the sanity of one who claims God cannot specify what 1000 means as written?

What about someone who contrives alternate meaning for scriptures that don`t fit their beliefs then says no one can rebut me?
 
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I am a premillennialist and I do not believe it is a literal 1,000 years. I also do not believe in the rapture and the idea is absurd.

When Jesus comes back to judge the living and the dead, the dead rise (who were in Christ), then the living (in Christ) rise to Jesus and we all descend and Jesus establishes his kingdom whereby Satan is cast into the bottomless pit. Then after 1,000 years (figurative) Satan is released to be judged and has a final hurrah to influence the world and that is whe Gog and Magog rise up. Then Jesus executes His final judgement and ushers in a new heaven and a new earth.

What here contradicts scripture? Genuinely curious as this is what I was taught.
 
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Since you think we are currently in the day of the Lord, you do not know the length either. How can we trust you to be objective about 1000 years being the length of one Lord's Day? Do you trust Peter to know how long a day is with the Lord? Does Peter tell us not to be ignorant? Who is claiming a Lord's Day cannot be 1000 years? We can only trust Peter and accept that his letters were inspired by the Holy Spirit. Should we question the sanity of one who claims God cannot specify what 1000 means as written?

Nowhere in Scripture does it say that the day of the Lord is 1000 years. You impose that on the sacred text. It is one single climactic day that ushers in eternity.
 
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I am a premillennialist and I do not believe it is a literal 1,000 years. I also do not believe in the rapture and the idea is absurd.

When Jesus comes back to judge the living and the dead, the dead rise (who were in Christ), then the living (in Christ) rise to Jesus and we all descend and Jesus establishes his kingdom whereby Satan is cast into the bottomless pit. Then after 1,000 years (figurative) Satan is released to be judged and has a final hurrah to influence the world and that is whe Gog and Magog rise up. Then Jesus executes His final judgement and ushers in a new heaven and a new earth.

What here contradicts scripture? Genuinely curious as this is what I was taught.

Where do the wicked come from that swamp your future Millennium? Scripture tells us that the age to come has no room for "mortals" (Luke 20:34-36, Romans 8:19-23, 1 Corinthians 15:50-55 and Revelation 21-22) or the unregenerate (Psalms 37:9-11, Luke 17:26-30, 1 Corinthians 6:9, I Thessalonians 5:2-3, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10). This would be a strong argument to me that the second coming is “the end.”
 
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Where do the wicked come from that swamp your future Millennium? Scripture tells us that the age to come has no room for "mortals" (Luke 20:34-36, Romans 8:19-23, 1 Corinthians 15:50-55 and Revelation 21-22) or the unregenerate (Psalms 37:9-11, Luke 17:26-30, 1 Corinthians 6:9, I Thessalonians 5:2-3, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10). This would be a strong argument to me that the second coming is “the end.”

Jesus said otherwise

"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
 
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