France looks to ban homeschool in part to "protect children from religion."

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An American lecturing the French on responsibility, that’s pretty funny. You’re talking about a country where from the time they’re in school, kids will organize protests and march for their rights (and other people’s) because the entire national culture is that everybody is responsible for their country, and letting the government do what they like is a recipe for disaster. How many times have you marched for your rights? How many times have you actually done anything to oppose government laws or rules other than to complain on the internet?

Americans are generally huge on the principle of their personal rights, on what they want, and how things will effect them personally*. France is a country where people care about their countrymen and women, about systems that work for everyone and about fundamental rights for everyone. They even have a day where they work for free (if they choose to) to contribute to the pensions of the elderly.

So please don’t talk about the French not understanding responsibility, it’s a joke.

*Obviously this is a stereotype, in a country of 360m people, people don’t all think alike. But hey you started the stereotypes here.

How does this postulate relate to the facts?

Freedom Index by Country 2020

3 United States 331,002,651

22 France 65,273,511
 
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Freedom Index by Country 2020

3 United States 331,002,651

22 France 65,273,511

That's not a freedom ranking, that's a population ranking.

Correctly interpreting and presenting data is a valuable skill that is also part of a good education.
 
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You're mistaken.

US ranks 3. France ranks 22. The populations were included as side notes.

I provided the link for your review:

Freedom Index by Country 2020

If you'll notice, the numbers 3, and 22, fall in the "rank' column.
From your link:

The ten countries with the highest human freedom indexes (the freest countries in the world) are:
  1. New Zealand 8.88
  2. Switzerland 8.82
  3. Hong Kong 8.81
  4. Canada 8.65
  5. Australia 8.62
  6. Denmark 8.56
  7. Luxembourg 8.56
  8. Finland 8.53
  9. Germany 8.53
  10. Ireland 8.52

The US doesn't even make the top 10
 
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From your link:

The ten countries with the highest human freedom indexes (the freest countries in the world) are:
  1. New Zealand 8.88
  2. Switzerland 8.82
  3. Hong Kong 8.81
  4. Canada 8.65
  5. Australia 8.62
  6. Denmark 8.56
  7. Luxembourg 8.56
  8. Finland 8.53
  9. Germany 8.53
  10. Ireland 8.52

The US doesn't even make the top 10

I see now.

My mistake.
 
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I see now.

My mistake.
We all make mistakes. Not everyone is willing to admit them.

And to be fair, the real fault lies with the people who made that useless chart.

They also didn't post ANY sources. What kind of trash website is that anyway?
 
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We all make mistakes. Not everyone is willing to admit them.

And to be fair, the real fault lies with the people who made that useless chart.

They also didn't post ANY sources. What kind of trash website is that anyway?

Indeed; but due diligence pays off.

United States 17 8.75 8.03 8.39

US ranks 17 of worldwide freedom index.

France 32 8.77 7.25 8.01

France ranks 32.

Freest Countries 2020

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You should ask the person who said that france is more free than the USA.

Thanks. I'm multi tasking with my Moderation. It's keeping me very busy. It's new to me; and I'm having difficulty focusing on my conversations. I need to buckle down on my work until I have it mastered. Then I'll be able to devote more of my attention to debates.

I'm leaving this thread now.
 
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FRANCE France moves to ban homeschooling in 2021 - National Association of Catholic Families

French homeschool numbers have been increasing over the years. In efforts to end separatism, France is looking to stop homeschool except in rare cases and align even independent private schools with the same common core curriculum. This is in part to stop Islamic support for sharia law in France.

I am sympathetic to a point, but one extreme (sharia law) does not necessarily justify another extreme (loss of educational freedom).
What an act of religious bigotry. You are right that educational freedom must be protected.
 
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