Corona Virus

rebornfree said:

I'm sorry to hear about the situation in Victoria, Heavenhome; it was reported here in the UK in a BBC News bulletin. I hope and pray that you stay safe.

I agree that we should obey the authorities unless they contradict God (such as telling us not to preach the gospel) and I think that would include health authorities. I'm so thankful that we don't have to wear masks out walking, but going into the shops it's mandatory and people seem to be obeying the instructions.

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Thank you for your kind words, I am well and my life isn't much in the way of social really apart from shopping, doctors and I visit a nursing home once a week with my two Shelties (although with Covid we haven't been able to since March, sent some photos and cards though).
Well today Victoria is now classed as a State of disaster and has put in Stage 4 restrictions for Melbourne( Victoria's capital) and surrounds which is masks always, curfew from 8pm to 5am, shopping one person per household, once a week. No weddings etc.Starting from 6pm.tonight.

Regional Victoria (me) goes to Stage 3 masks worn whenever outside. Shopping only when needed etc. They are trying to avoid it from getting into nursing homes in regional Victoria which so far, have been safe.
Sadly there have been people who don't take it seriously and they found 1 in 4 who tested positive were still going out. This was not guessing as that have contacted and door knocked all who test positive. Of course there have been others who just travel everywhere and don't care.
I have no comprehension of this mentality.
And I'm sick of people who say its not that bad, or its a conspiracy.
The people who have ranted that their rights are denied have driven these stricter measures in that really will infringe on our freedom.
We must look after one another.
Keep safe and well everyone, God bless and keep you all.

rebornfree said:

Yes, I meant that in some places it is less virulent, but I know there is a resurgence in others. In Manchester, UK, which is not far from where I live, more stringent lockdown measures are being applied again.

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I think lockdowns are going to happen in many places in the world again as the so called second wave seems much more contagious and perhaps the original virus has mutated.
We were going well and then it hit again and it is so much worse.
I think that restrictions were lifted too early here.
But that's just me.
I pray that the UK PM acts swiftly and puts health first and foremost.
Most of all I pray you and your loved ones stay safe and well and strong in the Lord.

Heavenhome said:

Thank you for your kind words, I am well and my life isn't much in the way of social really apart from shopping, doctors and I visit a nursing home once a week with my two Shelties (although with Covid we haven't been able to since March, sent some photos and cards though).
Well today Victoria is now classed as a State of disaster and has put in Stage 4 restrictions for Melbourne( Victoria's capital) and surrounds which is masks always, curfew from 8pm to 5am, shopping one person per household, once a week. No weddings etc.Starting from 6pm.tonight.

Regional Victoria (me) goes to Stage 3 masks worn whenever outside. Shopping only when needed etc. They are trying to avoid it from getting into nursing homes in regional Victoria which so far, have been safe.
Sadly there have been people who don't take it seriously and they found 1 in 4 who tested positive were still going out. This was not guessing as that have contacted and door knocked all who test positive. Of course there have been others who just travel everywhere and don't care.
I have no comprehension of this mentality.
And I'm sick of people who say its not that bad, or its a conspiracy.
The people who have ranted that their rights are denied have driven these stricter measures in that really will infringe on our freedom.
We must look after one another.
Keep safe and well everyone, God bless and keep you all.

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Victoria is having it bad, isn't it? I hope the measures your Government is putting in place gets the infection rate down. It's good that it hasn't be found in nursing homes in regional Victoria though. That's a problem we have had here.

I agree about those who don't think it's that bad, and I can't understand how anyone could say that it is a conspiracy theory. (Who is conspiring against what? ) I feel like saying "Come and talk to the 46,000 bereaved families here in the UK, and the many more around the world, and you will see that it is real. Talk to the people who have had it and recovered. Talk to the medical staff, and other key workers, who are tired and worn out because they have given so much to those in need during this time." I just don't get that whole conspiracy thing. Like you I don't understand either about people talking about their freedoms being infringed. We're in a crisis; don't they understand that? On the other side though there are all those who are obeying instructions and have put up with self-isolating when necessary, not going to loved ones funerals, lost jobs or youngsters having missed school, etc.

Anyway I am glad that you are well Heavenhome and haven't had your life disrupted too much. What a lovely idea to visit the nursing home with the shelties in normal times. I imagine that the residents love them.

Heavenhome said:

I think lockdowns are going to happen in many places in the world again as the so called second wave seems much more contagious and perhaps the original virus has mutated.
We were going well and then it hit again and it is so much worse.
I think that restrictions were lifted too early here.
But that's just me.
I pray that the UK PM acts swiftly and puts health first and foremost.
Most of all I pray you and your loved ones stay safe and well and strong in the Lord.

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Thank you for your thoughts. We are fine, but several towns and cities are going into further lockdown. I think it's a difficult balance for governments to get between health and economic survival, but of course health must come first. Perhaps this is why lockdowns are only where the infection rate is creeping up.

visionary - about our immune system - you said:

if it accepts the DNA of the fetal cell, then it would integrate that DNA into their own. Problem is that this could be the opposite sex DNA which would interfere with sexual identity.

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And you said:

Regarding monkey cells

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I have been monkeying around more, lately; does this mean I could have gotten monkey DNA into my brain from a vaccine with monkey DNA used in it?

In most nations the world the population realizes that problems like a war or a pandemic require collective action to meet the threat and that action may require some restrictions on individual liberties for a time. However in the USA there is a large chunk of the population that is so fiercely protective of their individual liberties that they refuse any attempt to act collectively. This is one of the two main reasons that the USA has the highest infection rate and the highest death rate from COVID-19. The other reason is the lack of informed and effective leadership at the very highest level.

only a sojourner said:

Flu shots are becoming available. Flu symptoms can resemble covid 19 symptoms. It is also possible to contract both virus' at the same time which could lead to very serious illness. Just encouraging folks to get a flu shot.

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Yes, here when the pandemic started, everyone was encouraged to get the flu shot.
I normally get it anyway because of health reasons and since a lot of the population got it also, there actually have been few cases of the flu. Along with masks, its been a double whammy, so theres a positive thing to come out of this.
Hopefully where you are, there will be sufficient stocks for as many who want it to get it. (and for free)

Heavenhome said:

the flu shot.

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I told my companion I would get it with her. But we have not remembered, the last two times we have been with one another. I agree with getting the flu shot, but since a number of us are making an extra effort to wear a mask and wash our hands, this could cut the flu numbers. But still I hope to get the flu shot with her.

Heavenhome said:

Hopefully where you are, there will be sufficient stocks for as many who want it to get it. (and for free)

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Even if there were a short supply, the ones immunized would mean fewer people available to spread the disease . . . flu or COVID-19.

And . . . maybe . . . ones who have gotten sick might not have done what they should have done. It might be that taking the precautions was enough to protect people even in hard-hit areas. So, in case this is true, just keep taking the precautions. And even if you seem to be the only one, you could be the one who breaks the chain from others, so it does not pass on to someone who would really be hurt by it.

We're having an increase in cases here, and further restrictions have been put in place in some areas. The Prime Minister will be making a statement on Monday.

It is so sad what is happening again and it seems worse than the first wave.
On the news here tonight they said a study done has found the virus lasts longer on surfaces than first thought.
Stainless steel and glass were shown to last for up to 28 days as was notes. Cotton clothing 7 days. So of course glass would include touch screens etc.
I found it quite overwhelming.
There seems no end in sight, I realise it will never be gotten rid of and the way that's been touted of controlling it is a vaccine.
But even when that comes, at risk groups will naturally be given it first, it is really a pretty long term solution.
I feel so much sorrow for those without God, how do they go on, especially in times like this, if their faith is in man.
I am praying that God brings conviction upon all to cry out to Him in repentance.
Stay safe everyone and may the Lord bless you and keep you.

Heavenhome said:

I feel so much sorrow for those without God, how do they go on, especially in times like this, if their faith is in man.

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During this time of covid-19 I too am sad for those that don't have a personal relationship with God. I am especially concerned for our government leaders and those in the medical field who work closely with them. They often have to make very difficult, heart wrenching decisions and many times it seems as if they are placing their faith in everything and everyone except our Lord and Saviour.

In these challenging times more than anything these people need the faithful prayers of God's people, not only for salvation but also for guidance and wisdom.

Grace and blessings to all

I pray for our politicians to acknowledge and honour the Lord of creation.

We have moved into Tier 2 in the UK Tier system, which means no social mixing indoors and only up to 6 people outdoors. I think interactions which are not purely social are allowed: I have a hair appointment Tuesday, and an electrician coming Friday, so I need to check if they're okay. I think they are. Quite a few areas have Tier 3 with stricter measures. Obviously the Government is trying to reduce the pandemic without too much damage to the economy or mental health etc. A difficult balance, and I pray that they will make wise decisions as well as for their, and others', salvation.

Heavenhome said:

Stainless steel and glass were shown to last for up to 28 days as was notes. Cotton clothing 7 days. So of course glass would include touch screens etc.

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That's really useful to know. I bought some cotton tops recently, and wasn't sure about how to handle them with the COVID risk. So I had a shower, tried them on, decided I was going to keep them and then had another shower. Left them for a few days and then put them through the washing machine. I was laughing at myself as I did it, but with wrapped items I just wipe them with antibacterial wipes; I didn't know what to do with loose clothing.

It is hard to know what to do to keep safe. The basics of masks whenever out, physical distancing, and sanitiser is important.
I think as far as clothes, new or other(after being out) wash them and I think that's pretty good.
We can only use commonsense.

Here where I am in country Victoria even though no cases up where I am, we still have to wear masks when outside of our homes, sanitise, (also before entering stores) distance, and not travel into Melbourne
( that's easy, I never want to be there!).

We are in Spring now but the Northern Hemisphere is heading toward Winter and I hope and pray that numbers will be lessened before it hits.
Sometimes the only way to do this is for a hard lockdown.
I know economies are suffering but its no good economies rising with thousands dying.
Praying for all. Praying for a conviction of sin to fall on those who are not Christian because when all is said and done eternity is what matters most.
God bless all here and be strengthened by the certainty that "He careth for you".

One of my favourite verses that comforts me in these difficult times ....

Deuteronomy 31:8 - ESV

"It is the LORD who goes before you. He will be with you; he will not leave you or forsake you. Do not fear or be dismayed.”

About the so called herd immunity, this makes no sense to me because, as a person can get the flu more than once, what is to say you can only get Covid19 once?

In fact there have been cases.

Please stay as safe as you can everyone and always wear a mask outside of your property.
I get so distressed watching the world news as I just have, and see the growing numbers.

When I drove to the nearest town last week and saw the whole town of people young and old, with masks on, I can't help but think "a year ago no one would ever have believed that this would happen, not only here, but worldwide".
Its like a science fiction movie.

I have to remember that wherever we are, and for whatever reason, God is in sovereign control and nothing can happen without His allowing it.