What Christians think about Trump?

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This Christian voted for Biden. Trump has had numerous affairs, brags about grabbing women by the ___, He has done horrible things to the environment which we as Christians are to care for. Many of those who died of COVID did so because of his mismanagement. Yes, he has appointed pro-life judges, but I don’t think he is pro-life, he just wants the votes. His behavior during his recent COVID infection proves that he isn’t a leader. All he cares about as Trump.

I'm sure all those kids who will be aborted a few days before they were due to be born under a Biden administration will rest easy knowing we saved a few trees.
 
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I'm sure all those kids who will be aborted a few days before they were due to be born under a Biden administration will rest easy knowing we saved a few trees.
Lets see, Trump has been in office for almost four years and abortion is still happening. His current nominee for the Supreme Court has said she would limit Roe but not overrule it.

Oh, and if global warming continues it will be far more than loosing a few trees.
 
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I'm sure all those kids who will be aborted a few days before they were due to be born under a Biden administration will rest easy knowing we saved a few trees.

Biden is not for unrestricted abortion. He is for a woman's right to choose, which is the current law of the land. What has Trump done to change that? Nothing. Instead, he makes promises or issues meaningless executive orders in attempt to get your vote. In the meantime, he tries to cut food stamps and gut healthcare.

Saving "a few trees" is just one platform of the Democratic Party. They also want to feed the poor, care for the elderly, house the homeless, and heal the sick. Welfare, jobs programs, education, government housing, and healthcare are all issues Christ would have supported when He walked the earth. Yet, it's Trump who is "pro-gospel." No, Trump just makes you feel good about what you believe.

What would Jesus do? Would He turn his back on the poor? Would He cut access to healthcare? Would He cut food stamps? Would He cut environmental regulations that prevent companies from poisoning people and the land? Would He turn away the homeless?

If you answered yes to any of those, then you might want to review what you know about Jesus Christ. Our Lord loves and sacrifices. He expects us to love and sacrifice for His kingdom. Somehow, postmodern American Christians think that means building a wall, buying a bunch of guns, and calling for entitlement cuts. The truth hurts, but few people are willing to face that pain. They would rather continue to believe in the lies spewed by false prophets.
 
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Biden is not for unrestricted abortion. He is for a woman's right to choose, which is the current law of the land. What has Trump done to change that? Nothing. Instead, he makes promises or issues meaningless executive orders in attempt to get your vote. In the meantime, he tries to cut food stamps and gut healthcare.

Saving "a few trees" is just one platform of the Democratic Party. They also want to feed the poor, care for the elderly, house the homeless, and heal the sick. Welfare, jobs programs, education, government housing, and healthcare are all issues Christ would have supported when He walked the earth. Yet, it's Trump who is "pro-gospel." No, Trump just makes you feel good about what you believe.

What would Jesus do? Would He turn his back on the poor? Would He cut access to healthcare? Would He cut food stamps? Would He cut environmental regulations that prevent companies from poisoning people and the land? Would He turn away the homeless?

If you answered yes to any of those, then you might want to review what you know about Jesus Christ. Our Lord loves and sacrifices. He expects us to love and sacrifice for His kingdom. Somehow, postmodern American Christians think that means building a wall, buying a bunch of guns, and calling for entitlement cuts. The truth hurts, but few people are willing to face that pain. They would rather continue to believe in the lies spewed by false prophets.

Jesus did all those things himself. He didn't pass the buck to the government. Do you know why? Because if the government would have done all that, the people would have been giving the glory to politicians and the Pharisees, who were leading the people further and further away from God due to their man made laws. So, take that into consideration before you state "it's the law of the land" again. Also, Trump can't end abortion himself, he has to have the supreme court. He's appointing a pro-life judge that will hopefully make it possible to overturn Roe v. Wade now. That's why Dems are going nuts to stop this confirmation.
 
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Also, Trump can't end abortion himself, he has to have the supreme court. He's appointing a pro-life judge that will hopefully make it possible to overturn Roe v. Wade now. That's why Dems are going nuts to stop this confirmation.

Except, as I said earlier, based on her past statements Barrett is unlikely to vote to overturn Roe although she my vote to limit it. "I don't think the core case -- Roe's core holding that, you know, women have a right to an abortion -- I don't think that would change," Barrett said. "But I think the question of whether people can get very late-term abortions, you know, how many restrictions can be put on clinics -- I think that would change."
 
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Jesus did all those things himself. He didn't pass the buck to the government. Do you know why? Because if the government would have done all that, the people would have been giving the glory to politicians and the Pharisees, who were leading the people further and further away from God due to their man made laws. So, take that into consideration before you state "it's the law of the land" again. Also, Trump can't end abortion himself, he has to have the supreme court. He's appointing a pro-life judge that will hopefully make it possible to overturn Roe v. Wade now. That's why Dems are going nuts to stop this confirmation.

So you think Jesus would vote to end all I mentioned if He could vote in this election?
 
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As a Christian my thoughts about Trump are that he is a sick, disturbed, self-absorbed little man whose "values", insofar as they could even so much be called such, are of such diametric opposition to Jesus Christ, Scripture, and the historic teaching of the Christian faith that they can only best be described as antichrist. Politically, Trump represents fascism in America, he has appealed to the basest and darkest impulses of humanity, scape-goated, worked tirelessly at undermining the most elementary principles of democracy and the American republic, sought to divide and sow division. A man of very few scruples, surrounding himself with spineless yes-men who would sell their own soul to the devil if it meant personal political gain. A burning chasm so utterly bereft of any semblance to morality or basic decency, a black void in which nothing exists except the idolatrous infatuation and adoration of the vices and lusts of the flesh.

Trump highlights and exemplifies the hollowness and emptiness that lay in the heart of America. A representation of the darker impulses of our collective id.

What has been made evident, even before the advent of Trump, is that the Church in the United States needs Jesus. Not the superficial plastic idolatrous caricature of Jesus, but Jesus Christ. It is only a church that has anathematized herself through her confession of a false gospel, and the preaching of another Jesus. A shipwrecking of faith by her allegiance to other lords and false gods, chasing after every wind of doctrine by false prophets, false teachers, and false apostles. Christ says to us, "I stand at the door and knock", let us therefore pray and ask that we might buy from Him pure silver and gold refined in the fire, let us return to the True Vine, let us drink of pure water, that we might have life.

Let us repent, and call on the Lord for mercy, let us cry out and pray that He give us drink and parch our thirst. Let us repent, and let go of our false gods and blasphemous lords, cleaving to Jesus Christ, in faith. Let us preach the Gospel without reservation, of the God who gives Himself away in love for the least and worst.

Let us pray that those in power repent, may they be transformed, may they hear our Lord's word, may they face the terror of the Law and repent, that they might hear and believe the Gospel; and upon hearing and believing, may they learn from Christ continually, and devote themselves to turn from wickedness and toward justice. Justice for the poor, justice for the hungry, justice for the oppressed, justice for those who mourn, justice for those who are weak, justice for those who have been crushed, justice for the least of these in our midst. May those to whom the seat of power has been granted use that seat of power for some semblance of good in this world, insofar as this can be done. Grant that we have men and women of peace, of truth, of justice, of compassion, and kindness. That they might be wise in their judiciousness and execution of civil power for the good of people who labor in this world.

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I try not to listen to Mass media because its owned by very wealthy people and mostly liberals so i am not surprised what ever he said its never good and media try to show him from a bad side. I neither support him or not but i am against liberal view point because its not christian.
 
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I try not to listen to Mass media because its owned by very wealthy people and mostly liberals so i am not surprised what ever he said its never good and media try to show him from a bad side. I neither support him or not but i am against liberal view point because its not christian.

I self-identify as socially liberal. Are there views you believe I have which are not Christian? If so, what views do you imagine I espouse which aren't Christian?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I try not to listen to Mass media because its owned by very wealthy people and mostly liberals so i am not surprised what ever he said its never good and media try to show him from a bad side. I neither support him or not but i am against liberal view point because its not christian.

What liberal viewpoints are not Christian? Feeding the poor? Ensuring that all people have healthcare? Fighting for equal rights? Sheltering the homeless? Preventing labor exploitation? Advocating for diplomacy before war? Protecting the environment?
 
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So you think Jesus would vote to end all I mentioned if He could vote in this election?

There's something kind of denigrating toward Jesus to think of him voting in an election. Does a King vote for someone else to lead his country?

That's the issue with American politics. We confine Jesus inside our government, rather than confining our government inside Jesus. So, the answer to your question is that the King of Kings has already commanded us to feed and shelter the poor. That responsibility shouldn't be passed to the government because Jesus commanded us, the Church, to do that. Here's a question for you in return: Who do you trust more to feed and shelter the poor? The government or the Church?
 
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There's something kind of denigrating toward Jesus to think of him voting in an election. Does a King vote for someone else to lead his country?

That's the issue with American politics. We confine Jesus inside our government, rather than confining our government inside Jesus. So, the answer to your question is that the King of Kings has already commanded us to feed and shelter the poor. That responsibility shouldn't be passed to the government because Jesus commanded us, the Church, to do that. Here's a question for you in return: Who do you trust more to feed and shelter the poor? The government or the Church?

The government has way more resources than I do. Voting against the government to use those resources to help the poor would be me saying that people don't need those resources. They do. Jesus told me to feed the poor. If the government can help do that, I will support it.

You're trying to escape the question. Would Jesus vote to end food stamps and government subsidized housing? You know He wouldn't, but you're still arguing with me because you don't want to admit that you might be on the wrong side. You'd rather Jesus fit into your view of the world. Jesus said following Him won't be easy. Doing the right thing is hard because we usually stand in our own way.
 
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What Christians think about Trump?

I'm always thinking about praying for him. Can't pray for him continuously all the time, but Christ/God receives my prayers, knows my innermost thoughts even before their on my tongue.

Isaiah 65:24
 
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There's something kind of denigrating toward Jesus to think of him voting in an election. Does a King vote for someone else to lead his country?

That's the issue with American politics. We confine Jesus inside our government, rather than confining our government inside Jesus. So, the answer to your question is that the King of Kings has already commanded us to feed and shelter the poor. That responsibility shouldn't be passed to the government because Jesus commanded us, the Church, to do that. Here's a question for you in return: Who do you trust more to feed and shelter the poor? The government or the Church?
The government or the church? Why not both? A family may get groceries from a church-sponsored food bank, but that doesn't mean that the children of that family shouldn't get free or low-cost school lunches provided through government funding. It doesn't mean that a single mother shouldn't also get WIC benefits. Why reduce it to either/or?
 
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The government has way more resources than I do. Voting against the government to use those resources to help the poor would be me saying that people don't need those resources. They do. Jesus told me to feed the poor. If the government can help do that, I will support it.

You're trying to escape the question. Would Jesus vote to end food stamps and government subsidized housing? You know He wouldn't, but you're still arguing with me because you don't want to admit that you might be on the wrong side. You'd rather Jesus fit into your view of the world. Jesus said following Him won't be easy. Doing the right thing is hard because we usually stand in our own way.

I think I've already provided a counterargument to fitting Jesus inside my worldview by stating he is above our government. Also, I think you've answered my question about which institution you trust more.
 
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The government or the church? Why not both? A family may get groceries from a church-sponsored food bank, but that doesn't mean that the children of that family shouldn't get free or low-cost school lunches provided through government funding. It doesn't mean that a single mother shouldn't also get WIC benefits. Why reduce it to either/or?

You tell me which scenario gives God more glory.

Our current system in which our secular government who has stated what they do has nothing to do with any religion takes your money and gives poor children free food at school.

The Church comes together and we ensure those same kids are getting free food at school.

Rest assured, when the government feeds someone, the vast majority aren't thanking God, they are thanking Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump.
 
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You tell me which scenario gives God more glory.

Our current system in which our secular government who has stated what they do has nothing to do with any religion takes your money and gives poor children free food at school.

The Church comes together and we ensure those same kids are getting free food at school.

Rest assured, when the government feeds someone, the vast majority aren't thanking God, they are thanking Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump.
Get real! I have yet to see a child who has received a school lunch thank either Pelosi or Trump. If they do say a prayer they thank God.
 
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Rest assured, when the government feeds someone, the vast majority aren't thanking God, they are thanking Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump.

And yet God is glorified because a hungry mouth is fed.

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I think I've already provided a counterargument to fitting Jesus inside my worldview by stating he is above our government. Also, I think you've answered my question about which institution you trust more.

You're saying that Jesus's work must be restricted to the Church. You're trying to put Him in a box. Everything is His. If He uses the government to feed the poor, then we are to give Him the glory. Are you saying that He does not deserve that glory? Or does He only deserve the glory when He feeds the hungry in a way that justifies your political perspective?
 
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