divination vs word of wisdom

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This forum is only for those who believe in God's spiritual gifts

We probably differ in our definitions but trying to clarify. If you were explaining the difference(s) in divination and God's spiritual gifts to a new believer what would you say? This is what I had planned to say but open to your suggestions. This doesn't include end time Scriptures.

In Acts 16, there is an account of a girl with the spirit of divination who for several days stated that "These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation." This was accurate information stating who they were (word of knowledge) and what they would do (word of wisdom).

Some get upset when the future is stated concerning someone's life. But there are Scriptures that state ...
-"Behold, the former things have come to pass, and new things I now declare; before they spring forth I tell you of them." Isa 42:9

-"But when *he* is come, the Spirit of truth, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but whatsoever he shall hear he shall speak; and he will announce to you what is coming."
John 16:13

-"...Ananias.” And he said, “Here I am, Lord.” 11 So the Lord said to him, “Arise and go to the street called Straight, and inquire at the house of Judas for one called Saul of Tarsus, for behold, he is praying. 12 And in a vision he has seen a man named Ananias coming in and putting his hand on him, so that he might receive his sight.” "For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake." Acts 9

Scripture is clear about avoiding divination, witches, sorcerers such as Deut 18:912, Lev 19:12, Jer 27:9, II Kings 9;22, Acts 19:19.

When looking at this topic, the source of the information is the key.
-"Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite." Psa 147:5
-"Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. 7 And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them." Isa 44
-"Who could ever wrap their minds around the riches of God, the depth of his wisdom, and the marvel of his perfect knowledge? Who could ever explain the wonder of his decisions or search out the mysterious way he carries out his plans?" Rom11
 
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Scripture gives clear warning against the deception of Satan and his demons. The giving of such a warning obviously proves that Christians are vulnerable in some way to being led astray by demons.
To be led astray by demons shows they must be able to speak to us, and we must be able to hear their voices!

If we can't hear their voices, how can they deceive us?
If we can't hear demons speaking, where do doctrines of demons come from?

Demons deceive us by whispering into our inner thoughts, making it appear that their voice is part of our own thought pattern.

Cessationists are adamant that God no longer speaks to his own blood bought children, yet we are repeatedly warned that he who would kill steal and destroy can freely speak to us.

Such a false theology grants Satan a closer involvement in the lives of God's children, than they grant to God himself!

2Cor10v3For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
 
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Spirits of divination present the devil's truth and the outcome he seeks. It is found in those who intentionally turn to him for advice. Like psychics, mediums, tarot card readers, etc. The key is using other methods to find answers. Whereas, lying spirits deceive and may pretend to hail from the Lord. They usually tell the person what they want to hear.

The Holy Spirit tells me the truth. Not what I want to hear. He doesn't paint the other person as the bad guy and I'm an angel or always right. Oftentimes, He shows me how to see things from their point of view and addresses it lovingly. He compels me to love, give, and behave benevolently. He encourages me to forgive, make peace, and ignore an offense.

In short, He encourages me to be more Christlike in my thoughts and interactions. Deceptive spirits pull us away from God. They'll encourage us to do things for selfish interests and otherness is lacking.

Yours in His Service,

~Bella
 
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Yes, I believe we first have to weigh things according to God's Word. To do that we have to KNOW God's Word. Not just head knowledge, but understanding.

"my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. “Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children."
Hosea 4:6

Dreams can hold spiritual warfare just like real life. That spiritual warfare is divination, because it may hold some truth, but also hold deceptive/distracting spirits like the girl in Acts 16. Dreams are no small business. Definitely has to be weighed and watched carefully. Prayed about...
 
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"The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."

I am unsure what divination is. But if any pretension sets itself up against the knowledge of God, that is spiritual warfare, and I will not entertain that.
 
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Ephesians 6:12

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
 
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I am unsure what divination is.

All of the following give a reasonable overview of what divination means.-
Freedictionary.com
1. (Alternative Belief Systems) the art, practice, or gift of discerning or discovering future events or unknown things, as though by supernatural powers.

Merriam Webster

1: the art or practice that seeks to foresee or foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge usually by the interpretation of omens or by the aid of supernatural powers.

Brittanica
Divination, the practice of determining the hidden significance or cause of events, sometimes foretelling the future, by various natural, psychological, and other techniques. Found in all civilizations, both ancient and modern, it is encountered most frequently in contemporary mass society in the form of horoscopes, astrology, crystal gazing, tarot cards, and the Ouija board.
In the context of ancient Roman culture and belief, divination was concerned with discovering the will of the gods.

As can be seen, divination delves into the supernatural for answers, completely outside of God. Therefore any answers received must come from an occult source, demons.

Anyone, including christians, seeking answers from such occult sources, by their choice of action, automatically open themselves up to demonic intrusion, ie demonisation.
 
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All of the following give a reasonable overview of what divination means.-
Freedictionary.com
1. (Alternative Belief Systems) the art, practice, or gift of discerning or discovering future events or unknown things, as though by supernatural powers.

Merriam Webster

1: the art or practice that seeks to foresee or foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge usually by the interpretation of omens or by the aid of supernatural powers.

Brittanica
Divination, the practice of determining the hidden significance or cause of events, sometimes foretelling the future, by various natural, psychological, and other techniques. Found in all civilizations, both ancient and modern, it is encountered most frequently in contemporary mass society in the form of horoscopes, astrology, crystal gazing, tarot cards, and the Ouija board.
In the context of ancient Roman culture and belief, divination was concerned with discovering the will of the gods.

As can be seen, divination delves into the supernatural for answers, completely outside of God. Therefore any answers received must come from an occult source, demons.

Anyone, including christians, seeking answers from such occult sources, by their choice of action, automatically open themselves up to demonic intrusion, ie demonisation.

Thank you for the definitions! Saved me looking it up. So as long as I am seeking answers from God and not something else, then it is not divination?
 
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