2300 DAY PROPHECY OF DANIEL

Douggg said:

Does it not make sense that because it s commonly considered that Antiochus was responsible for the abomination of desolation in Daniel 11, that if Daniel 8 were about Antiochus as well, it should have said abomination of desolation, and not transgression of desolation in Daniel 8?

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Daniel 9:2
In the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, observed in the books the number of the years which was revealed as the word of the Lord to Jeremiah the prophet for the completion of the desolations of Jerusalem, namely, seventy years.

The desolations (plural) of Jerusalem are completed in just seventy years, not thousands of years.

klutedavid said:

Daniel 9:2
In the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, observed in the books the number of the years which was revealed as the word of the Lord to Jeremiah the prophet for the completion of the desolations of Jerusalem, namely, seventy years.

The desolations (plural) of Jerusalem are completed in just seventy years, not thousands of years.

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Agreed, the 70 years desolation of Jerusalem while the land got her sabbaths ended when the Jews were allowed to return from the Babylonian captivity.

The 2000 years the Jews forced into the nations from the first century to the 21st century was due to rejecting Jesus as the King/Messiah. That information is not in the Daniel 9 prophecy.

klutedavid said:

Daniel 9:2
In the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, observed in the books the number of the years which was revealed as the word of the Lord to Jeremiah the prophet for the completion of the desolations of Jerusalem, namely, seventy years.

The desolations (plural) of Jerusalem are completed in just seventy years, not thousands of years.

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Correct: IN CONTEXT, that is the 70th years they were in Babylon, having been carried away as slaves.

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Oseas said:

Douggg, according Revelation 13:v.11-18 that I mentioned in my post, the Beast LIKE a lamb has only and only two horns, and he speaks as a dragon, right? It is the Word of God, not my own words or an opinion.

The expression "LIKE a lamb" reveals not a genuine or a true or an authentic lamb as you are interpreting it, oh no, absolutely not, dear Douggg.

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Oseas, I think what you are getting at is you are connecting having two horns like a lamb to be an indication that the second beast is a messiah figure like Jesus ?

What I was trying to point out is that conclusion is has a flaw (as far as being a messiah) because Jesus, the Lamb of God in Revelation 5:6, obviously Jesus, had 7 horns, in that appearance of Him.

I do believe that that is a connection of the second beast being a copy cat of Jesus in that Jesus is our high priest in heaven - which to me would indicate the second beast is a religious person, like the high priests were. But not religious in the sense of being a messiah, but religious in the sense of beings a (false) prophet.

The prophets in the bible were noted for speaking on behalf of God. The second beast, the false prophet, is speaking on behalf of Satan, i.e. mouthpiece for Satan.

Oseas said:

Satan will manifest himself like a lamb, he will look like a lamb, but he is not a lamb, he is a Devil, Satan himself, he is not an original lamb, but a disguised lamb.

The worse is that you are comparing JESUS with Satan or Satan with JESUS, for the verse you have quoted is about JESUS exclusively, He is the only Lamb who has the 7 spirits of God, the 7 horns, you know that.

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No, I was not comparing Jesus with Satan or the reverse, regarding any kind of identity mix up. I don't know where you came up that conclusion.

Anyway, let's not argue over something I did not do.

Are you saying Satan is the second beast? If so, I respectfully disagree.

Satan's presence on earth, after being cast down from the second heaven in Revelation 12:7-9, will be by incarnating the statue image of the beast. And when Jesus returns, the brightness of His Coming, will in some way cause the image to go up in flames - and expose Satan visibly there on the temple mount that day. Exposing Satan for all to see is one of the things in Ezekiel 28:16-19 regarding Satan's demise.

Marilyn C said:

God`s word says - time of the end, latter time of the indignation, appointed time, & so on right through to Dan. 11 & 12. So it is all about the future for Israel.

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A SOWER OF CONFUSION
Iamlamad has brought here only and only confusion about abomination of desolation, Scripture is not prophesying about sacrifices of animals made in the holy place, be it red heifers, or goats, or pigs, whatever it is, much less is prophesying about demonic sacrifices made by the gentile Antiochus, oh no, absolutely no.

QUESTION
Here's a question: What kind of abomination Scripture is really prophesying?

SACRIFICE OF JESUS - VALIDITY TIME
I'm sure you know that Scriptures say Abomination of desolation is about the holy and daily sacrifice of JESUS that has been valid daily in these last two millenniums, and will be valid even until the END of this current Dispensation of Grace. Yes, it will be valid until the abomination of desolation settles in the holy place, in the temple of God, then the current Dispensation of Grace get to the END.

ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

Actually, the SACRIFICE of JESUS shall be taken away when the MAN of sin, the son of perdition, sits in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God, then the abomination of desolation will stand in the holy place in the second half of the last week by 1260 plus 30 days, would say the current Dispensation of Grace get to the END with this terrible and devilish event, and face of the abomination of the sanctuary.

THE DISPENSATION OF GRACE WILL CEASE
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Then, in fulfilment the Word of God - the Word is God -, the current Dispensation of Grace will cease, for the MYSTERY of iniquity doth already work (2Th.2:v.7), so the sacrificy of JESUS will no longer work as it always worked, it will cease LITERALLY, as is written, only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

Marilyn C said:

`....in the latter time of their kingdom .... a king shall arise....` (Dan. 8: 23) Who is that?

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Good question. Who is this Beast?

Jewish Scriptures say about the latter part of his reign, in my understanding the second part of the last week, when the evildoers/transgressors become as evil as possible-v.23; And the Verse 24 KJV says his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: (He will make an alliance with the Beast of sea having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy.(the Papacy-Rev.13:v.2);
And so on, as is commented below:;

Daniel 8:v. 23 - 26 -
Versions: Complete Jewish Bible and KJV for comparision, verse by verse.

verse 23 Complete Jewish Bible says:
In the latter part of their reign,(second half of the last week-Dan12:12);
when the evildoers/transgressors have become as evil as possible, (Matt.24:v.15-22);
there will arise an arrogant king (arrogant Beast: Revelation 13:11-18);
skilled in intrigue.(understood in guessings-esoteric/kabbalist/spiritist Beast);

Verse 23 - King James Version says:
And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences(understood in guessings), shall stand up.
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Verse 24 KJV
And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: (He will make an alliance with the Beast of sea(the Papacy)-Rev.13:v.2);
he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise-Rev.13:v.15;
and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.(Revelation 13:v.7 and 11:v.7)

Verse 24 - CJB (for comparision)
His power will be great, but not with the power (as) the first king had. He will be amazingly destructive, he will succeed in whatever he does, and he will destroy the mighty and the holy ones
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Verse 25 CJB
25 He will succeed through craftiness and deceit,(Rev.13:v.14)
will become swelled with pride, and destroy many people just when they feel the most secure. (Revelation 13:v.12)
He will even challenge the prince of princes; but, without human intervention, he will be broken.

Verse 25 KJV (for comparision)
And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself(AS GOD) in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.(Dan.2:v.45)

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Verse 26- CJB
The vision of the evenings and mornings which has been told is true; but you are to keep the vision secret, because it is about days in the distant future.”(Mat.24:v.15 & Dan.11:v.31-35 and 12:v.11-12)

Verse 26-KJV - for comparision
And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.

Marilyn , You know:
Two thousand years ago, Paul Apostle wrote to Timothy, saying:
The time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the Truth-the Word of God, and shall be turned unto fables. --> literatures of demons, as is written: Revelation 12:v.15 - And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

Douggg said:

Oseas said: What Satan will do, having two horns like a lamb (Revelation 13:v.11), a false lamb, and speak as a Dragon, a false messiah of the Jews(John 5:v.43), of course, yeah, what he will do it is prophetic and will fulfil LITERALLY, as is written in Revelation 13:v.11-18

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John 5:v.43 - JESUS said to the Jews by the Spirit of prophecy:
43 - I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name him ye will receive (yeah, the Jews will receive AN IMPOSTER, a false messiah of the Jews, they are wating him yet, they are waiting their messiah) him they will receive. Yeah, he will aclaim AN IMPOSTER as their messiah, a pseudo messiah.

Douggg asked:

Douggg said:

Oseas, how many horns does the Lamb have in this verse? Two or seven?

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Douggg said:

Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Jesus was a prophet speaking as God. The false prophet is a anti-prophet speaking on behalf of Satan. An anit-prophet, but not the Anti-christ, Anit-messiah.

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Oseas said: What Satan will do, having two horns like a lamb (Revelation 13:v.11), a false lamb, and speak as a Dragon, a false messiah of the Jews(John 5:v.43), of course, yeah, what he will do it is prophetic and will fulfil LITERALLY, as is written in Revelation 13:v.11-18

Douggg, according Revelation 13:v.11-18 that I mentioned in my post, the Beast LIKE a lamb has only and only two horns, and he speaks as a dragon, right? It is the Word of God, not my own words or an opinion.

The expression "LIKE a lamb" reveals not a genuine or a true or an authentic lamb as you are interpreting it, oh no, absolutely not, dear Douggg.

The expression "LIKE a lamb" must be interpreted as it is similar to a lamb, not a genuine lamb, not a true lamb, or not an authentic and original lamb, but false, disguised, a deceiver lamb evidently. Actually Scriptures is revealing here Satan himself dressed in lambskin. Therefore, a disguised and evil spirit put in your mind that Satan is lamb, so much that you mentioned Apocalpse 5:v.6, so you are comparing JESUS with Satan, for the verse you have quoted above is about JESUS EXCLUSIVELY, He is the only Lamb who has the 7 spirits of God and 7 horns, you know that.

Satan will manifest himself like a lamb, he will look like a lamb, but he is not a lamb, he is a Devil, Satan himself, he is not an original lamb, but a disguised lamb.

The worse is that you are comparing JESUS with Satan or Satan with JESUS, for the verse you have quoted is about JESUS exclusively, He is the only Lamb who has the 7 spirits of God, the 7 horns, you know that.

Douggg said:

The second beast in Revelation 13 is not the false messiah, but the false prophet. The false prophet imitates the miracle of Elijah, but calling fire down from heaven.
Revelation 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

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Douggg, sorry, what you are prophesizing is false, what you are preaching is not true, and will never happen, the Beast like a lamb is not a false prophet, but a false messiah of the Jews, they are waiting his appearance from now on, and he will really manifest himself as a messiah, even as God, and will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

You should study better what your are preaching. If you look well, you will see that does not exist in any place of Scriptures that say a prophet, true or false, is as being a lamb, but a Messiah, of course, as I can prove by / through Scriptures, as follow, Scriptures give not you suport to what you are saying.

Here goes what says Scriptures - Lamb as a Messiah
Isaiah 53:v.7- He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
John 1:v.29 - The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 1:v.36 - And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
1Peter 1:v.19 - But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Revelation 13:v.8 - And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Satan is a former cherub, he is wiser than Daniel, there is no secret that can be hide of him, he knows the Bible perfectly, mainly the Torah. In my view, once I know he is REALLY the false lamb(Rev.13:v.11-18), the false messiah of the Jews, AN IMPOSTER(John 5:v.43), in fact an ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST messiah - the son of perdition, so I may admit that he ACCUMULATES both functions, i.e. messiah (false) and false prophet.

Oseas said:

John 5:v.43 - JESUS said to the Jews by the Spirit of prophecy:
43 - I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name him ye will receive (yeah, the Jews will receive AN IMPOSTER, a false messiah of the Jews, they are wating him yet, they are waiting their messiah) him they will receive. Yeah, he will aclaim AN IMPOSTER as their messiah, a pseudo messiah.

Douggg asked:


Oseas said: What Satan will do, having two horns like a lamb (Revelation 13:v.11), a false lamb, and speak as a Dragon, a false messiah of the Jews(John 5:v.43), of course, yeah, what he will do it is prophetic and will fulfil LITERALLY, as is written in Revelation 13:v.11-18

Douggg, according Revelation 13:v.11-18 that I mentioned in my post, the Beast LIKE a lamb has only and only two horns, and he speaks as a dragon, right? It is the Word of God, not my own words or an opinion.

The expression "LIKE a lamb" reveals not a genuine or a true or an authentic lamb as you are interpreting it, oh no, absolutely not, dear Douggg.

The expression "LIKE a lamb" must be interpreted as it is similar to a lamb, not a genuine lamb, not a true lamb, or not an authentic and original lamb, but false, disguised, a deceiver lamb evidently. Actually Scriptures is revealing here Satan himself dressed in lambskin. Therefore, a disguised and evil spirit put in your mind that Satan is lamb, so much that you mentioned Apocalpse 5:v.6, so you are comparing JESUS with Satan, for the verse you have quoted above is about JESUS EXCLUSIVELY, He is the only Lamb who has the 7 spirits of God and 7 horns, you know that.

Satan will manifest himself like a lamb, he will look like a lamb, but he is not a lamb, he is a Devil, Satan himself, he is not an original lamb, but a disguised lamb.

The worse is that you are comparing JESUS with Satan or Satan with JESUS, for the verse you have quoted is about JESUS exclusively, He is the only Lamb who has the 7 spirits of God, the 7 horns, you know that.



Douggg, sorry, what you are prophesizing is false, what you are preaching is not true, and will never happen, the Beast like a lamb is not a false prophet, but a false messiah of the Jews, they are waiting his appearance from now on, and he will really manifest himself as a messiah, even as God, and will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

You should study better what your are preaching. If you look well, you will see that does not exist in any place of Scriptures that say a prophet, true or false, is as being a lamb, but a Messiah, of course, as I can prove by / through Scriptures, as follow, Scriptures give not you suport to what you are saying.

Here goes what says Scriptures - Lamb as a Messiah
Isaiah 53:v.7- He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
John 1:v.29 - The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 1:v.36 - And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
1Peter 1:v.19 - But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Revelation 13:v.8 - And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Satan is a former cherub, he is wiser than Daniel, there is no secret that can be hide of him, he knows the Bible perfectly, mainly the Torah. In my view, once I know he is REALLY the false lamb(Rev.13:v.11-18), the false messiah of the Jews, AN IMPOSTER(John 5:v.43), in fact an ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST messiah - the son of perdition, so I may admit that he ACCUMULATES both functions, i.e. messiah (false) and false prophet.

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This is where you made something up, that is NOT scripture but pure human imagination.

"a false messiah of the Jews" It is a guess. But many people guess it is the BEAST that will be the false Messiah, not the "false prophet." "False Prophet," by the way, IS scripture.

First off, WHO is worshipped, in scripture, not in human imagination: is it the BEAST or is it the false prophet?

Oseas said:

A SOWER OF CONFUSION
Iamlamad has brought here only and only confusion about abomination of desolation, Scripture is not prophesying about sacrifices of animals made in the holy place, be it red heifers, or goats, or pigs, whatever it is, much less is prophesying about demonic sacrifices made by the gentile Antiochus, oh no, absolutely no.

QUESTION
Here's a question: What kind of abomination Scripture is really prophesying?

SACRIFICE OF JESUS - VALIDITY TIME
I'm sure you know that Scriptures say Abomination of desolation is about the holy and daily sacrifice of JESUS that has been valid daily in these last two millenniums, and will be valid even until the END of this current Dispensation of Grace. Yes, it will be valid until the abomination of desolation settles in the holy place, in the temple of God, then the current Dispensation of Grace get to the END.

ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

Actually, the SACRIFICE of JESUS shall be taken away when the MAN of sin, the son of perdition, sits in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God, then the abomination of desolation will stand in the holy place in the second half of the last week by 1260 plus 30 days, would say the current Dispensation of Grace get to the END with this terrible and devilish event, and face of the abomination of the sanctuary.

THE DISPENSATION OF GRACE WILL CEASE
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Then, in fulfilment the Word of God - the Word is God -, the current Dispensation of Grace will cease, for the MYSTERY of iniquity doth already work (2Th.2:v.7), so the sacrificy of JESUS will no longer work as it always worked, it will cease LITERALLY, as is written, only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

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So sorry to pop your balloon, so to speak, but 99.9999999999% of believers believe what is taken away is the power restraining the man of sin to prevent him from being revealed (AS THE BEAST) until the proper time. WHY do most believers believe this? Because they understand verses 6,7 & 8 from 2 Thes. 2. These three verses tell us that the man of sin CANNOT be revealed until the power restraining him is "taken out of the way."

Question: since you lambaste others so frequently here, as if you have all the answers, I wonder, do you know WHO or WHAT in restraining the man of sin, holding him back from being revealed before the time? You should, because Paul wrote, "and now you know what is restraining....."

the sacrificy of JESUS will no longer work This is nothing but human imagination. It is good to know scripture, but it is far better to UNDERSTAND it. Have you never heard or sang the powerful song, "the Blood will NEVER lose its power?" It is TRUTH: it is almost sacrilege to believe that Satan has the ability to take away the power of the blood of Jesus Christ!

the current Dispensation of Grace will cease This is truth, but it will happen at the pretrib rapture, and no other place. the Age of Grace, will become the Day of the Lord a moment after the rapture.

Abomination of desolation is about the holy and daily sacrifice of JESUS No, WRONG again. The abomination will stop the daily sacrifices of SHEEP or LAMBS. They did this for centuries while the temple stood. I do hope this poster gains some understanding.

A SOWER OF CONFUSION
Iamlamad has brought here only and only confusion about abomination of desolation, Scripture is not prophesying about sacrifices of animals made in the holy place, be it red heifers, or goats, or pigs, whatever it is, much less is prophesying about demonic sacrifices made by the gentile Antiochus, oh no, absolutely no.
So far, you have been the one to post human imagination along with scripture. The scripture is fine, but what you say about it is not the intent of the Author. It is human imagination. Case in point: what is "taken out of the way."

The truth is, you think things are "confusion" simply because you have a lack of understanding of the truth of scripture.
Case in point: you did not seem to know what the daily sacrifices are or were and will be again.

Exo 29:
38 Now this is that which thou shalt offer upon the altar; two lambs of the first year day by day continually.
39 The one lamb thou shalt offer in the morning; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at even:

My friend, learn the scriptures!

iamlamad said:

This is where you made something up, that is NOT scripture but pure human imagination.
"a false messiah of the Jews" It is a guess. But many people guess it is the BEAST that will be the false Messiah, not the "false prophet." "False Prophet," by the way, IS scripture.
First off, WHO is worshipped, in scripture, not in human imagination: is it the BEAST or is it the false prophet?

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John 5:v.43 - JESUS said to the Jews by the Spirit of prophecy:
43 - I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name him ye will receive (yeah, the Jews will receive AN IMPOSTER, a false messiah of the Jews, they are wating him yet, they are waiting their peculiar messiah, him they will receive - NOT JESUS. Yeah, he will aclaim AN IMPOSTOR as their messiah, a pseudo messiah, in fact an ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST messiah - the son of perdition,, .

To interpret and understand what JESUS said in the verse above, first of all it is necessary to have the Spirit of Christ. The testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. Revelation 19:v.10

What you have written in your post is tares, it is chaff, and denying what JESUS said, it you have learned from demons, you believe in spirit of demons, actually it is a theory inspired by the spirit of lie, spirit of false prophet, it will be burned with everlasting fire.

You can blaspheme as much as you want, but what I am writting is for to help you be free of the pitfalls and cunning of Devil.

iamlamad said:

So sorry to pop your balloon, so to speak, but 99.9999999999% of believers believe what is taken away is the power restraining the man of sin to prevent him from being revealed (AS THE BEAST) until the proper time. WHY do most believers believe this? Because they understand verses 6,7 & 8 from 2 Thes. 2. These three verses tell us that the man of sin CANNOT be revealed until the power restraining him is "taken out of the way."

Question: since you lambaste others so frequently here, as if you have all the answers, I wonder, do you know WHO or WHAT in restraining the man of sin, holding him back from being revealed before the time? You should, because Paul wrote, "and now you know what is restraining....."

the sacrificy of JESUS will no longer work This is nothing but human imagination. It is good to know scripture, but it is far better to UNDERSTAND it. Have you never heard or sang the powerful song, "the Blood will NEVER lose its power?" It is TRUTH: it is almost sacrilege to believe that Satan has the ability to take away the power of the blood of Jesus Christ!

the current Dispensation of Grace will cease This is truth, but it will happen at the pretrib rapture, and no other place. the Age of Grace, will become the Day of the Lord a moment after the rapture.

Abomination of desolation is about the holy and daily sacrifice of JESUS No, WRONG again. The abomination will stop the daily sacrifices of SHEEP or LAMBS. They did this for centuries while the temple stood. I do hope this poster gains some understanding.

A SOWER OF CONFUSION
Iamlamad has brought here only and only confusion about abomination of desolation, Scripture is not prophesying about sacrifices of animals made in the holy place, be it red heifers, or goats, or pigs, whatever it is, much less is prophesying about demonic sacrifices made by the gentile Antiochus, oh no, absolutely no.
So far, you have been the one to post human imagination along with scripture. The scripture is fine, but what you say about it is not the intent of the Author. It is human imagination. Case in point: what is "taken out of the way."

The truth is, you think things are "confusion" simply because you have a lack of understanding of the truth of scripture.
Case in point: you did not seem to know what the daily sacrifices are or were and will be again.

Exo 29:
38 Now this is that which thou shalt offer upon the altar; two lambs of the first year day by day continually.
39 The one lamb thou shalt offer in the morning; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at even:

My friend, learn the scriptures!

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What you are preaching have nothing to do with the Word of God. The Word is God.

THE DAY SACRIFICE WILL BE TAKE AWAY BY THE JEWISH FALSE MESSIAH - THE BEAST LIKE A LAMB (Revelation 13:v.11-18 combined with John 5:v.43)- THEN THE PLACE OF THE SANCTUARY WILL BE CAST DOWN, as was prophesied by Daniel.

Dan.7:v.7- ...and behold a fourth Beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the Beasts that were before it; and it had (10) ten horns. 8 - I considered the (10)horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn,...and, behold, in this (little) horn were eyes like the eyes of MAN, and a mouth speaking great things.

Daniel 8:v.11 says: -
11 Yea, he (the little horn, by his mouth) magnified himself (magnified as God) even to the prince of the host(it is Michael-Revelation 12:v.7 and Joshua 5:v.12-15), and by him (by the Jewish false messiah-the little horn) the daily sacrifice was (will be) taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was (will be) cast down.


The false lamb, the false messiah(John 5:v.43), he is also a Jewish MAN, and he is from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, it may be from the tribe of Dan as prophesied Jacob-Genesis:49: v.16-17. The false messiah (John 5:v.43) will rise up from the earth-from Israel-exactly from one of the (10) ten tribes of Israel - HE IS THE LITTLE HORN).
The false lamb, the false messiah-John 5:v.43- has two horns. Two horns represent the two kingdoms of Israel, but he will rise up from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, as prophesied Jacob. Gen.49:v.16-17

Oseas said:

John 5:v.43 - JESUS said to the Jews by the Spirit of prophecy:
43 - I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name him ye will receive (yeah, the Jews will receive AN IMPOSTER, a false messiah of the Jews, they are wating him yet, they are waiting their peculiar messiah, him they will receive - NOT JESUS. Yeah, he will aclaim AN IMPOSTOR as their messiah, a pseudo messiah, in fact an ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST messiah - the son of perdition,, .

To interpret and understand what JESUS said in the verse above, first of all it is necessary to have the Spirit of Christ. The testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. Revelation 19:v.10

What you have written in your post is tares, it is chaff, and denying what JESUS said, it you have learned from demons, you believe in spirit of demons, actually it is a theory inspired by the spirit of lie, spirit of false prophet, it will be burned with everlasting fire.

You can blaspheme as much as you want, but what I am writting is for to help you be free of the pitfalls and cunning of Devil.

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You can rant and rave and not answer the question all you want. I won't turn you in. If the truth be told, you should know better than to lambaste fellow believers.

Look: this is so simple: you have two choices: either the Beast is the false messiah, as 99% of the church believes, or the False Prophet is the false Messiah. Scripture does not tell us. You said, "son of perdition." Again, most of the church believes that is the Beast, not the FP.

You are free to choose either one. AGain I will ask you WHICH ONE Is worshiped? Is it the Beast that is worshiped as God, or is it the FP that is worshiped? Since you failed to answer, I will assist:

Rev, 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Now, I will ask again, WHICH one, the Beast or the FP is the one being worshiped? (it will be the one who will claim he is God - i.e. the false messiah.)

Oseas said:

What you are preaching have nothing to do with the Word of God. The Word is God.

THE DAY SACRIFICE WILL BE TAKE AWAY BY THE JEWISH FALSE MESSIAH - THE BEAST LIKE A LAMB (Revelation 13:v.11-18 combined with John 5:v.43)- THEN THE PLACE OF THE SANCTUARY WILL BE CAST DOWN, as was prophesied by Daniel.

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Sorry, but you are mistaken again. There is NOTHING in Rev. 13:11-18 about the daily sacrifices taken away. Neither is there anything in John 5 about that. YOU said that meant that JESUS sacrifice was taken away. You said it - now back it up with scripture. If you cannot, then it is only human imagination. Plain and simple.

Here is a quote from your post:
"Actually, the SACRIFICE of JESUS shall be taken away when the MAN of sin, the son of perdition, sits in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God, then the abomination of desolation will stand in the holy place... "

I said it is not the sacrifice of Jesus that is "taken out of the way. It is the restrainer - the one holding back the man of sin so he will be revealed at the proper time. You say this has "nothing to do with the word of God." I beg to differ. It is YOU who are mistaken, not me.
The verse you are referencing:

2 Thes. 2:
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth [restrains - holds back] that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [restrains or holds back] will let [will continue to restrain or hold back] , until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Notice verse 6: Paul wrote, "and NOW YOU HOW" Other translations have:

And now ye know that which restraineth
And you know what restrains him now [from being revealed]
And you know what currently restrains him
You already know what is holding this wicked one back
And you know what is stopping that Man of Evil now

So I asked you: since Paul said you now know, SHOW US YOU KNOW: tell us WHO or WHAT is the restraining power?

You choose to lambaste all other posters: here is a chance to show to all why your thinking is superior: tell us, WHO or WHAT is this restraining power?

Next, tell us all again, WHAT is this "sacrifice and offering" that is stopped?

CEB
For one week, he will make a strong covenant with many people. For a half-week, he will stop both sacrifices and offerings. In their place will be the desolating monstrosities until the decreed destruction sweeps over the devastator.”

Dan. 8:11
Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.

Dan. 12:11
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Oseas said:

Douggg, sorry, what you are prophesizing is false, what you are preaching is not true, and will never happen, the Beast like a lamb is not a false prophet, but a false messiah of the Jews,

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Oseas, the second beast, the one with the two horns like a lamb, does miracles with the first beast is present.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Let's focus on that he will do miracles in the sight of the first beast. Now go to Revelation 19.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Oseas, that's how we know that the second beast, the one with the two little horns like a lamb, is the false prophet. And not a messiah to the Jews.

You are right though that there will be a false messiah to the Jews, coming. And the Jews are looking for someone descended from king David to be the King of Israel, messiah.

That person will be the little horn coming from the EU. And following Gog/Magog, the Jews will think is their messiah, and he will be anointed the King of Israel, making him the Antichrist at that point.

That fandango goes on for around 3 years, before he betrays them, and claims to be God. Which the Jew reject him from continuing as their king, ending his time as the Antichrist.

Revealed to be the man of sin, God has the person killed for his audacious claim. And in disdain for the person brings him back to life after a few days, and it is then the person becomes the first beast in Revelation 13, for the last 42 months of the 7 years.

iamlamad said:

You can rant and rave and not answer the question all you want. I won't turn you in. If the truth be told, you should know better than to lambaste fellow believers.

Look: this is so simple: you have two choices: either the Beast is the false messiah, as 99% of the church believes, or the False Prophet is the false Messiah. Scripture does not tell us. You said, "son of perdition." Again, most of the church believes that is the Beast, not the FP.

You are free to choose either one. AGain I will ask you WHICH ONE Is worshiped? Is it the Beast that is worshiped as God, or is it the FP that is worshiped? Since you failed to answer, I will assist:

Rev, 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Now, I will ask again, WHICH one, the Beast or the FP is the one being worshiped? (it will be the one who will claim he is God - i.e. the false messiah.)

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Satan and the False Prophet. The antichrist is the image, that Satan "breaths" life into. God created man in His image. Satan will create his own "messiah". It will be in the image of the false prophet, but will not be human. The beast of the sea, the beast out of the earth (the pit), and this image are the only 3 beings referenced in Revelation 13. They are the FP, the dragon, and the beast referenced in Revelation 16. The FP and the beast (the image) get thrown into the lake of fire in Revelation 19. Yes the parenthesis is added, but can only be the logical being found in all 3 passages known as Satan's fake trinity. John never reinforces this modern day theory of an AC appearing on earth at a critical time. John is the one who said many antichrist will arise throughout history. He is silent during the last days about an Antichrist. Why? There is no last day Antichrist. There is an image that comes to life though. It is not human. It also comes after the FP and Satan are already known.

iamlamad said:

You can rant and rave and not answer the question all you want. I won't turn you in. If the truth be told, you should know better than to lambaste fellow believers.

Look: this is so simple: you have two choices: either the Beast is the false messiah, as 99% of the church believes, or the False Prophet is the false Messiah. Scripture does not tell us. You said, "son of perdition." Again, most of the church believes that is the Beast, not the FP.

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iamlamad said:

You are free to choose either one. AGain I will ask you WHICH ONE Is worshiped? Is it the Beast that is worshiped as God, or is it the FP that is worshiped? Since you failed to answer, I will assist:

Rev, 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Now, I will ask again, WHICH one, the Beast or the FP is the one being worshiped? (it will be the one who will claim he is God - i.e. the false messiah.)

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In my post above you are replying, the Word of God says:
Dan.7:v.7- ...and behold a fourth Beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the Beasts that were before it; and it had (10) ten horns. 8 - I considered the (10)horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn,...and, behold, in this (little) horn were eyes like the eyes of MAN, and a mouth speaking great things.

Daniel 8:v.11 says: -
11 Yea, he (the little horn, by his mouth) magnified himself (magnified as God) even to the prince of the host(it is Michael-Revelation 12:v.7 and Joshua 5:v.12-15), and by him - by the Jewish false messiah-the little horn - the DAILY SACRIFICE WILL BE TAKEN AWAY, and the place of the sanctuary will be cast down.

The false lamb, the false messiah(John 5:v.43), a Jewish MAN, from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, certainly from the tribe of Dan as prophesied Jacob-Genesis:49: v.16-17. Yeah, the false messiah (John 5:v.43) will rise up from the earth-from Israel-exactly from one of the (10) ten tribes of Israel - it IN THE DAYS AHEAD. HE IS THE LITTLE HORN, he is the LAMB OF THE EARTH, the false lamb, the false messiah-John 5:v.43- AN IMPOSTOR - and he has two horns. Two horns represent the two kingdoms of Israel, but he will rise up from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, as prophesied Jacob. Gen.49:v.16-17

The daily sacrifice WILL BE TAKE AWAY BY THE JEWISH FALSE MESSIAH - THE BEAST LIKE A LAMB, whose MAN speaks as Dragon, a false lamb, evidently (Revelation 13:v.11-18 combined with John 5:v.43)- THEN THE PLACE OF THE SANCTUARY WILL BE CAST DOWN, as was prophesied by Daniel. The holy place will be holy NO MORE, NO MORE, but SATANIC, an ABOMINABLE PLACE, the place of the throne of Satan , the place where he will be enthroned, starting the abomination of desolation for 1260 days plus 30 days, that is the second half of the lasst week. THIS IS WHAT MATTERS, the TRUTH.

Deuteronomy 18:v.20 - Thus says the Lord by His Word:
The prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak ... even that prophet shall die.

iamlamad said:

You can rant and rave and not answer the question all you want. I won't turn you in. If the truth be told, you should know better than to lambaste fellow believers.

Look: this is so simple: you have two choices: either the Beast is the false messiah, as 99% of the church believes, or the False Prophet is the false Messiah. Scripture does not tell us. You said, "son of perdition." Again, most of the church believes that is the Beast, not the FP.

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There is only and only one Truth: The Word of God. Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. The Spirit of Truth does not enter in your heart because what you have learned from demons, I mean, you learned from spirits of lies, and it has blinded and tied you in the blackness of the darkness.

Resisting the lying spirit does not mean disrespecting any brother, to be sure, but fighting the evil spirits of apocalyptic frogs which circulate among the people of God, Gentile or Jewish. I have not to fight against flesh and blood as you try to surreptitiously to imput, but against the messengers of the red Dragon, the ruler of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places where the God's people are sat and lives spiritually(Ephesians 1:v.3 and Philippians 3:v.20-21), for they were born again of the water-that is the Word- and of the Spirit-who is the Word-is God-God is Spirit.

Speaking of revelations: Revelation 17:v.15 says:- And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. Now, now, the apocalyptical frogs - Revelation 16:v.13-16 - infested these waters through the Beast of sea, the Papacy and his Great harlot, that is the RCC- which rides upon the Beast of sea since ancient times(check it out in Revelation 17:v.3). And the frogs infested also the earth-Israel-the DRY LAND-by the way, in the nature, frog is a small animal that lives both on land and in water, this detail is very important.

You work with speculations, and suppositions, and conjectures, guessing, presumptions, and counterfeit of Scriptures, these things for you are simple and you do them, for your own condemnation. All your questions and comments are based in interpretations you have learned from demons, you have learned from spirits like frog which have infested the waters and the earth-the dry land. But what matters is THE WORD OF GOD.

Deuteronomy 18:v.20 - Thus says the Lord by His Word:
The prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak ... even that prophet shall die.