Trump struggles to breathe while trying to put on a strong face

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From reading your posts for the past few years, I would say that is impossible for you to even consider.
You are correct. I cannot consider Donald Trump for President. He has been lying, cheating and stealing his entire adult life and cannot be expected to change now.
 
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Nothing for a Never Trumper.
So, it then becomes what does a lying, incompetent, failed businessman, who's been charged with (and had to settle) multiple cases of fraud, who has been credibly accused of sexual misconduct and rape by dozens of women, who bragged publically about walking in on naked 15 year old girls and bragged about groping women, who has a lifetimes worth of business related lawsuits about him stiffing small businesses, contractors and investors, etc. bring to the table for a forever trumper?
 
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Nothing for a Never Trumper.
In case you and the President were unaware, "Never Trumpers" are Americans as well. And we all have a stake in the healthcare system and any other issue. If he has nothing for me, he has nothing for anyone else.
 
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In case you and the President were unaware, "Never Trumpers" are Americans as well. And we all have a stake in the healthcare system and any other issue. If he has nothing for me, he has nothing for anyone else.

I don't recall saying the never Trumpers were not Americans as you suggest.

It's a matter of your opinion on healthcare that we other Americans disagree with.
 
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I was just remembering past presidents too.

Obama was criticized a lot, as you know.

Bush was a lot, too. (remember?)

Clinton was a lot. (remember?)

Bush sr. was.

Reagan was a lot.

Carter was a lot (very much, I was one of the sharp critics!)

Ford was a lot (a lot of jokes at his expense)

Nixon was a lot.

Johnson was a lot.

Kennedy was (and hated, as I heard from older generations relating to me years later how Kennedy was going to sell us down the drain and was 'socialist' etc., etc. (he was in fact as you can learn far more liberal than Biden actually).

Yep so I'm told, however, I'm surprised if even the left cant see it is unprecedented how Trump is criticized.
 
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This man is plainly struggling to breathe.

His shoulders rise and fall very fast. His brows are pinched together. He is opening and closing his mouth. He is clearly having trouble.

Donald is hopped up on roids and making some bad decisions. I know a doctor and they said they don't let patients sign forms on dexamethasone let alone sign themselves out of the hospital.


Rumor-monger much?

He's recovering from Covid. Is anyone shocked if he's breathing heavily?

"I know a doctor and they said..." Oh, boy. The pinnacle of credible sources, right there.

Nobody is prevented from signing forms or making decisions when they're taking a steroid for breathing problems. I've been on prednisone many times myself.

How is it NOT against the forum rules to throw around medical diagnoses??
 
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Yep so I'm told, however, I'm surprised if even the left cant see it is unprecedented how Trump is criticized.
Trump is much more news dominating -- making more provocative statements day after day than other presidents did.

He did this back in the 1990s also, as I saw myself back then. A way to get on the news and stay on the news.

I was surprised in the 1990s over and over that Trump was on the news yet again (for the umpteenth time). I visited New York City many times, for weeks at a time, and Trump would be on the local news days on end, continuously. It was remarkable.

Whoever is provoking the most attention, over and over, is of course the person that will get the most reaction.

If he had a way to do that without the provocations, then he'd be less criticized than he is.

You know how it is when anyone is an attention hog -- doing most of the talking most of the time? Interrupting others, talking over them, etc.? People do get tired of that.
 
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Rumor-monger much?

He's recovering from Covid. Is anyone shocked if he's breathing heavily?

Pick: Am I rumor mongering or is he actually breathing heavily?

You have to pick an argument. Both is not an option. You can't accuse me of spreading rumors and then in the very next sentence assume into existence what I'm supposedly wrong about.

How is it NOT against the forum rules to throw around medical diagnoses??

Where did I do that?
 
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Trump is much more news dominating -- making more provocative statements day after day than other presidents did.

He did this back in the 1990s also, as I saw myself back then. A way to get on the news and stay on the news.

I was surprised in the 1990s over and over that Trump was on the news yet again (for the umpteenth time). I visited New York City many times, for weeks at a time, and Trump would be on the local news days on end, continuously. It was remarkable.

Whoever is provoking the most attention, over and over, is of course the person that will get the most reaction.

If he had a way to do that without the provocations, then he'd be less criticized than he is.

You know how it is when anyone is an attention hog -- doing most of the talking most of the time? Interrupting others, talking over them, etc.? People do get tired of that.

Maybe you missed my point, give the man a break.
 
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For the last time... COVID is not the flu.

Trump is manic on dexamethasone, a known side effect of steroid drugs. Of course he feels like he's 20 years younger. He's as high as a kite.
depends some people have it very mildly., and some (few comparetively die.) I am not comparing the numbers to the flu but to the total number of cases.
 
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If the dictator falls, maybe you can get that check from the government and won't have to work at all.
that does not work. Everyone cannot live off the government.
 
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Even Trump is pro-stimulus check. He just wants to give you less, and expose you to the deadly virus more. That’s the Republican way. Die for the rich.
The death rate is actually DROPPING.
 
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20 million gained health care coverage under Obamacare.

I'd call that a win. I'm sure the newly insured would too ...
I do not know speaking with my mother ( who gets it off the marketplace it is CHEAPER not to have insurance. I know that that is one person, but going off that experience no not really.
 
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Maybe you missed my point, give the man a break.
lol. I've given him endless breaks. If he was my neighbor, I'd eagerly invite him over for a cookout and try hard to befriend him, and help him know he has friends and love, and it would not be (I think!) even hard work, since I already love him.

Break after break.

But of course that doesn't make him my first choice for the duties of federal executive though.
 
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