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Sometimes that is a confusing part of theology too. That Christ is everything for us, and while it's very easy to see how God can PROVIDE those things for us, it is less easy to see how He can BE those things for us. We're not going to be eating Jesus, and though we're called the bride of Christ we're not going to be cuddling up to Him like a spouse or having sex with Him... and so it comes to how does something like that manifest.. and it comes to a point in theology that I call the "eternal staring contest with Jesus" Christians.. the people who just think that just staring at Jesus fulfills all desires.
I guess I know what you mean. It's hard from our present point of view to get an idea of the specifics. I don't try very often anymore, but from other studies have gotten surprised from time to time at hints concerning some of the specifics.
 
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1 Corinthians 2:9 ESV But as it is written, “What no eye has seen, no ear has ears, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.”

I can’t answer your exact question on the need or usefulness of structures in heaven. But why not? It’s God’s domain and He is great. It is super fun to think about.

I suppose but at the same time I just don't see myself spending a lot of time in a home by myself when I don't have to be, especially not after this year, haven't we all spent enough time cooped up inside by ourselves (and again, it is by ourselves since they'd all be bachelor pads)
 
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John 14:2

Now I realize in other translations they translate it as "many rooms" or "many abodes" but typically when people think of heaven the "many mansions" illustration gets used, and it is even used as "something to look forward to" in heaven/new earth. But to me, it has never really mattered, desiring material wealth was something I grew out of a long time ago. But I've been thinking about it, and I realize, I don't even know if there's really a point to a "mansion" in heaven. We won't need sleep, so who needs a bedroom, as far as we know we're going to be eating fruit off the tree of life, so won't really need a kitchen... everyone's going to be single and not have any children, so you wouldn't need any extra rooms for extra people.. just a bunch of bachelor pads... if you'd even need one of those for any purpose as you wouldn't need shelter from the elements.. so what would be the point? Even in Isaiah there's imagery of people building houses... for what?

I tried to find references to that word around the time of Jesus to find how other Greeks used it. Everything I tried searching for just ended up about pages about that passage or Strong's interpretation of it instead of what I was looking for. I narrowed the search to Aristotle and got: "It is now clear, then, that there are only these three kinds of motion." Somehow the word used in the bible fits in there somewhere. I'm perplexed.
 
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I tried to find references to that word around the time of Jesus to find how other Greeks used it. Everything I tried searching for just ended up about pages about that passage or Strong's interpretation of it instead of what I was looking for. I narrowed the search to Aristotle and got: "It is now clear, then, that there are only these three kinds of motion." Somehow the word used in the bible fits in there somewhere. I'm perplexed.
You mean the word that is translated as mansion/abode/room?
 
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You mean the word that is translated as mansion/abode/room?

Yeah. My guess it has something to do with Aristotle's usage of 'kinds'? Which could imply something like 'rooms of motion'. Definitely a lot more complex than the way it is translated in the bible. But keep in mind Aristotle was still 300 years before the new testament was written and ancient Greek philosophers almost seemed to pride themselves on obscurity.
 
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Yeah. My guess it has something to do with Aristotle's usage of 'kinds'? But keep in mind Aristotle was still 300 years before the new testament was written and ancient Greek philosophers almost seemed to pride themselves on obscurity.
why would anything in that aristotle reference be used as a word for mansions/abodes? Very weird
 
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John 14:2

Now I realize in other translations they translate it as "many rooms" or "many abodes" but typically when people think of heaven the "many mansions" illustration gets used, and it is even used as "something to look forward to" in heaven/new earth. But to me, it has never really mattered, desiring material wealth was something I grew out of a long time ago. But I've been thinking about it, and I realize, I don't even know if there's really a point to a "mansion" in heaven. We won't need sleep, so who needs a bedroom, as far as we know we're going to be eating fruit off the tree of life, so won't really need a kitchen... everyone's going to be single and not have any children, so you wouldn't need any extra rooms for extra people.. just a bunch of bachelor pads... if you'd even need one of those for any purpose as you wouldn't need shelter from the elements.. so what would be the point? Even in Isaiah there's imagery of people building houses... for what?

“For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.” (Romans 8:18).

“For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.” (1 Corinthians 13:12).

I imagine that while you may not see a purpose for a mansion in Heaven, it definitely makes a little more sense that they would exist in the New Earth after believers are given a new physical flesh and blood body and the New Jerusalem comes down from out of Heaven. I see families to most likely grow and resume on the New Earth.

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I believe Christians who die today go to Abraham's bosom in the heart of the Earth. When the Rapture happens, then believers who die faithfully to the Lord from that point on will go directly to Heaven. After the Millennium, and the Judgment, believers in the Rapture will be resurrected bodily, and the New Jerusalem will come down from out of Heaven; Believers will live on the New Earth and worship the Lord for all eternity.
 
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John 14:2

Now I realize in other translations they translate it as "many rooms" or "many abodes" but typically when people think of heaven the "many mansions" illustration gets used, and it is even used as "something to look forward to" in heaven/new earth. But to me, it has never really mattered, desiring material wealth was something I grew out of a long time ago. But I've been thinking about it, and I realize, I don't even know if there's really a point to a "mansion" in heaven. We won't need sleep, so who needs a bedroom, as far as we know we're going to be eating fruit off the tree of life, so won't really need a kitchen... everyone's going to be single and not have any children, so you wouldn't need any extra rooms for extra people.. just a bunch of bachelor pads... if you'd even need one of those for any purpose as you wouldn't need shelter from the elements.. so what would be the point? Even in Isaiah there's imagery of people building houses... for what?

It is picture of an inward truth no different then the process of a tree that all the fowl of the air find their rest in.
 
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“For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.” (Romans 8:18).

“For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.” (1 Corinthians 13:12).

I imagine that while you may not see a purpose for a mansion in Heaven, it definitely makes a little more sense that they would exist in the New Earth after believers are given a new physical flesh and blood body and the New Jerusalem comes down from out of Heaven. I see families to most likely grow and resume on the New Earth.

Side Note:

I believe Christians who die today go to Abraham's bosom in the heart of the Earth. When the Rapture happens, then believers who die faithfully to the Lord from that point on will go directly to Heaven. After the Millennium, and the Judgment, believers in the Rapture will be resurrected bodily, and the New Jerusalem will come down from out of Heaven; Believers will live on the New Earth and worship the Lord for all eternity.

Yeah I'm aware that it's a physical body, but, I've always been told it won't need to sleep, and would God make it uncomfortably cold or hot on the new earth to where you'd need shelter?
as for families growing, I thought no marriage meant no procreation.
 
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I'd like to say thanks.. love reading about this stuff.. how others see/picture it. Ever see an old run down house? Thats us right now. Sin has put death on everything. So you look through those muddy, grim windows that here can never be cleaned. I did have a picture here but.. to show the flip side as would be in heaven...yeah don't have that one lol.

The streets are made of what? Everything you've ever wanted He will give. He knows you would spend eternity just praising and thanking Him..He knows your heart. Hes been longing to see us more then we have Him. In the story the one son got a ring a robe, party.. the father? The father RAN to the son. What would you do if you were that father? Now amp it up with a GOD!

I know this is about homes.. for a second. I watched this video of this preacher haha well the way he preachers I don't care for but he had this vision. I take with a grain of salt but.. I liked it. He said in this vision God was on His throne... you could not see His face and there were many around Him. Said as he walked in God said shhhhh my son has come to talk with me. He said it was something to do with how God treats all of us. Do you really think GOD stops everything to so speak to hear you :) Hard to grasp we are that important huh :) Sorry not good with words.

I expect if you like living up in the MTN.. thats where you will be. Remember everything your Father makes is life. Who else in all of creation can has the right to call this GOD Father..
 
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I'd like to say thanks.. love reading about this stuff.. how others see/picture it. Ever see an old run down house? Thats us right now. Sin has put death on everything. So you look through those muddy, grim windows that here can never be cleaned. I did have a picture here but.. to show the flip side as would be in heaven...yeah don't have that one lol.

The streets are made of what? Everything you've ever wanted He will give. He knows you would spend eternity just praising and thanking Him..He knows your heart. Hes been longing to see us more then we have Him. In the story the one son got a ring a robe, party.. the father? The father RAN to the son. What would you do if you were that father? Now amp it up with a GOD!

I know this is about homes.. for a second. I watched this video of this preacher haha well the way he preachers I don't care for but he had this vision. I take with a grain of salt but.. I liked it. He said in this vision God was on His throne... you could not see His face and there were many around Him. Said as he walked in God said shhhhh my son has come to talk with me. He said it was something to do with how God treats all of us. Do you really think GOD stops everything to so speak to hear you :) Hard to grasp we are that important huh :) Sorry not good with words.

I expect if you like living up in the MTN.. thats where you will be. Remember everything your Father makes is life. Who else in all of creation can has the right to call this GOD Father..

Well, except for the things He said won't be there.
If you wish you lived with your wife and children in a home on the beach, well...
 
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Yeah I'm aware that it's a physical body, but, I've always been told it won't need to sleep,

It's very possible, but Scripture does not say.

and would God make it uncomfortably cold or hot on the new earth to where you'd need shelter?

We stay in our homes even when the day is really nice outside. Sometimes we want privacy or place to call our own that we can relax in. Not sure if you ever owned a home before, but if you did, you would know the value of relaxing inside the home vs. relaxing outside. Maybe one does not want to be disturbed and they want to study God's Word or pray in private. To assume we will have no privacy from other believers is a large assumption that the Scripture does not make. The fact that the Bible says that we have mansions means we will have mansions (Which most likely means some level or privacy from others). It may not seem good to you, but it is written:

“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.” (Hebrews 11:6).

You said:
as for families growing, I thought no marriage meant no procreation.

There is no marriage in Heaven because one will be like the angels in Heaven; But in the New Earth, they will be resurrected after the likeness of Christ. Jesus even alluded to the two different resurrections when He spoke to the Sadducees.

29 “Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
” (Matthew 22:29-32).​

The words in red above is in reference to the resurrection of receiving a spiritual body like that of angels (Whereby there is no marriage). The words in blue above is in reference to the flesh and blood body resurrection that takes place in two phases (i.e. One in the Millennium, and the other for the New Earth after the Millennium and the Judgment). Seeing we will be in a different location like on Earth, and we will have flesh and blood bodies again, logic dictates that we could very well marry and have families there.
 
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It's very possible, but Scripture does not say.



We stay in our homes even when the day is really nice outside. Sometimes we want privacy or place to call our own that we can relax in. Not sure if you ever owned a home before, but if you did, you would know the value of relaxing inside the home vs. relaxing outside. Maybe one does not want to be disturbed and they want to study God's Word or pray in private. To assume we will have no privacy from other believers is a large assumption that the Scripture does not make. The fact that the Bible says that we have mansions means we will have mansions (Which most likely means some level or privacy from others). It may seem good to you, but it is written:

“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.” (Hebrews 11:6).
Well, privacy, will we have privacy? I thought part of the tradeoff of there not being marriage was that relationships with EVERYONE would be very intimate, beyond marriage intimacy (that's always the advertisement for how the tradeoff is "better"). Personally, I've thought it's a little bit of a copout, that people say that we'll be "more intimate" even when there is no marriage and no sex, which is as intimate as you can get in this life, to be one flesh, live together, and be a constant companion together, where there (at least shouldn't be) any secrets kept from each other (well outside of maybe keeping secret a present you want to give them), nor really any privacy, they would know everything about you ideally. If relationships in heaven, between everyone, are truly "more intimate" then that'd basically mean no privacy, maybe even to the point of reading minds. Because boy oh boy do people love to claim it'll be more intimate, I say "handshakes and side hugs are not more intimate than sex, they're gestures deliberately designed to limit intimacy" and people say "well we'll be SPIRITUALLY intimate" and I often wonder if they truly know that they want that between each and every person, to know every thought they've had, to delve into their darkest memories and even know of all their sins. Think about this, if it were not sin to have sex with anyone, and there were no disease, and you didn't have to worry about pregnancy, would you just up and have sex with anyone and everyone? Probably not, sexual intimacy is putting yourself in a vulnerable place with someone, we all have limitations on how close we want to be with other people, and that is how God designed it, promiscuity may be promoted to the world today as people make sex to be nothing but a cheap physical thrill, blaspheming what God originally made it to be, but ideally, it brings you to a closeness with someone that takes down all your walls and exposes yourself to that other person, it should only happen with a great amount of trust in that person.
Now if you wouldn't want to be sexually intimate with every single Christian you encountered, would you really want to be spiritually intimate with them beyond a level of sexual intimacy, where you don't just know their body, but you know their spirit, their innermost thoughts, their memories, with no barriers between you, would you really want to have the memory of a Christian who'd been sexually abused as a child as if it were your own memory? Would you really want to know every thought that a former pedophile had before they found Christ? Our own sins are darkness enough than to have to experience what Jesus has experienced in knowing the sins of everyone ever born on earth. So unless we have no memories of what happened on earth while we were alive, some things I think would be best not knowing about other people, and best not shared with others, but kept between Jesus and ourselves, to which we can only say "Thank you for forgiving me for that and for taking my punishment for me, I'm sorry that I did it and caused the one I love most pain He did not deserve"
So.. yeah, I suppose at least from my point of view now, on this earth, in this body, I can see a need for privacy. But in many Christian's theology, there will not be any room for privacy, and I wonder if they themselves realize this.
That said.. do you really think we'll still be reading the bible in eternity when we have Jesus present with us living among us to receive His word directly from Him rather than reading a book that was put pen to paper by human authors (so second hand, yes it's Inspired but just like there are differences between the 3 synoptic gospels, each human being has their own way of using language and in some cases people can interpret things differently, the 3 synoptic gospels don't always quote Jesus word for word), and then translated, and then translated from that translation..... why not just hear from God directly? Not to mention there will be new things that God will say, rather than just the same story we've already read and at that time may already be fulfilled. On the same note, will we pray when we will be able to just... talk with God?

There is no marriage in Heaven because one will be like the angels in Heaven; But in the New Earth, they will be resurrected after the likeness of Christ. Jesus even alluded to the two different resurrections when He spoke to the Sadducees.

29 “Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
” (Matthew 22:29-32).​

The words in red above is in reference to the resurrection of receiving a spiritual body like that of angels (Whereby there is no marriage). The words in blue above is in reference to the flesh and blood body resurrection that takes place in two phases (i.e. One in the Millennium, and the other for the New Earth after the Millennium and the Judgment). Seeing we will be in a different location like on Earth, and we will have flesh and blood bodies again, logic dictates that we could very well marry and have families there.

While I hope you're right because it has never made sense that God created marriage, a good thing, and male and female, only to just be temporary and just throw them away in the new earth and declare that whether you're male, or female, a male God is now your intimate spouse level relationship and that's it. Makes me think why create women and why declare homosexuality an abomination if sex itself is supposed to symbolize our relationship with Christ and, for many of us.. that would be a male-male relationship

BUT.. the scripture itself says in the Resurrection, so.. physical resurrection, no marriage, is the best we've gotten out of scripture, and Paul treats it like we're all being betrothed to the same husband in Jesus Christ. Which leads to THE most uncomfortable subject in Christianity for me. The idea that my desires for intimacy with a female have to be met by a male.

So as far as I know from scripture, these mansions, will be bachelor pads, that really don't have a purpose.
 
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Well, privacy, will we have privacy? I thought part of the tradeoff of there not being marriage was that relationships with EVERYONE would be very intimate, beyond marriage intimacy (that's always the advertisement for how the tradeoff is "better"). Personally, I've thought it's a little bit of a copout, that people say that we'll be "more intimate" even when there is no marriage and no sex, which is as intimate as you can get in this life, to be one flesh, live together, and be a constant companion together, where there (at least shouldn't be) any secrets kept from each other (well outside of maybe keeping secret a present you want to give them), nor really any privacy, they would know everything about you ideally. If relationships in heaven, between everyone, are truly "more intimate" then that'd basically mean no privacy, maybe even to the point of reading minds. Because boy oh boy do people love to claim it'll be more intimate, I say "handshakes and side hugs are not more intimate than sex, they're gestures deliberately designed to limit intimacy" and people say "well we'll be SPIRITUALLY intimate" and I often wonder if they truly know that they want that between each and every person, to know every thought they've had, to delve into their darkest memories and even know of all their sins. Think about this, if it were not sin to have sex with anyone, and there were no disease, and you didn't have to worry about pregnancy, would you just up and have sex with anyone and everyone? Probably not, sexual intimacy is putting yourself in a vulnerable place with someone, we all have limitations on how close we want to be with other people, and that is how God designed it, promiscuity may be promoted to the world today as people make sex to be nothing but a cheap physical thrill, blaspheming what God originally made it to be, but ideally, it brings you to a closeness with someone that takes down all your walls and exposes yourself to that other person, it should only happen with a great amount of trust in that person.
Now if you wouldn't want to be sexually intimate with every single Christian you encountered, would you really want to be spiritually intimate with them beyond a level of sexual intimacy, where you don't just know their body, but you know their spirit, their innermost thoughts, their memories, with no barriers between you, would you really want to have the memory of a Christian who'd been sexually abused as a child as if it were your own memory? Would you really want to know every thought that a former pedophile had before they found Christ? Our own sins are darkness enough than to have to experience what Jesus has experienced in knowing the sins of everyone ever born on earth. So unless we have no memories of what happened on earth while we were alive, some things I think would be best not knowing about other people, and best not shared with others, but kept between Jesus and ourselves, to which we can only say "Thank you for forgiving me for that and for taking my punishment for me, I'm sorry that I did it and caused the one I love most pain He did not deserve"
So.. yeah, I suppose at least from my point of view now, on this earth, in this body, I can see a need for privacy. But in many Christian's theology, there will not be any room for privacy, and I wonder if they themselves realize this.
That said.. do you really think we'll still be reading the bible in eternity when we have Jesus present with us living among us to receive His word directly from Him rather than reading a book that was put pen to paper by human authors (so second hand, yes it's Inspired but just like there are differences between the 3 synoptic gospels, each human being has their own way of using language and in some cases people can interpret things differently, the 3 synoptic gospels don't always quote Jesus word for word), and then translated, and then translated from that translation..... why not just hear from God directly? Not to mention there will be new things that God will say, rather than just the same story we've already read and at that time may already be fulfilled. On the same note, will we pray when we will be able to just... talk with God?



While I hope you're right because it has never made sense that God created marriage, a good thing, and male and female, only to just be temporary and just throw them away in the new earth and declare that whether you're male, or female, a male God is now your intimate spouse level relationship and that's it. Makes me think why create women and why declare homosexuality an abomination if sex itself is supposed to symbolize our relationship with Christ and, for many of us.. that would be a male-male relationship

BUT.. the scripture itself says in the Resurrection, so.. physical resurrection, no marriage, is the best we've gotten out of scripture, and Paul treats it like we're all being betrothed to the same husband in Jesus Christ. Which leads to THE most uncomfortable subject in Christianity for me. The idea that my desires for intimacy with a female have to be met by a male.

So as far as I know from scripture, these mansions, will be bachelor pads, that really don't have a purpose.

You are talking about the problems in how God's kingdom works with mansions even though it says we will receive mansions. I believe my Bible when it says that. You are free not to believe that portion of the Bible if you like because it does not jive with your way of life or thinking.

You are also doubting why God condemned sexual immorality when His Word says so. Again, I believe my Bible when it says that. You also appear to believe that marriage is bad. Yet, God created marriage in the beginning before the fall. Not going to dignify these points with a detailed response (because it is just too silly to do so).
 
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You are talking about the problems in how God's kingdom works with mansions even though it says we will receive mansions. I believe my Bible when it says that. You are free not to believe that portion of the Bible if you like because it does not jive with your way of life or thinking.

You are also doubting why God condemned sexual immorality when His Word says so. Again, I believe my Bible when it says that. You also appear to believe that marriage is bad. Yet, God created marriage in the beginning before the fall. Not going to dignify these points with a detailed response (because it is just too silly to do so).

You're mistaken on all 3 counts
1. I'm not doubting that there are mansions, I'm wondering WHY there are mansions because I don't see much purpose for them. I am also questioning your rationale of privacy, and wondering IF we will have a need for privacy there, I would tend to think we do, but other Christians say we're "spiritually intimate" in which case there would be no possibility of privacy.
2. There are many reasons why sexual immorality is condemned. I was saying that even if it promiscuity were not immoral, that there's a level of trust required that people would not be comfortable with just doing it with anyone. If anything I'm doubting people who claim that in heaven, we will ALL be more intimate with EVERYONE than a husband and wife, and that we will be "spiritually intimate". I'm having my doubts about THAT because some things we just don't want to know about everyone we meet. I'm arguing a point that even if it were totally legal, people wouldn't choose to do it.
3. I have no idea where you'd gather that I thought marriage was bad when I desire it myself and hope you're right that it IS possible on the new earth, even when scripture says it's not. God never says that marriage is bad, and He made it, so it is good, I have no idea why in the resurrection He seems to take away a good thing. It is the thing I most anguish about within Christianity is that Jesus said that marriage is taken away from us. It turns all creation on its head. Think about it. When Jesus answered the Sadducees nobody even thought to say anything back to Jesus on that. They were stunned. They were probably less stunned about how Jesus had proven the resurrection using Exodus alone (which is big because the Sadducees only affirmed the Pentateuch as scripture, they thought that because there was "no mention" of a resurrection in the Pentateuch that there was no resurrection, that when you died that was it, Jesus proved them wrong), and more stunned by the concept that marriage does not exist in eternity, because everyone agrees marriage is a good thing and a good God taking away a good thing in eternity is inscrutable.

People have a need of privacy, and intimacy simultaneously. Marriage is a solution to that, opening yourself to one person for intimacy, while still maintaining privacy from other people,
In the "we'll all be MORE intimate with EVERYONE" people you would have no privacy.
 
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You're mistaken on all 3 counts
1. I'm not doubting that there are mansions, I'm wondering WHY there are mansions because I don't see much purpose for them. I am also questioning your rationale of privacy, and wondering IF we will have a need for privacy there, I would tend to think we do, but other Christians say we're "spiritually intimate" in which case there would be no possibility of privacy.

You said, I quote:
“But I've been thinking about it, and I realize, I don't even know if there's really a point to a "mansion" in heaven.”

By saying that there is no point in having a mansion seems like doubting God's Word to me. God is all wise and He knows better than us. It's obvious that a mansion or home provides privacy from others because that is what homes do today. For did not Jesus say that we are to close our door and pray? Obviously God still wants us to have intimate prayer and worship time with Him alone, too.

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2. There are many reasons why sexual immorality is condemned. I was saying that even if it promiscuity were not immoral, that there's a level of trust required that people would not be comfortable with just doing it with anyone. If anything I'm doubting people who claim that in heaven, we will ALL be more intimate with EVERYONE than a husband and wife, and that we will be "spiritually intimate". I'm having my doubts about THAT because some things we just don't want to know about everyone we meet. I'm arguing a point that even if it were totally legal, people wouldn't choose to do it.

What if's on sexual immorality is never a possiblity in being a what if scenario because God calls it an abomination. Thus, God never intended for things to ever to exist that way under other circumstances or scenarios. So to imagine such a scenario is imagining something that would never be true. In my opinion: To even suggest such a possibility means one is open to the idea that it could not be bad (When it is an abomination in God's sight).

As for intimacy: Well, there is a level of intimacy that does not involve intimate relations (becoming one flesh) between a man and woman in marriage. There is also a mental intimacy between friends of the same gender and most importantly God or our Lord. God knows all things, and to share in His love, peace, joy, and other fruits as we walk with Him and seek more of Him is to draw in closer intimacy with God. I believe this drawing closer to God will be behind closed doors in mansions. A quite time between just between you and God.

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3. I have no idea where you'd gather that I thought marriage was bad when I desire it myself and hope you're right that it IS possible on the new earth, even when scripture says it's not. God never says that marriage is bad, and He made it, so it is good, I have no idea why in the resurrection He seems to take away a good thing. It is the thing I most anguish about within Christianity is that Jesus said that marriage is taken away from us. It turns all creation on its head. Think about it. When Jesus answered the Sadducees nobody even thought to say anything back to Jesus on that. They were stunned. They were probably less stunned about how Jesus had proven the resurrection using Exodus alone (which is big because the Sadducees only affirmed the Pentateuch as scripture, they thought that because there was "no mention" of a resurrection in the Pentateuch that there was no resurrection, that when you died that was it, Jesus proved them wrong), and more stunned by the concept that marriage does not exist in eternity, because everyone agrees marriage is a good thing and a good God taking away a good thing in eternity is inscrutable.

People have a need of privacy, and intimacy simultaneously. Marriage is a solution to that, opening yourself to one person for intimacy, while still maintaining privacy from other people,
In the "we'll all be MORE intimate with EVERYONE" people you would have no privacy.

Sorry. I read your words wrong on marriage. I am glad you are not criticizing marriage in any way.

Anyways, there are two resurrections. An angelic body type resurrection, and a flesh and blood resurrection. So you are confusing the resurrection to Heaven with the resurrection on the New Earth. Again, marriage is taken away for a TEMPORARY time in Heaven. New Jerusalem comes down out of Heaven and lands on the New Earth. Believers who were in Heaven will receive new resurrected flesh and blood bodies (Where they can marry). In Heaven, they were like as the angels and thus they cannot marry (because they are like angels in form). But as I said, this is temporary.

Please see the previous passage again that I showed to you involving Jesus talking about the two different resurrections.

Also, check out my extensive End Times Chronology here:

Pre-Trib Only - My New End Times Chronology
 
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actually for me, that image is what drives my most pessimistic thoughts about eternity that I have, that all we'll do is fall on our faces in front of the throne and sing. If that's all we do that's just another version of hell for me. I get bored of doing things that I like in short amounts of time, and I hate singing, so how fast will I get bored of doing something I hate doing and only do because I'm commanded to?
Youd better get praying and ask for a revelation of what heaven will be like. But ti comes with a warning, it might be a bad experience that leads you to cry out to God for it, it was with me. I didnt know at the time but I have an allergy that causes me to get depression among other things. I was suffering reallly badly so kept praying and asking God to show me what heaven would be like so I know what I have got to look forward to.

Its not so much singing as being in the overwhelming holy presence of God and His and not being able but to help yourself but to cry out in praise and worship. Think of the most overwhelmed you have ever been with love and/or wth the sense of the presence of God. That pales into insignificance with what I experienced, just a fleeting moment of what it will feel like in heaven and I know it was very veiled and weakened, yet I could not help but cry out "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come". It just came out and then the moment passed.
 
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