What Christians think about Trump?

I was initially strongly opposed to Trump being president because of certain things. But after he was made president, I had no choice but to respect who God put into power. Remember, God used the Assyrians for his purposes. God used the Assyrians to rebuke Israel.

Anyways, even if there are things I disagree about our president, he does support more (not all) Christian principles than democrats. Trump is not looking to open the floodgates of abortion. He has sought to protect prayer in schools. He even promotes Christianity many times. At least his vice president was praying, and endorsing prayer publicly for our nation. Granted, it looks like Biden will probably win the presidency, but we will not know for sure what will happen until after the election and the dust settles. The most important thing we can do is not look to a political leader, but we should look to Jesus to lead our lives. What the rest of the world does is on them. We can pray for them, and do good towards them, but to be all worked up on a worldly system is not beneficial. This world is perishing and it will be destroyed when Christ returns.

Jermayn said:

It's a good thing you weren't there when Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". That prostitute wouldn't have stood a chance.

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you guys make me laugh!!! ALL that I have said about Trump is TRUE, I have NOT said anywhere that he should be punished for this, or jailed, or the like. Some people are more interested in a "leader" who might "please" them, even though this "leaders" disregard the Word of God by their own words and actions!!! Your quoting from John's Gospel here is MOOT!

ovis90 said:

I am just interested to see what Christians think about Trump? I see so many posts in Trump forums Trump walking along with Jesus in a way i see it as a cult although i do support him because he is against liberals.

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Christians don't have to get in the weeds trying to understand ever aspect about Trump. The real question is does the policies he put forth more so align themselves with allowing the body of Christ liberty and freedom to exist and express themselves YES or NO? I think the answer to that is YES. Does he stand against liberals and their political philosophy? You even seem to think so as do I. That's enough reason right there.

But do honestly most you believe he will save America and he is choosen one?

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Depends on what you mean chosen one. Many see that term and and begin rolling out what they consider his moral life has been. Or is even now. They're thinking chosen one means a great spiritual leader and it doesn't have to mean that at all. Some people even from a secular standpoint God might orchestrate to have a certain destiny to achieve certain ends for such a time as this.

I remember there was this video where Trump said if he ever goes to become a president he will go through the republican party because they are so dumb..

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Sure. And he's talked about things like that. When in NY as a businessman he went along to get along with those in his circles. Let's face it you get all the good press by being a liberal especially in NY. Apparently those things didn't reflect his true convictions and he made a break with those things when he ran for President.

So where is the truth is he really choosen one? or he is just with Illuminati and pretend to be with the people. My self i am still trying to figure out.

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Again stop thinking chosen one as some spiritual leader if that's what you're doing. Chosen to bring about a certain end result in government which in turn can effect the spiritual freedoms people have maybe. Trump pretending to be with the people? Well if that were true wouldn't you know that by now? It has been four years so what's there to figure out?

Bible Highlighter said:

But after he was made president, I had no choice but to respect who God put into power

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really? and the Bible texts that say this? Just because the Lord does use many leaders, for His purposes, does NOT in any way even suggest that He put them in power, or agrees with, what these leaders do. God is ALL Sovereign, which means that He, and He ALONE has UNLIMITED Power, to do has HE Pleases. And He will and does use ANYONE to do this, as He did with Judas!

Bobber said:

Does he stand against liberals and their political philosophy? You even seem to think so as do I. That's enough reason right there

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how about this very public support for homosexuals? Is this in line with the Teachings of the Bible? Should Christians voting, simply ignore this?

Charlie24 said:

Being a Christian, how many times a week do you pray for him?

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Hi charlie,

Does whether or not one prays for someone have a bearing on 'who' that person that they are praying for is, as to their nature and activities? If I pray for an alcoholic friend, does that mean that I shouldn't see him as an alcoholic. If I pray for my crack addict child, does that mean my child is no longer a crack addict and if someone were to ask me about my child I should not let on that I know they are a crack addict?

In other words, it's your position that if you're praying for someone, you shouldn't be honest about the kind of person that they are?

God bless,
Ted

miamited said:

Hi charlie,

Does whether or not one prays for someone have a bearing on 'who' that person that they are praying for is, as to their nature and activities? If I pray for an alcoholic friend, does that mean that I shouldn't see him as an alcoholic. If I pray for my crack addict child, does that mean my child is no longer a crack addict and if someone were to ask me about my child I should not let on that I know they are a crack addict?

In other words, it's your position that if you're praying for someone, you shouldn't be honest about the kind of person that they are?

God bless,
Ted

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very well put, Sir!

Bible Highlighter said:

I was initially strongly opposed to Trump being president because of his bad behavior and lack of intelligence and lack of self sacrifice, and lack of self control (Which can still be seen even in the recent presidential debate between him and Biden). But after he was made president, I had no choice but to respect who God put into power. Remember, God used the Assyrians for his purposes. God used the Assyrians to rebuke Israel.

Anyways, even if Trump does not act like a Christian in any sense fo the word, he does support more (not all) Christian principles than democrats. Trump is not looking to open the floodgates of abortion. He has sought to protect prayer in schools. He even promotes Christianity many times even though he is not living the Christian life himself. At least his vice president was praying, and endorsing prayer publicly for our nation. Granted, it looks like Biden will probably win the presidency, but we will not know for sure what will happen until after the election and the dust settles.

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As for me I think I see God's spiritual fingerprints on certain things that have happened which leads me to believe Trump will win the Presidency again. Could be wrong about this....don't think so though. We'll see.

Bobber said:

As for me I think I see God's spiritual fingerprints on certain things that have happened which leads me to believe Trump will win the Presidency again

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does this mean, that if Trump were to lose, then God somehow failed, as according to you, His "fingerprints" are on Trump?

Bond-servant of Christ said:

really? and the Bible texts that say this? Just because the Lord does use many leaders, for His purposes, does NOT in any way even suggest that He put them in power, or agrees with, what these leaders do. God is ALL Sovereign, which means that He, and He ALONE has UNLIMITED Power, to do has HE Pleases. And He will and does use ANYONE to do this, as He did with Judas!

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“Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.” (1 Peter 2:17).

While Trump is not a king, he is similiar in power that he is the leader of our nation.

Acts of the Apostles 23:5 says,
“Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.”

Again, while this was in context to a high priest, this was a person who was of the Old Covenant system that passed away and who rejected Jesus Christ. So the high priest was an unbelieving ruler. This means we should not speak evil of any of our unbelieving rulers today. I may dislike things about our President, but I am not going to speak entirely evil of our leader out of obedience to God's Word.

Bond-servant of Christ said:

how can you say that, when he openly supports homosexuals, which is very much opposed to in the Bible?

https://gt.usembassy.gov/statement-by-the-president-donald-trump-to-celebrate-lgbt-pride-month/

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I already said it...

Besides, even if he did acknowledge homosexuality that doesn't mean he's anti-christian, nor does it mean he agrees with such sexually immoral behaviours.

If I said I love homosexual people, does that mean I approve gay sex? No.

Likewise, if I said I hate Islam as a religion, does that mean that I hate all Muslims? No.

Logic

Hi bobber,

Hope you don't mind my jumping in here:

Bobber said:

The real question is does the policies he put forth more so align themselves with allowing the body of Christ liberty and freedom to exist and express themselves YES or NO? I think the answer to that is YES. Does he stand against liberals and their political philosophy? You even seem to think so as do I. That's enough reason right there.

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As to christian values, Mr. Biden reflects greater christian values than Mr. Trump does. Mr. Biden has been a life long follower through the Catholic faith fellowship of believers. Looking at the past lives of both men, I see that Mr. Biden has allowed the body of Christ liberty and freedom to exist and express themselves more so than Mr. Trump.

As for standing against liberals and their political philosophy, do you have some proof that God stands against all liberals and their political philosophies? God's command is that we love one another. That we care for one another. When God says that, I don't think He's limiting the 'one another' to only the people of a particular nation. I think God sees the whole world of people as the 'one another'. Mr. Trump, on the other hand, is preaching and practicing this America first agenda, and quite frankly, I doubt that God agrees with that agenda, especially when it is used to sow hate and distrust among all the peoples of the earth.

I think you may be surprised to find that God may see Mr. Trump in his true nature and He may actually describe that nature much as Mr. Trump's detractors do. I think God has enough evidence to support that Mr. Trump is a liar. I certainly think that God has enough evidence to support that Mr. Trump is a fornicator. Would you deny that truth?

God bless,
Ted

miamited said:

In other words, it's your position that if you're praying for someone, you shouldn't be honest about the kind of person that they are?

God bless,
Ted

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And if you're wrong about certain accusations you might make....what are you guilty of?

Bible Highlighter said:

“Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.” (1 Peter 2:17).

While Trump is not a king, he is similiar in power that he is the leader of our nation.

Acts of the Apostles 23:5 says,
“Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.”

Again, while this was in context to a high priest, this was a person who was of the Old Covenant system that passed away and who rejected Jesus Christ. So the high priest was an unbelieving ruler. This means we should not speak evil of any of our unbelieving rulers today. I may dislike things about our President, but I am not going to speak entirely evil of them out of obedience to God's Word.

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no need to go over-the-top on this! I am pointing out facts about Trump that are fully known to ALL (except for some of his blinded followers), which, if I lived in the USA, would stop me from voting for him, as I did here in England, with Boris Johnson, who is a DISGRACE to humans with his OPEN IMMORAL living!!! He is the first PM here to live at Number 10 in open ADULTERY. Some Americans rather foolishly see Trump as some sort of "Saviour"! His moral conduct (or, lack of it) should make Christians NOT vote for him.

miamited said:

Hi charlie,

Does whether or not one prays for someone have a bearing on 'who' that person that they are praying for is, as to their nature and activities? If I pray for an alcoholic friend, does that mean that I shouldn't see him as an alcoholic. If I pray for my crack addict child, does that mean my child is no longer a crack addict and if someone were to ask me about my child I should not let on that I know they are a crack addict?

In other words, it's your position that if you're praying for someone, you shouldn't be honest about the kind of person that they are?

God bless,
Ted

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No, that's not my position at all!

My position is that every one of us has skeletons hanging in the closet. Most of us are lucky that our closet is not publicized 24/7.

The problem is that politics has derailed the Christianity of many. I'm as guilty as the next.

At the risk of being to religious, I'm saying we should look in our own closet before pointing fingers.

Bond-servant of Christ said:

a cheat, womaniser, liar, fraud, pretender, failed "leader" etc, are some of the words that come to mind

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I think the simple fact is that Character is no longer of import to many Americans. The Founders stressed such character and virtue in both leadership and the people, obviously this noble experiment is failing.

When one jettisons character and virtue with the "policy" ploy it only highlights how well pandering and tickling ears has become effective. One has to wonder exactly what policies?

Anyone who has taken some time to view trump in terms of his business experience and personal history, then in present terms of rhetoric, actions, and behavior will conclude that many Americans find "virtue" in facades ... "tell me what I want to hear" mentality!

Bond-servant of Christ said:

no need to go over-the-top on this! I am pointing out facts about Trump that are fully known to ALL (except for some of his blinded followers), which, if I lived in the USA, would stop me from voting for him, as I did here in England, with Boris Johnson, who is a DISGRACE to humans with his OPEN IMMORAL living!!! He is the first PM here to live at Number 10 in open ADULTERY. Some Americans rather foolishly see Trump as some sort of "Saviour"! His moral conduct (or, lack of it) should make Christians NOT vote for him.

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People who aren't religious don't think about their actions as transgressing God's law. I know I didn't before I became a Christian. I knew my actions were wrong in a worldly sense and even had a weird deeper feeling but I don't remember considering God much when I sinned. What I'm saying is, why are you expecting President Trump or Boris Johnson to act pious?

hluke said:

Logic

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more like ILLOGIC!!!

There is a DIFFERENCE between "loving" people regardless of what they are, or do, as God's love for sinners; and openly "supporting" SINFUL actions that are AGAINST the Holy Bible. Just say that you support Trump, without the need to "justify" is from Christianity!

Bond-servant of Christ said:

you guys make me laugh!!! ALL that I have said about Trump is TRUE, I have NOT said anywhere that he should be punished for this, or jailed, or the like. Some people are more interested in a "leader" who might "please" them, even though this "leaders" disregard the Word of God by their own words and actions!!! Your quoting from John's Gospel here is MOOT!

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I'm glad I could at least provide you with a good laugh. I know all of us other lowly Christians with different views than you don't have much else to offer, but we were just recommending that maybe you not hold others past against them, especially if you have absolutely no incite into their current personal lives. I'm sure someone of your great stature and wisdom rubs shoulders with all the world leaders though, so carry on.

miamited said:

As to christian values, Mr. Biden reflects greater christian values than Mr. Trump does.

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Policy evidence please.