who is he?

visionary · Sep 1, 2020

Acts 7:38
This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Wellllllll a clue is in the verse before it...

37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

We can all agree that the "prophet" spoken in this verse is none other than Yeshua. so I ask you, was Yeshua on Mount Sinai who received the lively oracles from His Father to give to Moses?

Johan_1988 · Sep 1, 2020

Hi, my answer is ,no. Yeshua was only present. Read carefully:

and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

They were given to the 12 tribes of Israel whom were their fathers or ancestors.

eleos1954 · Sep 1, 2020

visionary said:
Acts 7:38
This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Wellllllll a clue is in the verse before it...

37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

We can all agree that the "prophet" spoken in this verse is none other than Yeshua. so I ask you, was Yeshua on Mount Sinai who received the lively oracles from His Father to give to Moses?

Jesus was the one in the burning bush. A prophet ... like unto me (Moses) is prophetic of when Jesus would come in the flesh in the future.

"like me"

Moses is such a wonderful type and picture of Christ. His life and ministry foreshadows Jesus in many ways. However One even greater than Moses is here now, in the Person of Jesus Christ. Let’s see how:

Moses was hidden away in Egypt as a baby for his own protection when Pharaoh decreed that all Hebrew baby boys were to be killed.
Jesus was hidden away in Egypt as a baby for his own protection when Herod sought to kill Him.

Moses, willingly left his royal home and high position in Pharaoh’s palace for the sake of his people.
Jesus, the royal Son of God, willingly left the glory of heaven to come to earth for the sake of His people.

Moses was the deliverer of Israel out of the bondage and slavery of Egypt. He redeemed the Israelites from their hard-taskmasters with the blood of the Passover lamb.
Jesus is the deliverer of not only Israel but also of the Gentiles. He has delivered us from our bondage and slavery to sin. He has redeemed us from our hard-taskmaster (Satan) with His very own blood.
“Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!” John 1:29

Moses interceded for the Israelites when they corrupted themselves and worshipped a golden calf. In Exodus 32:32 Moses offered his own life on behalf of the people. Such was his love for them that he was prepared to take their guilt upon himself and to die for them.
Jesus interceded for the whole of humankind, utterly corrupted and gone astray as we were. Jesus actually did lay down His life on behalf of humankind. Such is His love for us that He did take our sin and guilt upon Himself and was offered to God in our place.

Moses was mediator of the Old Covenant of Law.
Jesus Christ is mediator of the New Covenant of Grace.
“For the law was given through Moses but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.” John 1:17

GedaliahMaegil · Sep 1, 2020

I find that a lot of people in conventional religious circles tend to proclaim precisely where and how HaShem can be made manifest, as if they have the authourity to do so.

The One Who appeared as Messiah Yeshua Is also the One Who Was in the bush, and He Is the One Who met Yehoshua before the battle of Yericho, and He Is the One Who visited Avraham at his tent, and Who walked with Adam in Gan Eden, and Who Is the still, small voice that Eliyah witnessed. There are more examples, but, to put it in short, HaShem shows Himself as He desires, not as we desire.

"Why do the nations say, 'Where now is their Elohim?' But Eloheinu is in the heavens; all that He desires He does." - Tehillah (Psalm) 115:2-3

HARK! · Sep 1, 2020

Johan_1988 said:
Hi, my answer is ,no. Yeshua was only present. Read carefully:

and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

They were given to the 12 tribes of Israel whom were their fathers or ancestors.

I'm reading carefully.

Question:

Why does it say "give unto us?"

eleos1954 · Sep 1, 2020

HARK! said:
I'm reading carefully.

Question:

Why does it say "give unto us?"

37This is the same Moses who told the Israelites, ‘God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your brothers.’k 38He was in the assembly in the wilderness with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers. And he received living words to pass on to us (followers of Christ).

Dkh587 · Sep 1, 2020

The “he” is Moses, no?

Acts 7:35-38

This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge? the same did God send to be a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush.

He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years.

This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall Yahweh your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sinai, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us

pinacled · Sep 1, 2020

Dkh587 said:
The “he” is Moses, no?

Acts 7:35-38

The answer to your question is, No.
Context of time is a key.
Moshe did not enter the Land to dispossess.

Who is The Holy One that washes with Fire?

יג תָּמִים תִּהְיֶה, עִם יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ.
13 Thou shalt be whole-hearted with the LORD thy God.
יד כִּי הַגּוֹיִם הָאֵלֶּה, אֲשֶׁר אַתָּה יוֹרֵשׁ אוֹתָם--אֶל-מְעֹנְנִים וְאֶל-קֹסְמִים, יִשְׁמָעוּ; וְאַתָּה--לֹא כֵן, נָתַן לְךָ יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ.
14 For these nations, that thou art to dispossess, hearken unto soothsayers, and unto diviners; but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
טו נָבִיא מִקִּרְבְּךָ מֵאַחֶיךָ כָּמֹנִי, יָקִים לְךָ יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ: אֵלָיו, תִּשְׁמָעוּן.
15 A prophet will the LORD thy God raise up unto thee, from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
טז כְּכֹל אֲשֶׁר-שָׁאַלְתָּ מֵעִם יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, בְּחֹרֵב, בְּיוֹם הַקָּהָל, לֵאמֹר: לֹא אֹסֵף, לִשְׁמֹעַ אֶת-קוֹל יְהוָה אֱלֹהָי, וְאֶת-הָאֵשׁ הַגְּדֹלָה הַזֹּאת לֹא-אֶרְאֶה עוֹד, וְלֹא אָמוּת.
16 according to all that thou didst desire of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying: 'Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.'

Dkh587 · Sep 1, 2020

pinacled said:
The answer to your question is, No.
Context of time is a key.
Moshe did not enter the Land to dispossess.

Who is The Holy One that washes with Fire?

יג תָּמִים תִּהְיֶה, עִם יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ.
13 Thou shalt be whole-hearted with the LORD thy God.
יד כִּי הַגּוֹיִם הָאֵלֶּה, אֲשֶׁר אַתָּה יוֹרֵשׁ אוֹתָם--אֶל-מְעֹנְנִים וְאֶל-קֹסְמִים, יִשְׁמָעוּ; וְאַתָּה--לֹא כֵן, נָתַן לְךָ יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ.
14 For these nations, that thou art to dispossess, hearken unto soothsayers, and unto diviners; but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
טו נָבִיא מִקִּרְבְּךָ מֵאַחֶיךָ כָּמֹנִי, יָקִים לְךָ יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ: אֵלָיו, תִּשְׁמָעוּן.
15 A prophet will the LORD thy God raise up unto thee, from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
טז כְּכֹל אֲשֶׁר-שָׁאַלְתָּ מֵעִם יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, בְּחֹרֵב, בְּיוֹם הַקָּהָל, לֵאמֹר: לֹא אֹסֵף, לִשְׁמֹעַ אֶת-קוֹל יְהוָה אֱלֹהָי, וְאֶת-הָאֵשׁ הַגְּדֹלָה הַזֹּאת לֹא-אֶרְאֶה עוֹד, וְלֹא אָמוּת.
16 according to all that thou didst desire of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying: 'Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.'

Nothing I quoted mentions anything about entering the land.

pinacled · Sep 1, 2020

Dkh587 said:
Nothing I quoted mentions anything about entering the land.

Supposing then that you've accepted the cornerstone prophet likened to Moshe.

What then do you have to say about Yeshua and the Lively stones that follow.

Is Moshe the "he" as you implied?

pinacled · Sep 1, 2020

GedaliahMaegil said:
I find that a lot of people in conventional religious circles tend to proclaim precisely where and how HaShem can be made manifest, as if they have the authourity to do so.

The One Who appeared as Messiah Yeshua Is also the One Who Was in the bush, and He Is the One Who met Yehoshua before the battle of Yericho, and He Is the One Who visited Avraham at his tent, and Who walked with Adam in Gan Eden, and Who Is the still, small voice that Eliyah witnessed. There are more examples, but, to put it in short, HaShem shows Himself as He desires, not as we desire.

Do you believe Yeshua is what you stated in the brackets below.
Or are you implying that such beliefs are empty of Faith?

[ "The One Who appeared as Messiah Yeshua Is also the One Who Was in the bush, and He Is the One Who met Yehoshua before the battle of Yericho, and He Is the One Who visited Avraham at his tent, and Who walked with Adam in Gan Eden, and Who Is the still, small voice that Eliyah witnessed. There are more examples, but, to put it in short, HaShem shows Himself as He desires, not as we desire."]

pinacled · Sep 3, 2020

visionary said:
Acts 7:38
This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Wellllllll a clue is in the verse before it...

37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

We can all agree that the "prophet" spoken in this verse is none other than Yeshua. so I ask you, was Yeshua on Mount Sinai who received the lively oracles from His Father to give to Moses?

The 'Foundation laid at the beginning of creation that chose a people and was with them during their traverse times as a 'Rock of Salvation".
Provided water with his own hands regardless of doubt.

Nourished the souls of the council on every fatefull yom while the elders supp with he.

Blessed be The Holy One

Laureate · Sep 29, 2020

visionary said:
Acts 7:38
This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Wellllllll a clue is in the verse before it...

37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

We can all agree that the "prophet" spoken in this verse is none other than Yeshua. so I ask you, was Yeshua on Mount Sinai who received the lively oracles from His Father to give to Moses?

In what we perceive to be two separate sentences, or clauses, Biblical Hebrew often presents overlapping particles that are equally applicable in both of the sentences, or clauses, and that is what I see here in the case of '.....he....'

In one sense it is referring to Môsʰé (simply replace the ....he... with the name Môsʰé, and the text reads intelligiblly, and contextually proper.

However ....he.... may also be applied to the Rock and Consuming Fire who called Môsʰé up into the Mountain, for this same Rock (who is פלא Péléʰ in our eyes), also dwelt in the congregation among the children of Îsʰrəél as Yahushua (the son of Nun, of the birthright Apʰrîyém).

Due to their Fear, Môsʰé was instructed to bring No Man with him when he entered into the Mount, yet Yahushua (his attendant) entered with him.

I first became suspicious when I read two men entered the tent of meeting, and only one came out with his face shining, which poses the question, What (or Who) was in the tent, that would make the face of Môsʰé shine?

Yahushua (like a pillar) would remain in the tent, when Môsʰé exited and appeared to the children of Îsʰrəél with his face glowing.

Yahushua was not only the one who brought the children of Îsʰrəél into the Promised land, he was one of the two faithful Witnesses that spied it out prior thereto.

Notwithstanding, when Yahushua recounted the events of the reconnaissance, only Caleb was counted as a faithful Witness, here again, Yahushua is counted as if he were, No Man.

Thus to the novice ....he.... (in this context) may read, Môsʰé, and to the seasoned disciple, both Môsʰé and (the Rock) Yahushua are being referenced, each in their own applicable context.

• Because all those men which have seen my Glory, and my Miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not listened to my Voice;

Surely they shall not see the land which I promised unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:

But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it. [ref., Numbers 14:22-24]

Keep in mind, Yᵊsʰûʷəʰ is not only the Kingdom Come, he is the Kingdom of David, i.e., Mt. Zion.

• Blessed be the Kingdom of our father David, who comes in the Name of Yᵊhûʷəh: Hosanna [< הושנה > ש Blessed is נה the one who הוה Comes] in the highest. [ref., Mark 11:10]

In the following passage Paul is saying, the Kingdom Come (Zion) who once appeared to the children of Îsʰrəél as a Rock and Consuming Fire, is now appearing as a (less intimidating) Man, because his Glory was too much for them to bear.

• For you have not come unto the Mount that might be touched, and that Burned with Fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

And the sound of a trumpet, and the Voice of words; which Voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:

(For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the Mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:

And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake

But you have come unto Mount Sion, and unto the city of the living Alôʷəʰ, the heavenly Yerusalem, and to an innumerable company of Angels,

To the general assembly and congregation of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to Alôʰhéyîm the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

And to Yᵊsʰûʷəʰ the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaks better things than that of Abel.

See that you refuse not him that speaks. For if they escaped not who refused him that spoke on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaks from heaven: [ref., Hebrew 12:18-25]

Though Paul says, you have not Come unto the Mount Burning with Fire, they actually did, notwithstanding, Paul said what he said, because the Mount did not Come as an intimidating Mount Burning with Fire, but appeared unto them as a less intimidating Man filled with Rûʷəkʰ H'kôʷdésʰ.

visionary · Oct 2, 2020

Laureate said:
In what we perceive to be two separate sentences, or clauses, Biblical Hebrew often presents overlapping particles that are equally applicable in both of the sentences, or clauses, and that is what I see here in the case of '.....he....'

In one sense it is referring to Môsʰé (simply replace the ....he... with the name Môsʰé, and the text reads intelligiblly, and contextually proper.

However ....he.... may also be applied to the Rock and Consuming Fire who called Môsʰé up into the Mountain, for this same Rock (who is פלא Péléʰ in our eyes), also dwelt in the congregation among the children of Îsʰrəél as Yahushua (the son of Nun, of the birthright Apʰrîyém).

Due to their Fear, Môsʰé was instructed to bring No Man with him when he entered into the Mount, yet Yahushua (his attendant) entered with him.

I first became suspicious when I read two men entered the tent of meeting, and only one came out with his face shining, which poses the question, What (or Who) was in the tent, that would make the face of Môsʰé shine?

Yahushua (like a pillar) would remain in the tent, when Môsʰé exited and appeared to the children of Îsʰrəél with his face glowing.

Yahushua was not only the one who brought the children of Îsʰrəél into the Promised land, he was one of the two faithful Witnesses that spied it out prior thereto.

Notwithstanding, when Yahushua recounted the events of the reconnaissance, only Caleb was counted as a faithful Witness, here again, Yahushua is counted as if he were, No Man.

Thus to the novice ....he.... (in this context) may read, Môsʰé, and to the seasoned disciple, both Môsʰé and (the Rock) Yahushua are being referenced, each in their own applicable context.

• Because all those men which have seen my Glory, and my Miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not listened to my Voice;

Surely they shall not see the land which I promised unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:

But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it. [ref., Numbers 14:22-24]

Keep in mind, Yᵊsʰûʷəʰ is not only the Kingdom Come, he is the Kingdom of David, i.e., Mt. Zion.

• Blessed be the Kingdom of our father David, who comes in the Name of Yᵊhûʷəh: Hosanna [< הושנה > ש Blessed is נה the one who הוה Comes] in the highest. [ref., Mark 11:10]

In the following passage Paul is saying, the Kingdom Come (Zion) who once appeared to the children of Îsʰrəél as a Rock and Consuming Fire, is now appearing as a (less intimidating) Man, because his Glory was too much for them to bear.

• For you have not come unto the Mount that might be touched, and that Burned with Fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

And the sound of a trumpet, and the Voice of words; which Voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:

(For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the Mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:

And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake

But you have come unto Mount Sion, and unto the city of the living Alôʷəʰ, the heavenly Yerusalem, and to an innumerable company of Angels,

To the general assembly and congregation of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to Alôʰhéyîm the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

And to Yᵊsʰûʷəʰ the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaks better things than that of Abel.

See that you refuse not him that speaks. For if they escaped not who refused him that spoke on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaks from heaven: [ref., Hebrew 12:18-25]

Though Paul says, you have not Come unto the Mount Burning with Fire, they actually did, notwithstanding, Paul said what he said, because the Mount did not Come as an intimidating Mount Burning with Fire, but appeared unto them as a less intimidating Man filled with Rûʷəkʰ H'kôʷdésʰ.

I agree.

AbbaLove · Oct 2, 2020

visionary said:
... so I ask you, was Yeshua on Mount Sinai who received the lively oracles from His Father to give to Moses?

Is there any indication that Moshe talked face-to-face with the Lord on Mount Sinai as he did in the wilderness ... Exodus 33:11

As far as verse 38 the editors of both the NASB and NKJB chose not to capitalize "he" which suggests the reference is to Moshe. The NKJV and NASB are two translations that capitalize His personal pronouns; however, the editors chose not to Capitalize "he" and "one" in these translations suggesting as with all Bible translations that favor "he" as referring to Moshe and not Yeshua (Adonai).

Acts 7:38 (NKJV)
This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, the one who received the living oracles to give to us,
Acts 7:38 (NASB)
This is the one who was in the congregation in the wilderness together with the angel who was speaking to him on Mount Sinai, and who was with our fathers; and he received living oracles to pass on to you.
Acts 7:38 (AMPC)
This is he who in the assembly in the wilderness (desert) was the go-between for the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai and our forefathers, and he received living oracles (words that still live) to be handed down to us.
Acts 7:38 (TPT)
Moses led the congregation in the wilderness and he spoke face-to-face with the angel who spoke with him on the top of Mount Sinai. Along with our ancestors, he received the living oracles of God that were passed down to us.
Acts 7:38 (NLT)
Moses was with our ancestors, the assembly of God’s people in the wilderness, when the angel spoke to him at Mount Sinai. And there Moses received life-giving words to pass on to us.
Acts 7:38 (NIV)
He was in the assembly in the wilderness, with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our ancestors; and he received living words to pass on to us.

Bible scholars agree it was the Angel of the Lord that spoke to Moshe on Mt Sinai, not Yeshua.

Do you see the parallel between what was "abiding news" on two tablets of stone and the "abiding news" on the two heart-felt tablets of a born again spirit and a renewed mind ?

With "our fathers" (or "our ancestors") is a reference to those that entered the "Promised Land" having received "abiding news" (aka "living oracles") via Moshe. The "living oracles" includes this Torah instruction ... "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind' and 'Your neighbor as yourself." (Deuteronomy 6:5, Deuteronomy 10:12, Deuteronomy 30:6, Leviticus 19:18, Matthew 7:24-27, Matthew 22:36-40, Luke 10:27, Luke 24:25-27, John 15:10-14)

AbbaLove · Oct 3, 2020

visionary said:
Acts 7:38
... so I ask you, was Yeshua on Mount Sinai who received the lively oracles from His Father to give to Moses?

Does a Messianic Rabbinic commentary exist that identifies "he" (verse 38) as being Yeshua/Jesus instead of Moshe ?

The follow verses from Acts 7 (Stephens speech) are from a Messianic Bible (ONMB "Revealing Jewish Roots and Power") that Capitalizes the Lord's personal pronouns such as "He" and "One" and "he" and "one" to distinguish between when Stephen is referring to the LORD and when Stephen is referring to Moshe.

Acts 7:35, 38, 44 (ONMB)
35 This Moses, whom they rejected when they said, 'Who appointed you leader and judge?' God has also sent this leader and redeemer accompanied by the hand of the angel of the One Who was seen by him in the bush.
38 This is the one who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, who took living words to give to us.
44 "Our fathers had the Tabernacle of the Testimony in the desert, just as the One Who spoke to Moses ordained to make it, according to the pattern which he had seen (Exodus 27:21).

It's not like visionary to have cited the following KJV translation of verse 38 with "church" instead of a translation using "congregation" or "assembly".

Acts 7:38 (KJV)
This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

"he" and "him" are one and the same person in KJV, verse 38. Visionary is over-reading Stephen's inspired words. "This is he" (KJV verse 38) is a reference to the same "This Moses" (KJV, verse 35) and "This is that Moses" (KJV, verse 37).

... HOWEVER ...

Exodus 33:11 (ESV)
Thus the LORD used to speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend.
Exodus 34:1-2 (ESV)
The LORD said to Moses, “Cut for yourself two tablets of stone like the first, and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke. Be ready by the morning, and come up in the morning to Mount Sinai, and present yourself there to me on the top of the mountain.

Is there any Messianic Rabbinic commentary that supports the belief that Moshe not only heard the voice of the LORD, but also saw the physical manifestation of the LORD (Yeshua) on Mount Sinai ?

Victor in Christ · Oct 4, 2020

None other than Christ/God, the Shekinah Glory, who dwelt and appeared to the Israelites in the OT and believers in the NT in many forms through (a theophany, a voice, a dream, prophets, signs, the Holy Spirit, visions, scripture, Christ as the Godman, the church/congregation)......and dwells with us now as believers united together through Christ.

Is Mount Sinai the same mountain as Mount Horeb?

visionary · Oct 5, 2020

Mount Horeb (Hebrew: חֹרֵב; Greek in the Septuagint: Χωρήβ; Latin in the Vulgate: Horeb) is the mountain at which the Book of Deuteronomy in the Hebrew Bible states that the Ten Commandments were given to Moses. Mount Sinai, traditionally known as Jabal Musa, is a mountain in the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt that is a possible location of the biblical Mount Sinai, the place where Moses is said to have received the Ten Commandments.

Victor in Christ · Oct 5, 2020

visionary said:
Mount Horeb (Hebrew: חֹרֵב; Greek in the Septuagint: Χωρήβ; Latin in the Vulgate: Horeb) is the mountain at which the Book of Deuteronomy in the Hebrew Bible states that the Ten Commandments were given to Moses. Mount Sinai, traditionally known as Jabal Musa, is a mountain in the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt that is a possible location of the biblical Mount Sinai, the place where Moses is said to have received the Ten Commandments.

Its an interesting study. On a map, Mount Horeb in Saudi Arabia seems to be the more likely location as its in the Midian region and East of Egypt and beyond the red sea. I must be careful not to put over enthesis on literal locations because growing spiritually is very important to the Lord while being practical in our growth. Jeremiah 31:32-33 instructs us to put the law into our hearts. Ezekiel 36:26-27 also.

In the bible, there are different books which mention Horeb and Sinai, but it is interesting that Paul when converted and baptised by the Holy Spirit went to Arabia.

AbbaLove · Oct 6, 2020

Victor in Christ said:
Is Mount Sinai the same mountain as Mount Horeb?

"As far as the overarching narrative in the Hebrew bible is concerned, Mount Sinai and Mount Horeb are the same mountain; they each identify the location where God formed his covenant with Israel after their escape from Egypt. Yet, the two names come from alternate exodus traditions, which were weaved together by the editorial process which produced 'the Torah'." ...

Psalms 106:19
19 They made a calf in Horeb, And worshiped the molded image. (NKJV, 1982)
Exodus 31:18
18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God. (NKJV, 1982)

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